It’s The Big Ugly, and We’re Here
For It
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
11/11/2022 2:54:14 PM
Perhaps a little focus on the foundation of the issue is in order.
Ever since the professional republican apparatus decided to target, eliminate and destroy the grassroots movement known as the Tea Party, there was always going to come a time when the battle for the heart and soul of the GOP club would take place.
CTH has been calling this battle ‘The Big Ugly‘
(snip) the fight between the grassroots working class base of MAGA voters and the professional political snobs in control of the Republican club .(snip) in 2015 things changed. The voting base found a weapon for use against the Republican Club,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Quigley 11/11/2022 3:13:28 PM (No. 1331083)
Before you buy into the dump Trump publicity campaign this read might be useful. It’s got a lot of saucy sentences and you might not believe it. But I’m not buying into “Trump was disrespectful to desantis so let’s dump him” memes that have popped up faster than “insurrection” memes at 3:30 pm on jan 6.
Can desantis be bought? Was he bought with the alleged $200 million contribution ? Is this all invented? Do we want somebody new to experiment with for 6 years before we find out that they, too, are not the predicted savior?
I’m giving it some time and am not switching opinion from some writer trying to convince me a tweet is “bad.” I’m not falling for the psyops.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rich323 11/11/2022 3:25:29 PM (No. 1331092)
Agree with num 1 completely. We need to read articles and not make comments based on emotional responses to just the headlines or others comments. Lots of never Trump bots showing up everywhere as a psyop to influence everyone’s position. This has become a very complex chess game that includes the electorate and we need be smart before we jump in the game.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
gop_guys 11/11/2022 3:29:19 PM (No. 1331096)
CTH is the most respected conservative grass roots think tank out there. Fox is promoting this bad orange man narrative for days 24/7. I’ll never forget how GOPe Paul Ryan damaged this country by blocking our agenda at every turn for 2 full years. His reward; appointed a a board member of Fox. He is a traitor and an abomination, pushing a split between conservative patriot proles and the GOP elites. Mitchell and McCarthy must go. They have failed us in their leadership role, first with the Tea party & now MAGA. Follow CTH as if your life depended on it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Sanddollar 11/11/2022 3:30:56 PM (No. 1331099)
I know this comment won't be liked but I expect that Trump will be indicted soon. The Dems are after him and won't give up.
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Sorry, but I followed the Sundance narrative daily when it looked like everyone involved in the Russia collusion set-up was gong to be carted off to prison. Instead, nothing. Not saying that his facts were wrong, I just don't want to spend the next 2 years full of hope that Trump will save us all only to find out (again) that 80+ million Americans still won't vote for him.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
2assume 11/11/2022 4:18:30 PM (No. 1331128)
I have no idea what I just tried to read. I feel stupid. I couldn’t make heads or tails of article
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
gop_guys 11/11/2022 4:30:52 PM (No. 1331133)
Understood 6. He gets into the details (weeds). It’s a battle between the establishment of the GOP vs patriot conservatives. It’s about power, control, & lots of money.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Citoyen 11/11/2022 4:43:01 PM (No. 1331142)
To put it simply, #6, this article is yet another hit job against Ron DeSantis. The author has put all his hopes of getting this country back on President Trump. Unfortunately Trump has been showing signs of weakness. Attacking the man who just won an outstanding victory in Florida and who has not uttered one word against him makes Trump look weak. To bolster this publication's adherence to the principle that no other politician in the country is worth a glance, the smears against the very popular DeSantis must be concocted and dispensed. This article is a good example of the paranoid in politics.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Italiano 11/11/2022 5:37:38 PM (No. 1331168)
Very thought-provoking, and depressing. I’m rethinking my positions, but unfortunately not my belief that the Club/Swamp ultimately prevails. Sucks, but there it is.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
velirotta 11/11/2022 6:26:57 PM (No. 1331193)
All I can say is, for me this article has the ring of truth. Trump has had a hard row to hoe from the beginning, and now the media attempt to poison him in the eyes of the public has the look of "conspiracy" to me.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Hugh Akston 11/11/2022 6:45:20 PM (No. 1331200)
#5 - Trump got more votes. Biden got more ballots. Not the same thing. Please don't fall for the 'Biden got 81 million votes'. He probably got less than 70 million, just my gut, not hard evidence. 0bama got 68 million and you honestly believe Biden got 81 million,18...million...more...votes than Clinton got just 4 years earlier. 18 million? C'mon man. As Spock would say, 'That's illogical'.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/11/2022 7:09:19 PM (No. 1331218)
Actually, #6, it’s not a hit job, but an observation putting a lot of pieces together and coming to a conclusion that does not sit well with the current establishment Republican narrative. In my experience, someone calls a person paranoid when they have something to hide. Sundance is heady stuff, but he is rarely ever wrong. Stick with it. You will learn a lot.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Geoman 11/11/2022 7:15:40 PM (No. 1331222)
The epithet, "Never Trumper" should have become OBE in January 2017, when Trump was sworn in as our 45th president. It now begs the question never Trump what? To use the intended derogatory term beyond 2017 is rather nonsensical, like calling a non-narrative following democrat a "Never Obamer." Perhaps 'anti-Trump,' 'former Trumpite,' or 'Trump fatigued' would be more descriptive. The CTH is often one person's version of objective truth and another person's version of marketing/propaganda or subjective opinion cleverly embedded in tidbits of truth, neither consistently wrong nor right. I'm not sold on DeSantis but I detest the bullies in the media and within our government who have gone after Trump for years and I feel that way now about the bullies going after DeSantis. It was once common wisdom that Obama's IRS targeting caused the demise of the Tea Party through the biased, uneven application of IRS rules for political organizations. Sundance is doing a hit pieces on DeSantis as if he were writing for Politico, who by the way, did their own article in 2016 on the demise of the Tea Party, blaming so-called conservative, national PACs, like the Tea Party Leadership Fund, who bilked small Southern and midwest contributors for $6.7M but claimed an 87% overhead, enriching those bicoastal elites behind the Fund, like they were BLM "leadership." True grass roots movements are essentially leaderless, at least until their self-proclaimed leaders take the money and run. Elements of the Sundance article line up squarely with the gist of the old Politico article but it begs the question, why did Sundance wait until after the midterm election and the limited GOP gains in the federal and state governments to spring the allegations against DeSantis? Keep in mind that yesterday evening Sundance put out an article, that Boebert had already won CO-3 by a growing margin and made other claims favorable to Republicans endorsed by Trump as a done deal. Those predictions have yet to pan out and Boebert is now reported to be only 0.4 percentage points ahead of her democrat opponent, far less of a lead than she had yesterday evening, very similar to Laxalt's Senate race in NV. Since Tuesday evening the meme-making of DeSantis as corrupt or owned by corrupt, establishment Republicans and the democrat media has accelerated and Sundance appears to be leading the charge. I have absolutely no idea how this will shake out but I will never vote for a democrat or a third party candidate, which is synonymous with voting democrat.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Saluda Coondog 11/11/2022 8:23:02 PM (No. 1331257)
Sundance is 100% correct in his observations over the past 4 years. Desantis has been the chosen "one" by the DC power brokers of the uniparty (His video links him as a God) that is now bought and paid for by the GOPe, Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street interest and Bankers. Look at the conservative treehouse at articles attacking Trump and promoting Desantis. Many media sources are once again on the same page trying to promote their GOPe interest to keep DC functioning as it has in the past to benefit the elite at the expense of the regular person. The election has been run by the uniparty using harvested ballots of people with No ID, dead people, Unborn people, people that have moved to various States that were not purged from voter list and voting ballots made by Printers as needed. to overcome true votes on election day. The "Big Ugly" is the battle we now face to try to get our elected officials to represent US and not their moneyed interest. The power brokers are trying to Kill MAGA people (former Tea party people) and as Trump says he is only in their way of achieving their goal of removing the voters (MAGA) and replace us with collected ballots that they control. This is the battle that MAGA with Trumps help now face. Do you want Constitutional American Democracy where voters (people) direct their leaders or Communist Democracy where privileged government elites that Know everything tell us how to live our lives? This is the Big Ugly battle that we are supporting Trump to help us win.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/11/2022 8:26:25 PM (No. 1331258)
Reporting fraudulent counting does not mean it’s accurate reporting.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
jj1319 11/11/2022 8:42:09 PM (No. 1331265)
With all due respect #13, CTH outlined the position of DeSantis following the Mar a Lago raid.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bpl40 11/11/2022 8:44:26 PM (No. 1331267)
DeSantis is Jeb 2.0 - period. Now do you know why PDT took a jab at him? DeSantis is not his own man. You are letting Karl Rove in through the back door. It does not have to be Trump vs DeSantis. But it is up to DeSantis if he means what he says.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
ToryWhite 11/12/2022 8:32:07 AM (No. 1331503)
Reply 1 is right. I like this article because it is also right. Don't know if DeSantis is aware that he is being manipulated by the elite multi-sourced cabal that is turning this country into a global dumping ground. I hope Trump beats the bastards, every one of them. I know that millions would still agree. Real people who do not think Fox News is the gospel, for instance.
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