Electric Nightmare: EV Owner Details 15-Hour
Trek to Travel 178 Miles
Breitbart Tech,
by
Alana Mastrangelo
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
10/19/2022 1:04:36 PM
An electric vehicle (EV) owner who takes road trips between Cheyenne and Casper in Wyoming has revealed that his first trip of 178 miles took a staggering 15 hours to complete in his electric Nissan Leaf.
“It was very difficult. For example, [it took] 15 hours to get from Cheyenne to Casper,” Alan O’Hashi told Cowboy State Daily, adding that this particular trip wasn’t taken in the beginning of the EV era. It was in May 2022.
One month later, O’Hashi was able to complete the road trip in about 11 hours, he said. To put it into perspective,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
FJB 2022 23 24 10/19/2022 1:15:06 PM (No. 1308903)
Even if I could afford one, I would never buy or even rent an EV. 15 hours for a normally 2 and a half hour drive is insane, and I would be too at the end of it. JB take your EV aganda and stuff it. FJB, Jill 2.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Californian 10/19/2022 1:20:45 PM (No. 1308907)
He's dumb. A Leaf is intended solely for short commutes around town. Nothing more.
This is like complaining it took a few days to go 178 miles in your electric golf cart.
EVs certainly have issues but this one is just silly.
I don't use a hammer as a screw driver. I don't use a glass cup as a hammer. I don't use a screw driver to drink out of.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Sandpiper 10/19/2022 1:21:24 PM (No. 1308909)
OK. Now add winter. See what happens then.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
slipstik 10/19/2022 1:27:52 PM (No. 1308915)
So, #2, why does a Leaf look more like a car than a GOLF CART??
Maybe it needs a federally mandated label engraved into the windshield, "not intended for automotive use"...
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Rich323 10/19/2022 1:32:17 PM (No. 1308918)
The EV technology and the infrastructure to support are all possible. However, you can’t wish this into existence overnight or even within a couple decades. It will take years of competent planning and development of reliable alternative power sources to make this happen. Right now America needs to fix what we have as almost every internal system from our economy, supply chain and border security are broken. After we get stabilized the vehicle road and bridge infrastructure, transportation systems (our airports and rail systems need upgrades). Our priorities must be common sense driven.
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Another problem with EVs in a place like Wyoming is that the hilly terrain and winds need to be factored in, as it can degrade an EV’s range by up to half, the report added.
Something no one ever talks about.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 10/19/2022 1:37:08 PM (No. 1308924)
Sooo those of us that live in the country and going to the closest large town about 35 miles takes me 35-45 min in a gas vehicle would most of a day to get there and back and doesn't include any in town traveling I have to do. God forbid I have to go to the city that is 1 1/2 hrs away. Nope - not happening.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
formerNYer 10/19/2022 1:42:19 PM (No. 1308929)
Gee, I thought EVs were great that what the commercials and the liberal keep telling me.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 10/19/2022 1:43:05 PM (No. 1308930)
A neighbor got a company-provided Tesla that he took on a long-distance trip. What was normally an 8-hour drive in an ICE car took over 12 hours and required a different route to get to chargers. He told me he never let the battery run down, so he had to make frequent stops to "top it off."
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Californian 10/19/2022 1:49:31 PM (No. 1308933)
4, I'm no Leaf fan. It looks like a golf cart because it's just barely better than one.
People need to take responsibility for their decisions. If you live in a place where a golf cart is a bad idea then don't drive a golf cart 178 miles.
A Tesla is a functional vehicle in most places and conditions. I wouldn't take one across country but I have taken one across most of California (500+ lies each way) and it wasn't a big deal. Solo in my sports car I'd go straight through with 1 stop for gas and no food stops. With the family we had to stop for lunch anyway so there was a lunch stop, we recharged while eating and the car was full before we were done eating.
I understand and agree that forcing people to buy them is bad policy and just stupid. But the higher end non-leaf, non-golf cart EVs are fine for most use.
Anyone who buys a Leaf deserves their suffering though. It was always garbage.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Marzon 10/19/2022 1:53:15 PM (No. 1308937)
So now I'm going to have to buy, insure, and maintain two cars? An EV I can only use for short trips around town and a real car for everything else? And then I of course I will need to add an extra bay onto my garage. Seems to me the "dumb" decision is buying any EV at all.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
SALady 10/19/2022 2:00:07 PM (No. 1308941)
Gee #2, apparently Nissan doesn't know their Leaf is "...intended solely for short commutes around town. Nothing more.". If you go over to their web site (https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/leaf.html), Nissan says:
With an EPA range up to 212 miles, fast and easy charging, and innovative tools designed to help stretch your miles and battery, a weekend road trip is never out of the question.
Then if you follow the link (https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/leaf/features/range-charging-battery.html), it shows several nice long road trips you can supposedly take in a Leaf, including ones in the Rocky Mountains (162 miles) and Great Smokey Mountains (196 miles).
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the Leaf is nothing more than a glorified golf cart. But Nissan is sure selling its buyers a load of BS!!!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Californian 10/19/2022 2:18:45 PM (No. 1308949)
12, yes, they are selling lies. Buyers need to do research before large purchases. Something more than looking at the web page glossy from the marketing department.
No one has to buy two cars. No one should buy a Leaf for anything. It's a dumb buy for anyone. If it was free I'd immediately sell it to avoid insurance payments on a useless heap.
If you have a real EV you're good to go for almost anything.
If you are one of the people for whom an EV doesn't work? Don't buy one. Sheesh, it's not that hard.
No one is going to force you to buy an EV. There isn't enough grid or lithium or anything else critical needed for an all EV personal transport industry. I don't know why every one here freaks out like this is really going to happen. It's just more virtue signaling nonsense from politicians who won't have to live with the results of their decisions in 20 years.
I have a Model 3. Love it. I also have a 6 figure 2 seater gas guzzling sports car. Love it. They serve entirely different purposes and roles. If you want to own and drive a single more reasonably priced 4 door ICE then please do so, no one is stopping you.
And please no one tell me how California has mandated all EV by 2035. That's not going to happen. It physically can't. The state is already short on power and is doing nothing to fix the grid or power source resource issues. Why do you believe Newsome?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
snakeoil 10/19/2022 2:20:58 PM (No. 1308954)
A problem that I'd have with an EV on a trip is what to keep someone from unplugging your EV while you sleep? The only good thing I can think is no one could siphon electricity from your vehicle.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 10/19/2022 2:24:31 PM (No. 1308956)
Yep, there are many hills between Cheyenne and Casper with a good chance of wind. And as Poster 3 said, “now add winter.”
FYI, there is an 80 MPH speed limit on I-25 between Cheyenne and Casper.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
SALady 10/19/2022 2:27:38 PM (No. 1308959)
No one is going to force you to buy an EV.
Gee #13, tell that to the peasants in Cubafornia (and several other lie-beral hell-hole states) that are mandating that no more gas-powered cars can be sold there by 2035. That sounds exactly like "forcing" people to buy electric cars to me!!!!!
I live in Austin, TX. We have a neighbor that works for Tesla (since they moved here to Texas from Cubafornia for the much better business environment and freedoms that we have here). He drives a Tesla around town and loves it. But he also has a nice 8-cylinder gas-powered crossover SUV that he uses for camping, cross country trips, and basically any time he has to drive more than 100 miles in a day. He admitted that electric car technology is not to the point where it is practical for anything but driving around town. That speaks volumes to me!!!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Californian 10/19/2022 2:33:58 PM (No. 1308969)
16, I already addressed California.
This is my last post. Have a nice day.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
CatyMac 10/19/2022 2:43:36 PM (No. 1308987)
Nuclear is the only solution to generate enough electricity at a low cost. Until the greenies realize their stupidity and go for nuclear, this ain't happening. (But logic just eludes them)
-Unless we get hydrogen powered vehicles instead.
Read 'Apocalypse Never' -Michael Shellenberger
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Msquared112 10/19/2022 2:43:37 PM (No. 1308988)
One of the best, most revealing things to happen in recent months is the combustion and explosions of EVs. This idea was not well thought out, was it?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
red1066 10/19/2022 2:54:54 PM (No. 1309001)
An expensive vehicle with a range of less than 250 miles that needs hours to recharge and can catch fire at any time. If automotive companies had come out over a hundred years ago with this type of vehicle, we might still be in the horse and buggy era and every car company would be out of business. Plus, the vehicle charge times will increase and the distance they travel will decrease over time. Also hope that you're not stranded in a snowstorm or caught in traffic for any extended period of time where heat is required. We saw that a couple of years ago in Virginia when EV drivers were knocking on the doors of tractor trailer drivers after their cars ran out of power looking for someplace warm to wait out the storm.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Snortleblatt 10/19/2022 3:09:17 PM (No. 1309008)
This is the reason I wouldn't own any EV other than a Tesla unless I never planned on leaving town. Tesla has built up the infrastructure to acceptable levels, and are quickly getting even better. We did have difficulty in Wyoming last year, but it was self-imposed, and the car told us how to recover (we drove about 140 miles at 45mph, would have been safe pushing it to 60, but caution ruled. Lessons learned...). Traveling the east coast 18 months ago was just plain pleasant. We stopped every 4-5 hours to charge, eat, and use facilities. By the time we were ready to hit the trail again, so was the car.
We also camped out in the car overnight the whole way. Sometimes in the boonies, sometimes at a campground. - where we could plug in to 240v and both charge and maintain comfortable temps. The whole trip cost us half what it would have in our previous minivan
We drive a 2021 Model X, rated at 370 miles (effective range per charge is really only a little over 300 miles). Don't believe all of the positive hype, but don't believe the naysayers either.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 10/19/2022 3:23:09 PM (No. 1309018)
Part of the plan is to stop people from being able to travel so no need for the long (normal) distance car. Last summer I drove to my summer vacation spot, drove over 900 miles in one day, no problem since I could fill up and do the other things in 5 mins. Speeds were around 80, temp 100F. My guess it would have taken 2-3 days with a EV.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
DVC 10/19/2022 3:24:22 PM (No. 1309019)
The Globalists really are unhappy that ordinary citizens with middle class incomes can hop in a car or truck and drive 700 or more miles in a day in comfort and convenience. They want this STOPPED.
EVs is the way to force us to stop traveling and stay close to home, and be more docile and more easily controlled.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
garyhope 10/19/2022 3:38:11 PM (No. 1309033)
Wow,... a blazing and high speed 11MPH. I amazed that the tires didn't melt from the high speeds. Leisurely trips are very relaxing. And think of all the time to think, relax, enjoy a nice breakfast, lunch and dinners. Most healthy walkers could have walked the same distance in about the same amount of time it took the so called electric car to drive there.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
MickTurn 10/19/2022 4:20:12 PM (No. 1309053)
Dude, It's NOT an EV, IT's a POS...Got it?
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Omen55 10/19/2022 4:20:18 PM (No. 1309054)
He should have ridden a Hogg.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
MDConservative 10/19/2022 4:36:28 PM (No. 1309061)
See, Alan's not a car guy. He bought his car after seeing an ad in the Sierra Club Magazine. Had he bothered to even look, he would have discovered the range of the vehicle before he bought one. One would think that anyone living much west of the Missisippi knows intercity distances there are fairly long, certainly longer than from Cambridge to Martha's Vinyard (about 85 miles + ferry crossing), for example. From Cheyenne to Caspar is 175 miles...and the rub, had Alan bothered to check, it that the advertised range for the 40kWh Leaf is 168 miles from a charge. Auto magazine tests have gotten about 160. Alan, 175 is more than 168 whichever math you use.
As far as EV vs others...what do you care what others drive. You don't like what about them being on the road. Whatever happened to individual choices and freedom and all that nonsense "real conservatives" espouse? If some fool wants to spend $38,000 on a Leaf, it's her money. My irritation is government providing any subsidy to buy any personal vehicle. More intervention in the marketplace.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
john56 10/19/2022 4:39:22 PM (No. 1309062)
The other day, a neighbor of mine who owns a Tesla was having their mobile service crew come to his house to perform some preventative maintenance on his Tesla EV.
Interesting thing. The van/truck that provides the mobile service isn't EV. It's gas powered. More reliabile, they say.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
rikkitikki 10/19/2022 5:01:52 PM (No. 1309078)
to #17:
I care what others drive only when their choice costs me money. By choosing to drive an EV, they will demand governmentally funded charging infrastructure.
And every cent spent by Federal, State, and local governments to prop up the economic and environmental disaster that is EVs is costing me money...along with every other taxpayer.
The issue threatens to become even more imposing on me, personally, if Gov Newsom's forced transition to EVs becomes a nationwide boondoggle.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 10/19/2022 5:07:24 PM (No. 1309084)
Well, maybe if you live in The Villages...
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
NamVet70 10/19/2022 5:25:56 PM (No. 1309101)
Usually when you pull into a gas stop on a trip in a gasoline powered auto, you have to wait maybe five or ten minutes to get to a gas pump and it then takes you maybe ten minutes to gas up and pay. Then you know you can drive over three hundred miles before you might need to get gas again. Imagine if you pull in driving an EV and find all the charging stations are full and several EV drivers are ahead of you in line for a charging station. Then you might have to wait two or three hours to get your turn and then it can take an hour for your vehicle to charge. This would be the best case situation if most drivers had electric vehicles and there were as many charging stations as there are now gas pumps. Of course that won't happen because the EV is not the future of driving for most of us. Only those who only need to make short trips in urban areas and can recharge at the home or office will be able to adapt to the EV life. Here is a link to a video that describes the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Yc783iZro&t=7s
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
swarfer 10/19/2022 5:42:41 PM (No. 1309113)
Obviously this was an exercise to point out the limitations of EVs. If you have a normal daily work commute and have a dedicated 220V outlet, your in fat city. Otherwise it is much more complicated affair until mass Level3 charging stations are everywhere. You will pay dramatically more for commercial charging than home charging, expect three to four times as much even if regulated.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 10/19/2022 6:04:33 PM (No. 1309118)
There is an emerging market for trailer-mounted electric generators capable of charging an EV that can be towed by an EV. Seems like a no-brainer. Come on Elon!!!! It's your next accessory for those Teslas!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/19/2022 7:26:25 PM (No. 1309167)
I have to question the intelligence of someone who first spends their money on a 'round town' vehicle and then takes a long trip in it.
PT Barnum was right.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
GirlwithaCurl 10/19/2022 7:44:02 PM (No. 1309179)
I had a great job, at one time, in the plant which makes the Leaf's batteries. Out of all of the employees at the plant, including the executives, there were only 2 Leaf's at the charging stations in the parking lot. Everyone else had gas powered cars. I guess the execs didn't believe in the product. The Japanese engineers who would come to visit didn't even drive them!
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
DVC 10/19/2022 11:34:34 PM (No. 1309348)
Re #13, ALL EVs are lies.
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