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Why don’t liberals know what conservatives believe?

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Posted By: Imright, 10/11/2021 9:42:10 PM

Achieving compromise with one’s political opponents is difficult enough when you know what the other side wants. But identifying the possible grounds for political compromise is next to impossible if you don’t even know what your opponent is trying to achieve.Unfortunately, today’s liberals are so cocooned in their own media and higher education bubbles that they have no idea what their conservative compatriots even believe. Take two recent tweets by prominent liberal writers, the first by Princeton-educated Julia Ioffe, who has done work for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, and many other liberal outlets. Last week, Ioffe tweeted, “If you are anti-choice

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Come And Take It 10/11/2021 9:55:21 PM (No. 942557)
All I want as a conservative is to be left the hell alone by my government. Stop stealing my earnings, and get out of my day to day life. Your responsibility is to provide what is enumerated in the Constitution, and nothing more. That is what I want.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Catherine 10/11/2021 10:22:52 PM (No. 942576)
Middle American is presented and dufus rednecks in movies and TV. For 'sophisticated' people on both coasts, we are all too stupid to worry about. They know whats best and we should be oh so thankful to them. We are blatantly insulted daily. I know which group I think is the dumber.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney 10/11/2021 10:30:35 PM (No. 942580)
More perplexing, why can't liberals explain why they hate us, and why they oppose anything. I have never gotten an answer beyond conservatives are liars, no specifics as to where, or what. Everything I have heard from them sounded like it came from a brainwashed, spoiled, and babbling juvenile. I can say this for a certainty. They have zero understanding of economics, or its immutable laws--but I don't think they care. They don't seem to care about much, the country. They say they love people that hate them, don't live here, and carry machete's to behead them---but they hate taxpayers, parents, babies, the country, our forefathers, and the flag. No, I don't get liberals.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: red1066 10/11/2021 10:47:21 PM (No. 942601)
Why bother to try and learn or understand conservatives when you view conservatives as lower than scum and you feel you and your ideas are so superior.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 10/12/2021 3:06:37 AM (No. 942704)
A well known author friend once put it succinctly. "We know everything that they know, and they know nothing of what we know." They are woefully ignorant, yet imagine that they are just brilliant, know all the answers, but they are wrong.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Timber Queen 10/12/2021 3:45:47 AM (No. 942725)
Back in 2016/17, during the Trump campaign and early presidency, I was contacted by a retired teacher who was working on her masters in anthropology. She invited me to be part of her study group. Her topic was conservative women and their political viewpoints. At the group meeting her questions were obvious in bias that our opinions are controlled by our husbands. She was disabused of that idea very quickly. On the topic of "fake news", I pointed out that if we truly had a balanced media she would already be familiar with conservative viewpoints and wouldn't need to write an anthropological thesis about it. I also did a one-on-one interview with her. While discussing health care I described the Democrats as the "Death Party" and she was taken aback, "Why do you say that?" I replied, "They support abortion, assisted suicide and euthanasia." She responded with an open mouthed face. Later she sent me a copy of her thesis and the opening paragraph revealed her stunning findings; conservative women are fiercely independent and abortion is a really big issue! She warned that progressives should not be so confident abortion is a settled question. She saw the truth, but by the end she still regurgitated the party line. You can lead a prog to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: seamusm 10/12/2021 4:07:31 AM (No. 942737)
Liberals aren't simply ignorant of conservative views, their self-righteousness and moral certainty won't permit them to even respect the humanity of those who hold contrary views. Tragically it is a deliberate blindness and as pointed out the indoctrination which passes for education makes progressive views more deeply held the longer our children spend in school.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: ARKfamily 10/12/2021 6:33:26 AM (No. 942788)
"Why don’t liberals know what conservatives believe?" My answer: they are too self-absorbed. Think about it. They are desperately trying to take God out of society and want people to believe they are the party of "love, life, and light". In fact, all wisdom comes from God and really don't understand what love is from God's eyes. Love is putting self last - agape love. Everything about a liberal is about themselves.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Strike3 10/12/2021 6:54:51 AM (No. 942801)
This is where stupidity comes into play. Everything liberals want is either stupid, immoral or destructive.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Otis Gill 10/12/2021 7:22:59 AM (No. 942827)
Brainwashed by the MSM and consumed with hate for Trump.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Krause 10/12/2021 8:39:41 AM (No. 942898)
I find that all those on the left have a screw loose. Take a nicole wallace or a stelter. They hate Trump AND all the things he did, like creating jobs and a thriving economy, securing the border, etc. biden comes in and screws up everything, everything, just like obama said he's likely to do. Yet, wallace and stelter like what biden is doing! Are they that shallow, or dumb, that they couldn't get past the bombasticism and brashness of Trump's personal manner to notice what good things he did for American citizens? They are weird people.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Redwing57 10/12/2021 8:48:27 AM (No. 942905)
The left really are out of touch with anyone right of center. Clueless. An NPR-watching leftist I know was commenting about those people not wanting the covid vaccinations. He started going off, in a mocking arrogant way, that maybe, just maybe, if they could put the vaccination into beer, and put that in a can with a flag on it, maybe then they could reach the unvaccinated! He was serious, albeit in a mocking way. I jumped in, said that he has no idea why people don't want vaccinations. Consider that maybe, just maybe, people have genuine concerns, based on data. Maybe people doubt the veracity of those pushing them so vigorously. And so on. He had no response, and just clammed up.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: udanja99 10/12/2021 8:49:28 AM (No. 942908)
#11, President Trump tried to give the power back to the people and the left can’t abide by that. They think any power should be theirs alone.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Clinger 10/12/2021 8:59:22 AM (No. 942915)
I really need to begin to keep a reference file so I stand a slim chance of sounding credible. But think back to the number of articles you have read wherein a devoted wokeasaurus dares venture behind the flannel curtain to explore the deep dark world of conservative America following the knuckle drag marks into the den of deplorables. They are all stunned by kind friendly people with reason and reasons for believing as they do. The moral of the story; they actually believe their own Bull Shi t.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Peach1 10/12/2021 9:09:54 AM (No. 942928)
It’s simple; they don’t have God in their lives, therefore they have no joy. J - Jesus O - Others Y - You This is the order in which we live our lives. Put Jesus first, etc. Living our lives this way brings joy! This is what liberals are lacking, so they try to fill this void in their lives with just about everything that’s contrary to God.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/12/2021 9:32:11 AM (No. 942953)
Simple. It is called brainwashing of the liberal thinker. Operant conditioning - high tech style. And it is all courtesy of the social media and the way it uses artificial intelligence to manipulate the human mind. And all of this carefully erases anything spiritual from the human mind. Have you seen the movie, The Social Dilemma, lately?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Zigrid 10/12/2021 9:34:02 AM (No. 942956)
Darling little Julia...WE the people are all about ..."choice"....WE chose to not take an untested vaccine...WE choose to fairly elect our government...WE choose to be selective about our amorous adventures and personally pay for our mistakes...WE choose to select our children's education...you see honey...WE're all about free to choose....if you choose to remain with the "elites" then make demands of them and get your fingers off my pocketbook....
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Zumkopf 10/12/2021 9:38:57 AM (No. 942961)
Liberals find it far easier to knock down straw men than to coherently engage with their philosophical opponents. But most don’t even exercise enough brain cells to knock down straw men; they just tar conservatives as evil, and you don’t engage with evil, you destroy it. Conservatives make a fatal error in acting like the left wants, or even will, compromise.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: PeterWolosin 10/12/2021 10:01:07 AM (No. 942984)
Because most of them aren't very bright, and those who are don't care what anyone else thinks. Pretty simple.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/12/2021 10:01:09 AM (No. 942985)
I have known and seen many educated idiots. I don't have any as friends I jettisoned all of them many years ago I really can't say, "I had a discussion with a liberal friend the other day". I have no liberal friends. Like I did in the Obama era I do with all liberals I don't waste brains cells trying to figure them out or where they are coming from. All you have to do is listen to them speak for less that thirty seconds you will know they are liberal dunces. Every liberal is a pseudo intellectual but really dumb as a rock lacking any common sense.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: pmcclure 10/12/2021 12:26:44 PM (No. 943168)
This is because the current predominant leftist viewpoint is not based on facts or interpretations of them, but on doctrines. It is a variant of the godless Marxist religion.
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