Hawaii wildfire death toll rises to 53
as governor reveals 'billions of dollars
of property has been destroyed': Officials
to give an update tonight

I hate this. I was in Maui 20 years ago, it was a funky, little town of most dopers living on benefits bur, as worthless as they are, I wouldn’t wish them on on this. A lot of the Main Street were frame buildings jammed together. It didn’t take much to torch the whole town.

I wonder where they are going to put all the debris? It's a small island so I doubt there is any land suitable to pile-up mountains of burned-out cars and buildings.

Mary Greeley's YT channel has been covering the horrific tragedy. She had some footage of people driving through this firestorm and the video was shot from within the vehicle. This is also being likened to the firestorm of Dresden Germany during WWII. Hundreds of bodies taken from the ocean, bodies lying in the road, plus who knows how many bodies are still in the burned out buildings. Just heartbreaking to watch.

Likely was ecoterrorism.

re #1....somebody drop a joint and too stoned to notice?

Explain to me why bodies in the ocean? if they made it to the water, shouldn't they have been OK?

So sad. Was on Maui 30+ years ago. Folks don't realize there's dry parts, basically mini deserts, on the islands due to the mountains. I didn't. Guide showed us where the last fire had been. These are nothing new - just the level of loss is, though. But then reality or facts don't matter to the global warming alarmists.

#6~ Bodies in ocean, why not okay? EXCERPTS from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/08/10/water-pool-ocean-safe-wildfire/ Why jumping into water to escape a wildfire should be a last resort By Teddy Amenabar – August 10, 2023 ~~~ Experts say you should do everything you can to get out of the area rather than being forced into water to escape a fire. Even if you’re submerged underwater and protected from the burning flames, you’re still at risk from ash and embers falling from the sky. And it’s going to become harder to breathe if the fire is raging around you. “You probably won’t get burned, but that’s not what’s going to kill you,” said Carl Otsuka, fire inspector for the Honolulu Fire Department. “It’s the smoke that’s going to kill you.” All of this means that if you seek refuge in the water, you may be stuck there for several hours “before the coast is clear,” Kolden said. “People don’t realize how long you’re going to be in the water,” Kolden said. “Hypothermia and risk of drowning due to not being able to swim or tread water for that long are very real possibilities.” The flames may run out of fuel, but the smoke will linger. “You literally can’t see anything, so you don’t know if it’s safe to get out yet,” Kolden said. “Those nice, green irrigated lawns, they don’t burn,” Kolden said. “If you get in the middle of that and you get down low on the ground where the coolest, cleanest air is, then you have a much higher likelihood of surviving.” If you can’t evacuate, it’s important to try to get away from fuel sources that can produce smoke and heat, Kolden said. The football field at the local high school, an open field or even an empty parking lot can be the best place to go if there’s no way to escape a wildfire. “You don’t want to get caught in your car. You don’t want to get caught in a forest,” Kolden said. In Paradise, Calif., people survived one of the most destructive fires in the state’s history by huddling together in the middle of “this giant asphalt parking lot” outside of a grocery store, Kolden said. "So, I look for places like that,” Kolden said. “What is the place that is close by that I know won’t catch on fire?” ~~~

Were any of the billionaires there? The ones with homes on that island?

Waiting to see how the fire started.

I feel for the people who died and the survivors who lost their homes and pets. But It seems to me that for the most part, the Hawaiian Islands seem to have not been affected over the years by too many natural disasters as in other parts of CONUS where tornadoes, hurricanes , wildfires, floods, etc are a regular occurrence.

Ecoterrorism, almost certainly.