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Posted By: Dreadnought, 2/16/2024 3:13:41 PM

Donald Trump’s days as a Big Apple real estate tycoon may be numbered. A New York judge ordered that the former president pay more than $350 million — and limit his doing business in the state where he made his name — after finding Friday that he inflated his net worth by billions to dupe banks and insurers over the course of a decade. The ruling from Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, if it withstands an inevitable appeal, could cause Trump, 77, to be stripped of control over Midtown’s Trump Tower and his other iconic New York properties. Engoron’s decision capped a three-month civil trial that put a dent

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 2/16/2024 3:18:13 PM (No. 1659218)
No person, no company lost one penny to fraud. There was NO FRAUD. This whole case is a political FRAUD. The only fraud in this case is the judge and the persecutor.....THEY are the fraud.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40 2/16/2024 3:35:07 PM (No. 1659229)
Overturning on appeal will take a few nano seconds! But it has nuisance value.
87 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: daisey 2/16/2024 3:38:54 PM (No. 1659231)
Engoron is as crooked as Letitia James. May they both rot in wherever they will end up.
111 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: Bur Oak 2/16/2024 3:39:09 PM (No. 1659232)
A "supreme" court in New Your state is equivalent to a "district" court in most states.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 2/16/2024 3:44:20 PM (No. 1659235)
If i commented, the staff would have to take this site down. BleachBit wouldn’t do any good.
47 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: hisself 2/16/2024 3:47:38 PM (No. 1659238)
James, Willis, and Erdogan LLC - Attornies Outlaw No ambulance left unchased!
52 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Californian 2/16/2024 3:48:48 PM (No. 1659239)
Which was thrown out on appeal in 3... 2... 1....
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Reply 8 - Posted by: marbles 2/16/2024 3:49:31 PM (No. 1659240)
The left is afraid, very afraid.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: thekidsmom66 2/16/2024 3:49:59 PM (No. 1659241)
Banana Republic style justice
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Reply 10 - Posted by: janjan 2/16/2024 3:57:28 PM (No. 1659243)
The judge, charges, and verdict are all laughable. Letitia James just wasted a large pile of taxpayer money on a mock trial that won’t survive the first appeal. They stole the plot from Alice in Wonderland. First the verdict, then the trial.
54 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: Namma 2/16/2024 4:01:50 PM (No. 1659246)
The city officials just want more money for their precious illegals
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 2/16/2024 4:06:21 PM (No. 1659251)
The vicious commie demonrats stop at nothing - - in an all-out war against President Trump and the USA. Meanwhile - - the Pubbies expel their own members - - and can barely scrape up enough votes to impeach a criminal cabinet secretary - - while leaving utterly corrupt Despicable Joe and his criminal family untouched. The United States used to be a wonderful country - - before it's feckless political class surrendered to a handful of commies.
58 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 2/16/2024 4:08:26 PM (No. 1659252)
Make that "its"
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/16/2024 4:12:48 PM (No. 1659254)
This is our government in action folks. Alarming and embarrassing at the same time. Corruption unchecked. We supposedly have a representative government. What does our government actually represent? It's not its citizens.
34 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 2/16/2024 4:13:05 PM (No. 1659255)
Judges and DAs should be held liable for damages when they persecute people on such bogus charges. Once he wins his appeal, Trump should be able to sue them personally for millions.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Venturer 2/16/2024 4:13:40 PM (No. 1659256)
New York is suffering. They are filled with alien illegals they cannot afford. Crime is Rampant, their budget is hurting so here comes this idiot and screws over their biggest taxpayer. Trump should sell out in New York and not even go back to visit. I believe he will win on Appeal, but it is New York. I hope when he is President he finds a way for payback and shoves it up Engoron's ass.
51 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: planetgeo 2/16/2024 4:16:46 PM (No. 1659259)
Every one of these trials just emphasizes how corrupt and plain evil the Democrats are, as well as amps up our hatred for them. Not only do we want Trump back as President, but it also makes us wish that he would then put Attila the Hun in charge of the "payback" program for their little games.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Lake Dweller 2/16/2024 4:16:48 PM (No. 1659260)
What nonsense. There is no justice
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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird 2/16/2024 4:19:25 PM (No. 1659264)
Jonathan Turley called th3 penalty "confiscatory", asking "is this what we really want?"...
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Catfur27 2/16/2024 4:28:20 PM (No. 1659268)
Donald Trump has become the" American Nelson Mandela" ....persecuted and hounded by a corrupt ,dishonest, and evil Government......until the decent people stand up and no longer tolerate it
33 people like this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: rochow 2/16/2024 4:29:45 PM (No. 1659269)
This jealous trashy ugly judge from CU (what else can you expect). Just like Letitia James jealousy, jealousy.... what pathetic characters.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: nelsonted1 2/16/2024 4:30:50 PM (No. 1659270)
The NYC investors have to be wondering if they are next
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Reply 23 - Posted by: john56 2/16/2024 4:35:43 PM (No. 1659272)
A message to businesses who become political enemies of the rulers of New York .... Leave now!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: FormerDem 2/16/2024 4:57:03 PM (No. 1659278)
I don't think this is going to help NYC
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Ruthless 2/16/2024 4:57:28 PM (No. 1659279)
Blow multiple millions on illegal criminals while simultaneously chasing away the biggest tax-paying entity in your rat-infested sewer. BRILLIANT, Democrats. Simply BRILLIANT!!
28 people like this.

Reply 26 - Posted by: stevendm 2/16/2024 5:03:40 PM (No. 1659283)
They won't be happy until some judge fines Trmp $10 gazillion for jaywalking. Mark my words, it's coming.
13 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: franq 2/16/2024 5:11:07 PM (No. 1659286)
This nonsense makes me want to vomit. But it will give the talking heads plenty of material, now that football season is over. Hello!!!!! Anybody home???? Think, McFly!!!!!
11 people like this.

Reply 28 - Posted by: Birddog 2/16/2024 5:26:00 PM (No. 1659291)
Trumps lawyers will be filing REAMS of Tax Refund claims now...since the Judge has ruled their property values well below the Levels they paid taxes for... Declaring Mar a lago is only worth $27million in Total, even though it pays taxes on over $20million per YEAR in income? Judge and Prosecutor need to now apply the same rules against, Gucci, YSL, ANY famous name branded fashion company, every "Famous Restaurant", "Luxury Brand" car manufacturer,Champagne and booze label...based upon the ratio between their component/ingredient/manufacturing costs and their Market Prices. And ban ALL of them from doing business in NY. The Trump tower "Residence sq footage" is an already acknowledged Mistake made in the filing...it was not a claim that ONE apt was 30,000- sq feet, that is the amount of "Residential zoned" area Trump owns in the Tower itself...ALL of the rental/condo/residential spaces onn all of the floors.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Califedup 2/16/2024 5:43:20 PM (No. 1659293)
Note the ill disguised hatred of President Trump in the way this article was written and published in the Murdoch Owned, Trump Hating, New York Post. A word of caution, don't be too certain that this manifest injustice on our legal President Trump will be reversed on appeal. The Justice System has been infiltrated to the core by the communist death democrats and expecting fair justice from this rotten system is foolish. Just look at the recent ruling regarding the border of Texas by the so-called Supreme Court. This Judge looks and acts like a pervert. Someone should do a little digging into his past and personal life.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: seamusm 2/16/2024 5:46:12 PM (No. 1659295)
If Trump were really vindictive he'd implode these properties and remove them from the NY tax rolls all at once.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Birddog 2/16/2024 5:51:43 PM (No. 1659296)
Absent an immediate Stay from another court... Trump should file an eviction/lease cancellation on EVERY sq ft he controls in NYC...including all of the parking(which is actually most of what he owns outright) Termination of ALL employees, not a layoff, no compensation because it is a "Govt Act", essentially an "Act of God" wherein he has no liabilities whatsoever, all contracts are null and void....Close all hotels, residential , office, restaurants and commercial shops. Turn of all power/water/utilities, board them all up until the the 3 years is up...pay the real estate taxes...but deduct ALL of the "Compelled" loss of revenues.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 2/16/2024 6:02:04 PM (No. 1659304)
Balkanized justice comes to the U.S.A.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: skacmar 2/16/2024 6:10:02 PM (No. 1659311)
AG Letetia James just said in her press conference that when the powerful take more than they deserve everyone loses. That is exactly what happened in this case. The NY AG (James), the crooked judge, and the lap dog media, all got together and proceeded to bring a case that found crimes where none existed. Then, they proceeded to orchestrate a government takeover of the TRUMP organization, properties, and finances while the liberal Trump hating press cheered and went along with the sham trial. New York has become a banana republic. They are unable to show any harm to anyone. Every developer in New York had better be reviewing their financial records and valuations. Lets hope that the NY Appeals Court is not as crooked as the James and Judge Engoron.
17 people like this.

Reply 34 - Posted by: MaxWedge 2/16/2024 6:17:30 PM (No. 1659318)
It's a good thing my doctor isn't taking my blood pressure right now.
11 people like this.

Reply 35 - Posted by: stablemoney 2/16/2024 6:22:44 PM (No. 1659321)
Political prosecutions like here should be punishable by stoning.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: skacmar 2/16/2024 6:25:14 PM (No. 1659322)
Since the state of NY is essentially taking over the Trump Organization, I can see AG James and Judge Engoron ordering that Trump properties be turned over to the state and City of NY to be used as housing for illegal migrants to help alleviate the migrant shelter issues. They will also order that some of the buildings be ordered to house low income families and the homeless as a matter of diversity, equity, and inclusiveness; erasing the systematic racial and economic inequities inherent in Trump residential properties.
10 people like this.

Reply 37 - Posted by: PismoPat 2/16/2024 7:24:17 PM (No. 1659353)
I thought the NYP was better than that..
8 people like this.

Reply 38 - Posted by: billp 2/16/2024 9:00:27 PM (No. 1659373)
The STATE of New York and other leftist run states today. If you have wealth and are not part of their club, they will part you from your money.
9 people like this.

Reply 39 - Posted by: thefield 2/16/2024 9:29:53 PM (No. 1659376)
The part not running the business gor thee years will be easy after becoming president.
5 people like this.

Reply 40 - Posted by: ProudSaber 2/16/2024 10:48:07 PM (No. 1659394)
Boycott! NYC is invested with two legged rats. They're in the swamp, on the bench, in the courts, city hall and in the sewers everywhere. When they get done they will decay into the dumps like Detroit, Baltimore and large cities in the third world. I dared to ride the 5-boroughs ride once upon a time but no more.
6 people like this.

Reply 41 - Posted by: danu 2/16/2024 11:50:22 PM (No. 1659409)
all b/c soreazz wants ny real estate - after it's been devalued to pennies on the dollar , under his schemes.
6 people like this.

Reply 42 - Posted by: bighambone 2/17/2024 1:19:44 AM (No. 1659431)
If this bogus Democrat law fare ruling is upheld, look for a lot of New York Tycoons to cash in their New York chips and move to other States. That will cause New York to loose a lot of all kinds of tax money. Maybe New Yorkers don’t care and figure that they can recover all that lost tax income by taxing illegal aliens!
8 people like this.

Reply 43 - Posted by: mifla 2/17/2024 5:53:02 AM (No. 1659489)
Until Trump wins on appeal, the money has to be put into escrow. The plan was to tie up Trump and his money. The plan is working. New York is corrupt.
9 people like this.

Reply 44 - Posted by: millstream 2/17/2024 7:22:20 AM (No. 1659550)
OMG a real estate developer over stated the value of a property
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Reply 45 - Posted by: Krause 2/17/2024 7:56:08 AM (No. 1659569)
Two-bit democrat operatives Arthur and Letitia are thrilled….for now.
4 people like this.

Reply 46 - Posted by: Samsquanch 2/17/2024 9:16:38 AM (No. 1659613)
This judge, Fani and her loser cheat boyfriend would make a good throuple.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: tangles 2/17/2024 10:13:54 AM (No. 1659639)
No wonder rich people don't run for office. Poor people get rich after they leave office? Let's go after them, too!
4 people like this.

Reply 48 - Posted by: Zigrid 2/17/2024 10:57:57 AM (No. 1659662)
The White House elite are so dumb...they have added more voters to President Trump because of this injustice...and New York has lost a champion that made their city with his buildings...they must be so desperate that they would try this move....and the AG will win election again because she can't lose in New York...it's like Chicago...the rats are in charge and can vote anyone in or out as they please....BUT... things are changing....and after the fani willis mess...the world can see what the White House elites are doing....
8 people like this.

Reply 49 - Posted by: ProudSaber 2/17/2024 11:34:09 AM (No. 1659679)
Does this mean the NYC Superior Court and DA Idiots can now go after the banks that accepted the fraudulent real estate applications?
8 people like this.

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Joe Biden is starting to ride back his committments on forcing the transition to electric vehicles (EVs). According to a report from The New York Times, Biden's administration is giving up on its targets for production of EVs in an apparent "concession" to automakers and labor unions.The plan is also said to be an election ploy as Democrats fear losing the support of automakers and labor unions: Instead of essentially requiring automakers to rapidly ramp up sales of electric vehicles over the next few years, the administration would give car manufacturers more time, with a sharp increase in sales not required until after 2030, these people said.
Dozens of Chinese migrants spotted entering
US illegally in California border town
of Jacumba and say they're here to 'take
the money' along with others from Syria
and Turkey
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Posted by Imright 2/19/2024 5:08:23 PM Post Reply
Shocking images and video taken in California this weekend show Chinese migrants lined up at the border town of Jacumba and telling reporters shamelessly how they're here to 'take the money'. Dozens and dozens, possibly up to hundreds of migrants, crossed the international boundary, according to Griff Jenkins of Fox News, who recorded the footage. 'This is one of the largest groups of Chinese I have ever come across and there were [...] two groups at the same time crossing in Jacumba, CA,' the correspondent tweeted last week.
High-profile Republicans head for the
exits amid House GOP dysfunction
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Posted by earlybird 2/19/2024 11:26:51 AM Post Reply
House Republicans were shocked by some of the recent high-profile retirements announced by their colleagues, which have included powerful committee chairs and rising stars inside the GOP. But given the miserable state of affairs inside the House right now, they also weren’t exactly surprised. “They’ve signed up to do serious things. And we’re not doing serious things,” said Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, a conservative who is retiring after bucking his party on several key issues. Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, a moderate who represents a key swing seat, pointed to his party’s struggle to govern as driving the departures.
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