US provided Ukrainian military with real-time
info that allowed it to shoot down Russian
troop transporter carrying hundreds of
soldiers in early days of war
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Ronny Reyes
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
4/26/2022 11:51:18 PM
The U.S. has been feeding the Ukrainian military with real-time intelligence on Putin's war plan, which allowed Ukraine to shoot down a Russian transport plane carrying hundreds of troops in the early days of the invasion. Ukraine's successful attack on the Russian IL-76 transport plane near the Kyiv airport in February was conducted after receiving info from the U.S. in an unprecedented intelligence-sharing operation with a non-NATO partner, former and current U.S. officials told NBC. Two such planes were brought down around the same time. Details on which of the two aircraft were shot down thanks to US intelligence have not been shared.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Kafka2 4/27/2022 12:03:23 AM (No. 1139259)
If true, this is not something that should be blabbed to the media. Somebody needs to put a sock in it. Lose lips can get us in a hot war with Russia.
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...former and current U.S. officials told NBC.
Either:
1) Said officials - having acted on their own - need to be arrested and tried for leaking what is no doubt highly-classified information; or
2) Said officials were green-lighted by the administration to leak the info in order to get a rise (and possible reprisal) out of Putin, in which case they still need to be arrested and tried - along with their superiors.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 4/27/2022 2:25:31 AM (No. 1139290)
I had read that several Il-76s full of paratroops were shot down in night assaults in the first few days. An Il-76 can carry well over 100 paratroops, not clear how many were killed in those shoot-downs.
Of course, there were plenty of folks trumpeting that "Obvious Ukrainian lies" and "Russians wouldn't be that stupid" and such about these claimed shoot-downs. The photos of large pieces of clearly transport aircraft wreckage seemed pretty real to me, but many were certain that it was only propaganda. Shrug.
Some folks seem to have pretty vivid imaginations on this war, and want to invent a lot of things that aren't actually there, and then deny things that are clearly there like hundreds of burned out tanks and armored personnel carriers.
No doubt, it is difficult to know who is winning and who is losing, and definitely both sides will try to make their side look better in the media, but most of the time photos or videos do tell a story. Pretty difficult to fake a burned out Russian tank, dozens and dozens of times, and locations. A lot is drone videos, too. Again - seems real to me.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 4/27/2022 2:56:29 AM (No. 1139306)
I'd imagine that the Ukrainian radars could detect a huge, non-stealthy aircraft like an IL-76 at a range of 100 miles at altitude, and at least 5 miles at pretty low altitude. With any decent anti-aircraft missile systems,which Ukraine had at the beginning of the war - should have been a pretty likely to work shot.
I wonder if the US folks did provide the heads up - but perhaps it really didn't change anything. My bet is that the shoot-down was fairly likely to begin with.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
chumley 4/27/2022 6:02:00 AM (No. 1139374)
We are supplying Ukraine with weapons, supplies, training and intel. The only thing we aren't doing is pulling the triggers. If someone was doing that to us, I believe we'd call that being at war. We once again have meddled ourselves into being a legitimate target anywhere in the world.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 4/27/2022 7:54:26 AM (No. 1139452)
Forgive me, but I'm having a REAL hard time trying to root for either side in this 'war'.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
stablemoney 4/27/2022 9:29:50 AM (No. 1139558)
The U.S. under Biden and Blinken have declared war on Russia. There are going to be consequences to the U.S. I do not support any of these policies.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Birddog 4/27/2022 10:47:24 AM (No. 1139637)
When I was a little kid I had an "Uncle" that occasionally(rarely) dropped by, wild and crazy guy always brought small gifts from far off places. He worked(sort of) for an alphabet agency. NYT wrote some stories based upon Democrat leaked secret data exposing USA involvement/activities in the Congo(or maybe it was Angola) which caused the CIA to basically "Cancel" my uncle and his team while still "In Country" suddenly his contacts disappeared, radios went dead, phones turned off, no exit offered, they left him to the wolves with no way out. He figured out routes out for his team(who were primarily citizen of other nations) Then Boxed himself into a crate and shipped himself to Belgium. Upon landing he grabbed some cash and a "spare set" of documents and flew to DC, showed up at "Agency" headquarters and said "Hi there, we need to talk...or my next stop is the Washington Post/NBC/CBS/Wallstreet Journal". He basically "Retired" at that point though still received a hefty salary for the rest of his life. I think he must have still kept a "private" hand in the game because we still rarely saw him...and when we did he was always tan and carried gifts from strange places
Point being...Democrats have ALWAYS leaked secrets, be it pentagon papers, Contra rebels, seal team six, Tora Bora, This Story...sometimes to Humble Brag/Claim credit...sometimes to derail ops. Sometimes simply because they are so self centered they do not even realize their loose lips risk actual ships....and Human Lives.
For Democrats "Politics is WAR!...actual War is mere Politics"
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
woodenleg 4/27/2022 2:35:13 PM (No. 1139849)
I'm assuming we're giving Ukraine Intel in real time.
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Please, please, please can't we get in a hot war with Russia, all over a foreign entanglement that has nothing to do with the USA apart from crooked politicians taking bribes from a crooked nation and arms dealers thirsting for business? Think of the fortunes to be made and the populations to be culled.