How the college degree lost its value:
Nearly half of US companies plan to ax
Bachelor's degree requirements - after
Walmart, Accenture and IBM led the charge
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Neirin Gray Desai
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
11/29/2023 11:16:24 PM
Nearly half of US companies intend to eliminate Bachelor's degree requirements for some job positions next year, a new survey has revealed.
And 55 percent said they'd already eliminated degree requirements this year, according to an Intelligent.com survey of 800 US employers, carried out in November.
It comes after Walmart, IBM, Accenture, Bank of America and Google announced similar plans. The survey found that the same employers that have already eliminated Bachelor's degree requirements were far more likely to continue doing so.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
john56 11/30/2023 12:41:22 AM (No. 1607447)
I just retired from a company where the corp VP of Sales (over $5B) is a lady who NEVER got a college degree. And better than many well educated men I've known in similar positions.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
LadyHen 11/30/2023 12:42:05 AM (No. 1607449)
When you let anyone into college (assuming they can get a tax payer backed loan to pay for it)
and then allow anyone to graduate with a degree in whatever crackpot degree regardless of their real qualifications, the degree is now meaningless as it is backed by nothing, no true knowledge of any substance. Hence why we told our son to get his training in a real hands on skill no one can steal. He chose HVAC. He loves it and now does maintenance for an entire high end apartment complex for good money with literally no debt at the age of 22.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Rather Read 11/30/2023 12:55:56 AM (No. 1607457)
When I got my degree 50 years ago, the rot was just beginning to set in. Nevertheless, I did have to read the classics, write with correct grammar and my teachers did not have an agenda. Now, it's horrible. Unless you are in a STEM class, everything is taught with feminist or queer theory and DEI is everywhere.
I've thought about taking some history and literature classes just for my own interest but when I read the syllabus - no way.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Northcross 11/30/2023 1:05:44 AM (No. 1607460)
Far too many degrees today convey no tangible skills to the business world. Exceptions to that rule would be in engineering, architecture, computer science, biochemistry, etc. where real knowledge is developed and the degree represents someone who is a highly intelligent problem solver.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 11/30/2023 2:16:01 AM (No. 1607469)
One thing a university degree once conveyed to potential employers was that SOMEONE had vetted the graduate for four, or more, years and could attest to their veracity, tenacity for achieving goals, and to some degree, their eagerness toward matriculation. Take away those four years and these corporations are going to find out how many liars, cheats, and downright mischievous people are out there seeking comfortable jobs. Show me an HR Policy that hasn't crashed and burned over the last 30 years. This will be just one more on the rubble heap.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
seamusm 11/30/2023 2:55:38 AM (No. 1607473)
Even at Texas A&M, my youngest dared not open his mouth in a required English class lest the woman teacher bite it (or some other body part) off.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
nwcudagal 11/30/2023 5:41:01 AM (No. 1607511)
In a previous life I was the highest paid dept head where I worked with no college degree. The most insufferable employees I had to deal with were those who were what I call "educated stupid". In private life I had friends whose children went off to college and spent the whole time partying. Assuming those are the ones getting their debt forgiven. I'm not putting down education at all, but sometimes it isn't the right fit for some people.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DiegoDude 11/30/2023 6:11:26 AM (No. 1607526)
If you don't have any sort of work history, all a college degree shows a perspective employer is that you managed to stick it out. You'll get OJT on your job anyway, so the diploma is pretty useless, unless you're in the sciences, engineering and medical fields.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Lazyman 11/30/2023 6:39:36 AM (No. 1607540)
I feel bad for all the suckers who got a free degree and a pass from white guilt professors who moved them through school without learning anything.
3 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
chumley 11/30/2023 6:42:02 AM (No. 1607541)
Wasnt it a college graduate who turned Bud Light into a gay beer? And target into a gay store?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
privateer 11/30/2023 6:53:17 AM (No. 1607542)
Makes it easier to hire illegals who never finished secondary, or even primary school in the 3rd world. And I agree with 2, real skills and a work ethic will practically guarantee success. An advanced degree in Useless Studies...not so much.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Venturer 11/30/2023 8:25:30 AM (No. 1607602)
The Government should do the same.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
czechlist 11/30/2023 9:00:28 AM (No. 1607637)
as I recall the push for hiring only those with a BS degree began during the clinton/gore "reinvention of the government". I was in the defense industry at the time and noted that I would never have been hired 20 years earlier with only my AAS. I was in a management position and fought with HR over hiring non degreed experienced engineers and technicians over recent BS gradutes.
take government funding and play by government rules.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 11/30/2023 9:44:03 AM (No. 1607684)
I attended college but didn't finish my bachelor's - an advisor that didn't know graduation requirements and life happened when I started my senior year. I was an older student anyways. I could never get a permanent position as a computer programmer/project manager because I couldn't get past HR with the list of requirements that said "bachelors degree" no matter how many years of experience I had. So I made my career as a contract consultant. Dumb companies would hire me at twice the hourly wage of the permanent position to do the job for months or years. Many of my jobs were coming behind those "brilliant college grads" and fixing their stupidity.
I also know of a company that a friend's hubby works for that refuses to hire ANY graduate of the local university's computer science program.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/30/2023 10:04:23 AM (No. 1607706)
It’s about time. I was a worker all my life. I have brains and experience, with a tough work ethic, but without at least a Bachelor’s, I lost more jobs than I could count. I finally went back to school because of it, and saw firsthand to whom they were handing degrees. Talk about depressing, but it certainly explained a lot about your average special interest hire, especially in government, social work and education.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 11/30/2023 10:14:06 AM (No. 1607722)
Those companies never led any charge. What a bunch of lies. This trend began about ten years ago amongst those businesses and companies that wanted competency and not activists morons.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 11/30/2023 10:34:56 AM (No. 1607735)
This requirement has always been pushed by academia to keep the closed-loop system profitable for them. I have always waived college requirements when I hired people because I had the same background, self-study, OJT and hard work trumps a degree anytime. I retired as an IT manager for a large corporation and always ran a tight, effective ship.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
SALady 11/30/2023 11:06:00 AM (No. 1607758)
The ever more dumbing down of America!!!
Everyone here is talking about how useless college is. Wake up. High school is just as useless of a lie-beral indoctrination these days (if not more so) than college. At least with college graduates, you can limit your search to graduates in actual related degree programs (like accounting) and require a high GPA. My last boss before I retired required a real degree in a related field with a minimum GPA of 3.5 from major universities and colleges for all but clerical staff. They were outstanding employees, and he definitely paid more for their salaries, but got much higher profit margins than most of his competitors that easily covered that.
But with Biden-flation, that may not be possible anymore... Sad!!!
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A college degree amounts to nothing more than an attendance certificate. Graduates emerge credentialed but still ignorant. That Cortez twit is an excellent example with her degree in economics from Boston University. The 0bama woman has a degree from Princeton.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Geoman 11/30/2023 11:55:49 AM (No. 1607794)
Ive worked for a variety of good to great leaders within three levels of law enforcement: local, state, and federal. The best by a large margin, was a chief who had never attended college but had served in the Air Force for eight years as an enlisted man. Having worked with MITRE while in the USAF, he believed in identifying, articulating, and pursuing strategic objectives towards achieving organization's strategic vision of what the department, a cross-trained outfit of Police, Fire, and EMS, sought to become. He believed that every member of the organization, bottom to top, should understand their role within the organization and how they contribute to achieving the organization's strategic objectives. Individual merit pay was tied directly in to the associated metrics.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 11/30/2023 3:27:36 PM (No. 1607894)
Actually, a "liberal arts" degree probably makes the holder LESS capable of functioning competently in most businesses.
A head filled with Marxist and hate-America nonsense is crippling.
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