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Do Only Suckers Buy EVs?

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 3/14/2024 6:47:56 AM

The latest evidence that electric vehicles are nothing more than environmental snake oil can be found in a recent Wall Street Journal article pointing out that these “clean” cars are actually more polluting than their gasoline-powered brethren. By polluting, we mean actual pollution, not carbon dioxide emissions – which is not pollution but plant food. The Journal was highlighting a study from 2022 that, naturally, was ignored by the mainstream press at the time. What the study found was that “brakes and tires on EVs release 1,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes.” Why? Because EVs are as much as 30% heavier than gas-powered cars, which means

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 3/14/2024 6:55:38 AM (No. 1677263)
The increased weight of EVs makes current parking garages able to accommodate fewer cars. Newer garages will require more concrete and steel.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: TCloud 3/14/2024 7:03:49 AM (No. 1677267)
Used 1979 Ford Pinto or new EV?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bpl40 3/14/2024 7:18:07 AM (No. 1677276)
Best car in the world is the one which has no monthly payments. EVs are nonstarters.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bur Oak 3/14/2024 7:30:14 AM (No. 1677281)
I have no problems with anyone owning a battery car if they wish. My only complaint is that I am forced to subsidize the buyer by direct payments and having to pay for road maintenance through taxes while they do not.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 3/14/2024 7:33:50 AM (No. 1677289)
It is not unlike everyone wanting to wear go-go boots in my day, and Doc Martin's 30 years later. People who buy them want to look cool to their liberal friends.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley 3/14/2024 7:35:45 AM (No. 1677292)
For those that want one, the option is there. Thats the free market and is as it should be. Where it becomes insidious is when government get involved with tax breaks and subsidies. New technology often doesn't work out too well. Look at quadraphonic stereo, Blu-ray, betamax, the dardick, and a thousand other ideas that didnt take off. In a free market the cream rises to the top and the sludge falls. As long as government stays out.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 3/14/2024 8:25:04 AM (No. 1677340)
Suckers and those who want others to see them on the cutting edge of fashion and eliteness. These types of people are not capable of seeing things through for the failure that they are in the practical long run. Freedom and the tax dollars of others allow them to drive what they want to but lack of scientific and engineering knowledge is what prompts them to open their wallets extra wide and be ready to stand in lines for hours just to keep the charade going.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jimincalif 3/14/2024 8:36:52 AM (No. 1677353)
No, they’re not all suckers, many are early adopters and just enjoy new gadgets. I have a friend who is on his second Tesla. He’s retired, can charge it at home, being in California he has a bunch of solar panels, his wife has an ICE car, and he has always been fascinated by new stuff. He even taught himself computer programming in the late 70s. And Teslas are a blast to drive and their tech stuff can be a lot of fun. He represents the niche market they appeal to. Problem is the government is throwing billions of tax dollars at them, trying to convince, persuade and if necessary force EVs onto everyone. Those who buy into that hype are suckers.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: felixcat 3/14/2024 8:37:26 AM (No. 1677355)
BTW - the US Government was not involved in the first gas stations or purchase of Model Ts - it was all privately funded to support the newly emerging private car industry. See: https://familytreemagazine.com/history/history-of-gas-stations/
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog 3/14/2024 9:22:49 AM (No. 1677389)
The minute tax-dollars are used to "subsidize" any aspect of EVs then the argument changes to, "do suckers pay for other peoples' EVs?"
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Hazymac 3/14/2024 10:10:34 AM (No. 1677426)
Electric vehicles, especially electric cars and trucks, is an entire industry that was never properly thought out by the political players who decided that these contraptions should replace ICE transportation. There shouldn't be subsidies on anything. Whatever won't carry its own weight should become extinct. In beach communities where land is too valuable to be used for parking, hotels, offices, and upper end condominiums are being built on top of several floors of open air parking below. Because of the significantly greater weight and the even more threatening fire risk, e-cars are being banned from some of these places. That trend will continue. Last year at Luton Airport near London a lithium ion battery fire in a 2013 diesel hybrid destroyed an entire parking garage. After the structure sagged under multiple car fires (e- and otherwise), there was no way to get in or out. E-cars are, as others have said, very heavy--the battery alone in the E-Hummer weighs about 3,000 pounds--making them more dangerous to other cars in accidents. When an e-car battery goes into thermal runaway, the only safe place for the car to be is--I'm not kidding about this--completely submerged underwater, where it will still keep burning with flames at 4,500 degrees Fahrenheit (2,500 C) for a long time. Some poor person up Jacksonville way tried to back a boat down a ramp with the family Tesla. Something happened. The car lost power, locked its doors, slid backward into the seawater, and burst into lovely underwater flames. Impressive. Because I'm in Evacuation Zone A, having an e-car around here would be asking for trouble. The building would be threatened. Unacceptable risk.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 3/14/2024 10:30:14 AM (No. 1677438)
Nothing in the article is really a surprise. The information is well known facts to rational people. It's criminal that EVs are being foisted on the public to "solve" a dubious "problem" and are not even a good solution.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: formerNYer 3/14/2024 10:49:07 AM (No. 1677451)
If you gave me an EV, I would sell it immediately.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Venturer 3/14/2024 11:35:50 AM (No. 1677485)
Rich Suckers who are making their tribute to wokeness.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: MickTurn 3/14/2024 12:05:02 PM (No. 1677519)
Add Leftist Idiots to that list, I know several with EV's...
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 3/14/2024 12:11:52 PM (No. 1677535)
That pretty much covers it. Those willing to pay way too much for way too little.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: SALady 3/14/2024 12:23:43 PM (No. 1677560)
Yes. Next incredibly obvious question...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: DVC 3/14/2024 12:54:40 PM (No. 1677610)
Re #2, the PInto is better by a huge margin, as bad as they were.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DiegoDude 3/14/2024 1:14:54 PM (No. 1677630)
Virtue signalers, suckers, what's the difference?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: mifla 3/15/2024 7:39:39 AM (No. 1678150)
If by suckers, you mean liberal kool-aid drinkers, yes.
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