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Posted By: Judy W., 8/17/2023 8:03:52 AM

Wherever we drive nowadays, we see electric vehicles (EVs) amid the normal internal combustion cars and hybrids. (Snip) The modern Left has a dream – that soon, very soon, every vehicle in the world will be electric, running on a heavy, cobalt-laden, lithium battery that needs to be charged up somewhere with electricity derived from an out-of-sight coal plant. The EV’s current average, we are told, is eight hours to a “full charge,” whatever that means. It might be a couple hundred miles, maybe less, maybe more. Some chargers charge faster, some vehicles take longer. We rarely see the EVs charging up while we fill our normal cars


This is great, drilling down into practical consequences of large numbers of electric vehicles. Do hotels have to provide a charging station for each room? Where would they put them? How can people who live hours away drive EVs to, say, a state fair, where parking is in fields and there are no chargers? And so on. The result, and probably the motivation of our betters, he points out, is that people will stay close to home and not meet in large numbers (at locations where they might have fun or talk to like-minded people.)

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Reply 1 - Posted by: thomthomp 8/17/2023 8:12:44 AM (No. 1536095)
Forget the inconveniences and dangers (and logic) we MUST save the planet!!!... ...or something.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Venturer 8/17/2023 8:30:40 AM (No. 1536114)
I was on 95 the on Saturday going to Richmond. The highway has a 70 MPH speed limit for 40 miles I never got over 35 as the highway was filled with cars crawling along because of the traffic. Sometimes it stopped completely. I tried to imagine all of these car being electric and having a dying battery and crawling along and looking for a charging station. It aint going to happen folks and there is no way in hell Democrats can convince me it will. Use you head and next time you are in traffic imagine how all of these automobiles and tractor trailer trucks are going to be carrying large batteries and be charged by the million by solar panels and windmills.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Encore 8/17/2023 8:42:36 AM (No. 1536123)
Glorified golf carts. Good for nothing more than going to get a few groceries, taking the kids to ball practice…and too expensive for just that. Not to mention how damaging to the earth they are to make.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Plex 8/17/2023 8:43:45 AM (No. 1536124)
The left wants everyone to live in 15 minute cities without cars. EVs are just a transition. It is much easier to control a population that cannot travel and gather at Trump rallies.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Californian 8/17/2023 8:59:17 AM (No. 1536137)
Where is the guy who always posts his rental wouldn't charge above 80% because he didn't read the manual, ask the rental place, check online, or just look at the dash controls? Yes, these things are golf carts which out perform most sports cars in a drag race and on the track. Horribly slow using a technology that has effectively infinite torque. Dreadful! And they take days to charge because the only way to charge them is plug them into a house light socket. And sitting in traffic for hours they will all die... after an about a week of not moving but with the AC and radio on. Ok now that we covered the technical nonsense.... Once again, the problem with EV is the left pushing them and effectively making ICE illegal over the next 5-15 years. Lack of choice is the problem. They are great vehicles for people who don't drive across the state regularly or live in the woods with no electricity. For everything else, I drive my ICE. They are currently an option that fills a niche for many. There is no technical issue. The government force is the problem.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: hisself 8/17/2023 9:04:47 AM (No. 1536142)
I live near what is currently the largest Buc-ee's in the world. It has sixteen Tesla charging stations. Whenever I go by there, (it is across from the Creekside shopping center), there are at least 4 EVs recharging. Usually, when I return, the same cars are still there. Gee, daddy, I want a car that takes hours to refuel, and then goes almost 200 miles.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Cindiana 8/17/2023 9:19:55 AM (No. 1536162)
If I run out of gas, whether because of my negligence or traffic circumstances, there are options for getting enough gas into my tank to allow me to get to the next station to fill up--including walking to get a few dollars of gas and carrying it back. Serious question: what happens if an EV runs out of charge while out on the road?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: NorthernDog 8/17/2023 9:20:40 AM (No. 1536164)
Last week we were in a neighborhood filled with ''affordable''' apartments. Hundreds of units - most have been there for decades. Old telephone poles laced with electrical wires dot the landscape. There would be no place to put charging stations in such an area, and I doubt those power lines could even handle a few more volts. The whole idea is nutty.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 8/17/2023 9:30:34 AM (No. 1536172)
I live in Northern Virginia where in 2035 it will be illegal to buy a gas powered vehicle. Ever night hundred of thousands of vehicles- many commercial service vehicles are parked on side streets where there are no charging stations. The same In apartment and condo parking lots. Are these drivers expected to run power cords from their houses across streets and sidewalks? Sure the politicians who live in gated communities with garages will be able to charge their expensive EVs but the people who make this country work won’t- that may be their goal.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Safari Man 8/17/2023 9:45:07 AM (No. 1536186)
If you liked the Lahaina fire, you'll love an all-EV future.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/17/2023 10:03:29 AM (No. 1536196)
The leftists used to have a huge fear of "Heavy Metal Poisoning," but now they mandate, and demand we embrace the "green" lifestyle. Electric Vehicle "Love," ironically combined with Incandescent Light "Hate," is what you get when we allow Political Science Majors to make Engineering decisions. Disaster
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mcscow sailor 8/17/2023 10:24:01 AM (No. 1536209)
Observationally…there were few service stations in the US in 1919, when the first transcontinental trip was made by car. Now, there is estimated 170,000 gasoline pumps. Assuming that an electric stop stakes three times longer than a gas stop, and that electric cars are three times more efficient (gallons per mile equivalent, a full electric economy would require 170, 000 stalls. I see no economic reason why this change cannot happen for electricity…it happened for gasoline…I would agree that shortages in copper and other materials will rate limit the adoption of electric vehicles, and might agree that hybrids offer a better solution…but I really do not see land space for chargers being a barrier.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: john56 8/17/2023 10:35:52 AM (No. 1536217)
#6, Like you, I live near that Buc-ees. I think there are now about two or three larger than that one, but I digress. Like you, I see all those empty Tesla chargers along the IH-35 frontage road. Our local electric coop has a charging station outside their offices a few miles down the road from the Buc-ees. About a year ago, they had an article about the use of the station. Why, that month, there were NINE (count 'em, NINE) unique users of the charging station. A few months later, I noticed there was an "Out of Order" sign on the charging station and it was there for several weeks. I've never seen anyone use that station and as far as I know, it may be the only public charging station in that community (about 15 miles south of the above mentioned Buc-ees) of nearly 30,000 people.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: felixcat 8/17/2023 10:48:19 AM (No. 1536224)
Re #7 - What happens when you run out of your charge? Motor Trend had a recent article about the Ford Rivian EV truck that they drove to deliberately run out of the charge. My small little town outside Northern Virginia just installed two charging stations - I think they're the high end chargers. Apparently, the state paid for them in cooperation with some agreement with Tesla. They're free to anyone to use. So my local tax dollars are paying for this electricity but I still have to pay for my own gasoline. The Left wants us out of our cars and inside towns that they can control and they don't care one bit about the environment; the birds, marine life, etc. that will be killed to destroy the middle class and our traditional way of life .
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bpl40 8/17/2023 11:13:05 AM (No. 1536239)
The real target is personal mobility for the masses. When you understand that, the whole plot falls into place.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: coyote 8/17/2023 11:35:12 AM (No. 1536257)
Gas powered vehicles for me, until they pry the car keys from my cold, dead hands.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: cold porridge 8/17/2023 11:44:57 AM (No. 1536263)
#12: The key problem word in your statement is "assuming." You are assuming that your statistics are accurate, but they are totally wacky and incorrect.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 8/17/2023 12:40:59 PM (No. 1536314)
There are people who read this article, shake their heads, and next election still vote 'Democrat.' This is beyond my level of understanding.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: mc squared 8/17/2023 2:04:41 PM (No. 1536360)
#12: 'Assuming that an electric stop stakes three times longer than a gas stop..' 3 to 5 minutes to fill with unleaded and ONLY 15 minutes to recharge an EV? I want what you're smoking.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2023 2:08:17 PM (No. 1536362)
My cabin is about 700 miles away, and my Accord needs about 4 extra gallons to make it, although, of course we top off the tank, since it takes about 5 minutes. The 4Runner needs about 10 gallons beyond tank capacity to make it, but of course we top it off. An EV with a 200 mile range and hours to charge.....our 10 or so hour trip would take two days. An absolute non-starter. I did hybrid and EV design and construction in grad school and know all about how the work. Are lithium batteries far better than the old lead-acid batteries of the 1970s? Yes, they are, except for catching fire occasionally. But they also cost about 5-10 times as much. EVs will forever be "the car of the future" until the Mr. Fusion from Back to the Future, Part II becomes reality - which is probably never.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2023 2:17:06 PM (No. 1536368)
Re #2, I used to live in central Va and also northern Va, and several other areas of the state over my lifetime. I have despised I-95 from about Petersburg north to DC for the last 50+ years. IMO, old US-301 was, in the 1950s and1960s a better and more pleasant drive, although, of course, it was carrying a fraction of the traffic that I-95 carries today. I have driven from Virginia to Florida dozens and dozens of times since the 1950s when I rode with my parents until the 60s when I did it many times from college to home, and later visiting parents and relatives and friends. I still own property in central Virginia, although I just lease it to a neighbor for deer hunting these days. EVs are a joke. But then, I-95 is a joke, too. And they powers that be don't want to increase the capacity, because they really don't WANT us to be mobile. The old idea of making the highways larger to accommodate theincreasing traffic and make it flow smoothly and rapidly.....out moded by the WEF folks who want us all on public transportation and having no travel not controlled by them.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2023 2:19:54 PM (No. 1536371)
Re #7, a $150-200 tow truck, although it'll be a flatbed that lifts the whole vehicle and takes it to a dealer. The 'hitch a ride and buy a 2 gallon gas can and walk back' is not going to be possible.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 8/17/2023 2:27:52 PM (No. 1536376)
Great article with the REAL objections to battery powered cars. IF the "dangers" using of fossil fuels were PROVEN, it might be worth the inconvenience and restrictions of EVs. However, the Alarmists' claims are NOT proven and seem more shaky every year. WHY should we make such sacrifices for such flakey "scientific" claims? Proof of the problem first. Then solutions. Speaking of solutions, EVs are not. It is NOT possible to make enough batteries and the ecological damage done by mining for the rare earths needed in an attempt to produce them would be enormous. This whole process, Alarm to bogus solution is INSANE.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: faceincrowd 8/17/2023 2:51:28 PM (No. 1536394)
Curtailing freedoms. Controlling the movement of your citizens. A long way from "see the USA in your Chevrolet:" aren't we?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2023 4:08:22 PM (No. 1536464)
Re #12...."asuming it takes three times as long as a gas stop"..... total fantasy. How about two or three hours? Tesla's own web site says that "A Tesla Wall Connector offers the fastest charging speed for your home or office, adding up to 44 miles of range per hour charged." OK, if you need 200 miles of charge (equivalent to putting about 5.5 gallons in my Honda Accord) it will take you 4.5 HOURS. That is more like 90 times the about 15 minutes that it take me to put 17 gallons which is about 600-650 miles range in my Accord, depending whether I run 80 or 70 mph in cruising. Tesla also says that "A 120 volt outlet will supply 2 to 3 miles of range per hour charged." So, an overnight charge at home, without installing the high cost special outlet and upgrading your whole home electrical system, will give 20 miles to 30 miles for a 10 hour charge. Wow, that's wonderful Like about 3/4 of a gallon of gas in my Accord. Facts. From Tesla's web site. Verify if you like.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2023 4:10:38 PM (No. 1536465)
Re #9, if they run an extension cord to a normal outlet they'll gain 20-30 miles in an overnight 10 hour charge. If they manage 12 hours, 24-36 miles....which will serve to properly control them. Keep them from just traveling because they wanted to.
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Posted by ladydawgfan 8/18/2023 3:21:23 PM Post Reply
Al Sharpton, who has a history of stoking racial tensions, accused former President Donald Trump of wanting to use the N-word in a social media post about election rigging in Georgia during the 2020 election. In a post on Truth Social, Trump said he would hold a press conference laying out evidence of voter fraud in Georgia and how he has been targeted for fighting against the election "RIGGERS!" Trump has since announced his legal team has advised to put what was going to be said in the press conference into legal court documents and the presser will no longer take place.
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