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School police chief who ordered cops NOT
to tackle Texas gunman: Pete Arredondo
is a former 911 dispatcher with an unremarkable
career who was elected to city council
just days before massacre

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Posted By: Imright, 5/27/2022 5:14:55 PM

Uvalde's school district police chief is under fire for refusing to let his officers engage the active shooter at Robb Elementary, after the gunman barricaded himself in a classroom and continued to fire at cowering kids as they called 911.During a bombshell presser Friday, Texas Department of Public Safety head Steven McCraw slammed Chief Pete Arredondo for failing to engage 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, mistakenly believing the teen had finished his killing spree and was hiding out from cops.'With the benefit of hindsight, from where I'm sitting now, of course it was not the right decision. It was the wrong decision, period,' McGraw said.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: 0658 5/27/2022 5:37:48 PM (No. 1167972)
Chief Pete Arredondo should be charged with Manslaughter for his part in these children's deaths. He was culpably negligent.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: LadyVet 5/27/2022 5:46:55 PM (No. 1167983)
And who was the person who, in a panic, left the door open? If they were running to get their phone, they knew there was trouble on the way, but made the decision that having their cell phone was more important than keeping the door locked. This was a critical point in this whole tragedy.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: watashiyo 5/27/2022 5:48:06 PM (No. 1167984)
Affirmative action has its consequences and at times the results are fatal.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Geoman 5/27/2022 5:54:22 PM (No. 1167988)
I can usually get a pretty good read into the make-up of small jurisdiction police chiefs by the uniforms and insignia they wear. Arredondo is the chief of a five-officer "department," yet he is sporting four silver stars on each of his epaulets, like the chiefs of New York, LA, Dallas, Miami, and other large multi divisional, 1,000+ officer departments wear. When I started in a 400 officer department, my chief, a very humble guy, only wore two stars as collar devices on his uniform. He only did that because his three assistant chiefs wore single stars. A week or so ago, I saw a small town chief on some news story sporting five stars arranged in a pentagon, like Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas McArthur, or Chester Nimitz wore during WWII. Seeing the five stars on the police chief immediately conveys the notion that the chief is play acting and that he/she is not to be trusted. This morning, after the statements made by the head of Texas DPS, the state police, who by the way, was wearing Eagles on his uniform, I theorized that the Uvalde ISD chief was not qualified to lead a multi-jurisdictional incident and should have been replaced as incident commander by the first competent "real Po-lice" official to arrive on scene. This calls for a state-wide revision of the near-universal, incident command systems employed by the majority of departments in the majority of states. Even within a single department, incident command is usually handed-off several times for major incidents, as higher ranking, more experienced police or fire officials make the scene. Patrol officers from the academy and throughout their careers, are trained to follow incident command procedures, particularly for incidents that involve multi-jurisdictional responses. In some cases the highest ranking officers on a scene may not relieve a lower ranking incident commander if that commander is doing a good job and/or has specialized knowledge or skills, such as SWAT or bomb disposal. I also believe that the cops standing outside of the school while the scene was hot aren't cowards but were failed by the on-scene command and control apparatus. This problem is infinitely fixable and it must be accomplished.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Laotzu 5/27/2022 6:02:14 PM (No. 1167993)
It's so refreshing to see an incompetent bureaucrat id'd so early in the reporting. Now tell me his what party he's affiliated with.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Luandir 5/27/2022 6:02:24 PM (No. 1167994)
Tar. Feathers. Rail.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: TXknitter 5/27/2022 7:14:27 PM (No. 1168050)
As the police chief in question has not yet tendered his resignation, it is pretty clear to me that #4 has a pretty accurate read on him.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/27/2022 7:37:33 PM (No. 1168084)
There is absolutely no evidence that Ramos barricaded himself in a schoolroom.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Kate318 5/27/2022 8:15:30 PM (No. 1168114)
Check the bank accounts of all involved.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Birddog 5/27/2022 9:15:04 PM (No. 1168151)
As bad as this sounds...apparently he was not on the scene, there was an "Incident Commander" that made the call, that person needs to be identified. The cop that drove right past the shooter...and didn't see or HEAR him...even though he was firing dozens of rounds into other classroom windows ...who then drove away, to the funeral home, needs to be identified...the teacher that propped the door open, went back inside for her cell phone, went back out and called 911...then when the shooter got closer ran back inside leaving the door propped open...needs to be identified. 3 of his five officers helped him run the "Active shooter" training at the school in was SWAT, and his wife is one of the teachers killed.. These cops didn't follow the training protocols, the teachers didn't either, except during class changes ALL doors are supposed to be closed and locked at all times. Dude never should have been able to get into the building, once he was in should never have been able to get into a classroom...doors are all steel, and strong enough to keep 20 cops out. One of the few cops outside by the windows(maybe the only one) didn't break the glass and try to shoot from there, didn't set up a cell phone to catch video to help feed the decision tree, sat and waited...his daughter was in the room and killed mere feet from him, he didn't know until later.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rumblehog 5/27/2022 9:56:39 PM (No. 1168169)
Hire a Mall Cop, get Mall Cop results.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Birddog 5/27/2022 10:54:54 PM (No. 1168195)
Uvalde cops on their facebook page are posed fully armored up, carrying m4's or Ar's, tac camo...looking like they are all SWAT...or a Seal Team.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 5/28/2022 12:39:40 AM (No. 1168229)
The school district police chief obviously did not have the training and experience to be the law enforcement incident commander over such a horrific occurrence such as this school shooting. For years now the law enforcement protocol during school shootings has been that once a school shooter discharges a firearm inside a school, the time for negotiating and talking to the perpetrator is over, with the immediate next step for law enforcement to take in such situations, especially if the lives of children are at risk, is to gain entry to the school immediately with such armed officers as are available, locate the perpetrator, confront him and if necessary kill him, as happened after a long delay, once the Border Patrol tactical team was finally authorized by the incident commander to do. The claim was that the perpetrator was barricaded in a classroom that caused the delay in gaining entry from an interior hallway, but all the classrooms appear to have windows all around the exterior of the building. In a case such as this, enough tear gas could have been fired through those windows into the classroom where the perpetrator was located within a minute or so to temporarily blind and disorient the perpetrator to where he would have no idea what was going on until he was quickly confronted, and either was captured or killed. Even if the children were also discomforted by the tear gas that discomfort would have been temporary and better than being left to bleed out and die.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: mifla 5/28/2022 5:30:08 AM (No. 1168311)
When poeple with no experience get placed into leadership positions, they get on the job training with often tragic results.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bighambone 5/28/2022 2:59:21 PM (No. 1168784)
People with no relative experience usually get put in critical government positions for one reason, partisan politics, and the Chief of the six person school police department who was the incident law enforcement commander, is a local yokel, who was apparently also just elected to be a Uvalde City Councilperson. So what does that tell you?
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