Naval Intel reminds active duty, retired
members they cannot ‘disrespect’
Biden, Harris
BizPac Review,
by
Jon Dougherty
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
8/29/2021 4:11:39 PM
Active duty and retired members of the Office of Naval Intelligence were reminded last week they are barred by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other Department of Defense regulations from criticizing President Joe Biden and other ranking members of his Cabinet and the Pentagon.The memo, sent via email and first reported by The Daily Wire, was sent out by the ONI’s chief of staff following deadly suicide bombing attacks outside the international airport in Kabul which left 11 Marines, two Army soldiers, a U.S. Navy corpsman, and 169 Afghan civilians dead.In addition to Biden, members were instructed they also could not publicly criticize
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Sully 8/29/2021 4:28:01 PM (No. 897247)
They sure weren't doing that for the past 4 years. Anybody wanna see the quotes?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 8/29/2021 4:30:12 PM (No. 897249)
Office of Naval Intelligence where were you when the Vindman and Mattis were on the news?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 8/29/2021 4:33:00 PM (No. 897254)
Navy Intel, how come that panty waste Vindman wasn't told that? Why? It's because of the political double standard within the military.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
SALady 8/29/2021 4:33:16 PM (No. 897255)
These retired Navy personnel served their time protecting and defending the Constitution.
To Hell with the Office of Naval Intelligence for telling these brave men and women that they can't practice their 1st Amendment right to free speech!!!! And this is exactly what the 1st Amendment refers to -- the federal government controlling speech!!!!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Californian 8/29/2021 4:33:27 PM (No. 897256)
The fact they have to remind everyone of this is telling.
Whereas during Trump there were a few scurnbags looking to cash in, there must be a huge upswelling of hatred and disgust for this deranged old fool who was selected into office.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Nimby 8/29/2021 4:35:04 PM (No. 897260)
RESPECT is earned.
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That's what l've been saying number1. It’s all good if you slam President Trump. But NOooo if it's one of the ruling class even if they need criticism.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Sandpiper 8/29/2021 4:40:11 PM (No. 897274)
Hey! Where was this reminder when 700+ military leaders, both active and retired, complained about Trump!?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 8/29/2021 4:55:54 PM (No. 897291)
No lid can be placed on the families of the 13 fallen service members.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
cor-vet 8/29/2021 5:06:03 PM (No. 897295)
Ex Air Force here, so the Office of Naval Buffonery (sp) can kiss my rear end, and I will call that demented, lying POS coward, marine killing azzwipe whatever I want!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
snakeoil 8/29/2021 5:16:29 PM (No. 897300)
Wonder if Custer's men were reminded of this before the Little Big Horn.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
TXknitter 8/29/2021 5:17:47 PM (No. 897302)
So true #1! This makes me furious.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Foghorn 8/29/2021 5:19:05 PM (No. 897305)
More limiting freedom of speech is not the answer. Biden is not cognizant of his surroundings and may not be the one running the country. His statement about he was instructed to call on particular reporters is a strong indicator that he isn't in charge. His actions concerning Afghanistan were not appropriate for the situation and he should be impeached for going against the military and intel agencies and closing Bagram AFB. Wrong move at the wrong time.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
DVC 8/29/2021 5:35:01 PM (No. 897330)
Sorry, retirees are free to speak their minds in public. Active duty and reserves, not so much, "good order and discipline" and all that. But once you are out of uniform for good.....I'm pretty sure that your freedom of speech is renewed.
And even the wording of this mess only points to "ONI retirees" not "reflecting poorly on ONI". And not being able to hand out partisan literature.
I suspect that for retirees, this has never been tested in court. I wouldn't personally want to be that test case, but if it is tested, it seems likely that retirees should have their full civil rights as the civilians that they are.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
smokincol 8/29/2021 5:46:20 PM (No. 897344)
it was alright to do it when our President was in office but the good about all things in life - he will be back and there will be some very unhappy people, who deserve to be very unhappy, in our government
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Trump'sCousin 8/29/2021 5:56:14 PM (No. 897358)
But it was fine when President Trump was in office. Hopefully top military degenerates will be the first executed when the pendulum swing to a very hard right.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
FTCM 8/29/2021 5:56:51 PM (No. 897359)
Hey Naval disinformation, "Go to Hell"!!!
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
rikkitikki 8/29/2021 5:58:33 PM (No. 897361)
The mere fact that the DOD issued this 'reminder' is a virtual admission that America's Armed Forces are awash in Wokism, and, as Trump said it so well, wokism is for losers.
Not to worry....I'll disrespect Traitor Joe Xiden and Heels Up Harris enough that no former line officers will need to.
The thing is, one need not be creative...simply exposing the lies of Xiden and Heels Up is all it takes...no further disrespect needed.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
downnout 8/29/2021 5:58:46 PM (No. 897362)
GTH, Navy.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
stablemoney 8/29/2021 6:13:18 PM (No. 897386)
You cannot order someone not to disrespect you. You can issue an order, but the disrespect is still there. Milley, Austin, Pentagon, State Dept, Intelligence, Justice, the whole government, national, state, and local -- you have lied, turned against the citizens of this country, and now they will turn against you.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/29/2021 6:19:28 PM (No. 897392)
What did they do about all those who disrespected President Trump?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
columba 8/29/2021 6:20:46 PM (No. 897397)
Constitution? We don't need no constitution.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/29/2021 6:29:39 PM (No. 897407)
Retired officers are still subject to the USMCJ if they continue to draw retirement pay. Thus they must not criticize the President and a list of other officials. Read on:
Both Articles 2 and 88 have been held by the courts to pass constitutional muster, including the First Amendment’s freedom of expression. Whether a general’s statement about Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s handling of the war in Iraq violates Article 88 would have to be determined by a court-martial.
The solution for a retired officer concerned about violating Article 88 but feeling compelled to speak out would be to resign his or her commission and forfeit military retirement. Drawing one’s military compensation means you are agreeing to remain subject to the UCMJ.
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.roa.org/resource/resmgr/LawReviews/2006/0615-LR.pdf
Rather than winging it and ending up wrong, why not look these things up? It’s not hard.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
TarAndFeathers 8/29/2021 6:35:56 PM (No. 897414)
#23: does that proscription extend into the voting booth?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 8/29/2021 7:05:28 PM (No. 897446)
Speak UP! It's no long worth serving under such a VILE Commander in Chief as Bidet.
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I’ll give up my pension.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
jinx 8/29/2021 7:56:27 PM (No. 897501)
But, but, but they could when Pres. Trump was in office and out of office and even before he went in.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
wilarrbie 8/29/2021 8:10:05 PM (No. 897513)
Good thing your orders don't apply to non-military citizens. So EF all of you. We see what you've done and we are smart enough to make the distinction. I shall support every single enlisted who tells you to your face you are F O S. And I hope you have a full scale rebellion on your hands for being such feckless sacks of Shiff.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Norway 8/29/2021 8:33:04 PM (No. 897523)
Sorry NI...once retired you can kiss their butts.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Italiano 8/29/2021 8:40:01 PM (No. 897528)
Kind of ironic, considering that Biden and Harris hate and disrespect each other.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Obviousity 8/29/2021 9:04:18 PM (No. 897536)
Woodward, of Watergate fame, was Navy Intelligence.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
rochow 8/29/2021 9:40:00 PM (No. 897561)
The Navy and Army will find out that volunteers for them will be way down very soon!
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Old Army Vet 8/29/2021 9:50:44 PM (No. 897568)
You should have heard the comments about LBJ when I was serving and I'm not just talking about the enlisted ranks either. I don't recall anyone saying anything about disrespect then.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
rytwng 8/29/2021 10:08:59 PM (No. 897578)
Buck Fiden.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 8/29/2021 10:49:27 PM (No. 897609)
I was not aware that retired military personnel were slaves for life. Since when does the Government have the power to control the minds of those they no longer employ? If it’s in the UCMJ then it needs to be struck down as unconstitutional.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
bighambone 8/29/2021 10:57:20 PM (No. 897615)
How would they recall hundreds of thousands of retired veterans back on active duty and court marshal them? If that happened it would tie up the military justice system indefinitely with many of the officers on the future court marshal boards sympathizing with the defendants with many of them employing the military version of civilian jury nullification to dump those cases in file #13.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
pmcclure 8/29/2021 11:24:29 PM (No. 897628)
And just how can they respect these despicable creatures?
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
mifla 8/30/2021 5:13:55 AM (No. 897744)
You mean like when Trump was President? Pretty sad when you have to make an announcement such as this.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
john56 8/30/2021 8:29:40 AM (No. 897861)
I doubt they used Lt Col Oh Say Can You See Vindaman as an example (RIP Rush for the moniker) of disrespect.
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