Pull Out From Afghanistan Signals End
of ‘Liberal World Order'
The Epoch Times,
by
Michael Walsh
Original Article
Posted By: markantony,
8/17/2021 11:44:04 AM
If President Joe Biden’s no-questions-please press conference on the collapse of the American puppet government in Afghanistan and the end of the American imperium in the Middle East felt like a funeral, that’s because it was. The ignominious defeat after 20 years of fruitless, half-hearted warfare marks the end of the federal geopolitical Leviathan state that emerged during and in the aftermath of World War II. Good riddance to it. It’s fitting that the end should come with Biden [snip]
Over the past seven months as chief executive, however, he has ruined the economy, expanded the welfare state, encouraged anarchy, criminalized dissent,
You think this changes anything where globalists are concerned? That's a nice pipe dream, but communists never stop striving for world communism.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Laotzu 8/17/2021 11:55:47 AM (No. 882508)
Nothing has changed.
There is an internecine contest going on. On one hand you have the big government, defense industrial complex egging on pro-democracy hawks under the delusion you can teach liberal democracy to trialists.
On the other hand, you have the social justice warrior industrial complex egging on the anti-American Marxists, under the delusion that America is evil and much better off with racial tribalism.
The latter won this round. In either case, government always gets bigger, and somebody always gets richer because of federal government activism.
The only solution -- advocated by nobody on the scene -- is to reduce the US federal government back to its historic federal role.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
pros7767 8/17/2021 11:57:07 AM (No. 882512)
None of these Generals would have the balls to meet with Gold Star Families!
Their sons and daughters had more guts than any of these pussy arsed generals. If they had to fight there wouldn’t be any wars!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
montwoodcliff 8/17/2021 12:06:53 PM (No. 882518)
Well said! This is called a reset. Trump would do this, and maybe DeSantis. Don’t forget to add term limits to the program, but that’s another story.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Quigley 8/17/2021 12:22:13 PM (No. 882531)
There’s a lot to discuss here but it won’t be discussed.
First and foremost is that if we retreat to our borders- something I would dearly love to do- the bad guys will come to us. The George bush premise that we must stop them years before they start to smuggle a nuke into our cities is not wrong.
Or maybe if we mind our business they’ll mind theirs- but I doubt it. I doubt minding our own business is even an option today. There is also China.
But we need to get rid of the feckless Deep State- which perhaps is nothing other than people who have been in place for so long they can completely outmaneuver any attempt at reform, and they are people who greatly need to be reformed.
Trump was the Reformer. Bi.den is the quintessential Deep State clown/stooge. He’s been there forever and he’s beyond reform.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
PlayItAgain 8/17/2021 12:34:09 PM (No. 882539)
I have to agree with Biden's criticisms of the Afghans themselves.
They are human beings, men and women, and they bear some responsibility for either creating or adopting a culture that allows them to be free and secure. They have refused to do this for decades if not for hundreds of years. Whatever culture there was in Afghanistan wasn't worth protecting.
Also keep in mind, the West didn't destroy Afghanistan, the Taliban did.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 8/17/2021 12:42:07 PM (No. 882546)
But - - but - - but what about Vindman - - and Fiona Hill - - and all those elite "intelligence" experts? They're so much smarter than we are. How will we know anything without them? How will we know what to do?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
kono 8/17/2021 12:43:16 PM (No. 882547)
Must disagree with the main point; this is not the end of Liberal World Order, but a re-deployment to resume the process. The Left's focus will be on flipping the US into a full-blown Socialist Utopia (i.e. state-managed universal wokenness and poverty), after which point they will return their focus on the global spread with gusto. The extermination of resistance will commence once they have disarmed us (or as a part of the disarmament process).
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
bassman 8/17/2021 1:09:57 PM (No. 882578)
America disgraced? Seems to me that's a win for the liberal loonies.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 8/17/2021 1:36:08 PM (No. 882612)
The Author is naive. The Military Industrial Complex is still alive and kicking. The MIC wont go away without a fight. The MIC is Deep State.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
red1066 8/17/2021 1:53:59 PM (No. 882637)
The trouble with liberals/socialists/communists is that they never get the message. So this set back to communist hell won't faze them a bit. They'll just move on to the next opportunity to control people.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 8/17/2021 2:12:39 PM (No. 882662)
Walsh, the new world order now known as the liberal world order is being replaced with the Great Reset. So we haven't gained squat. So it remains a two-horse race for world domination - the GR crowd vs. the chicom/russkie/muslim crowd. But, there is one small problem here. The Rothchild family who own and control most of the worlds wealth and central banks. They will get the last word which crowd wins.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Mr C 8/17/2021 2:13:09 PM (No. 882664)
Are you sure it was old Slow Joe that did all that?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
MDConservative 8/17/2021 2:19:11 PM (No. 882669)
The author and I are in complete agreement until...he blames the American lack of will to fight. Last time I looked, the Afghans has 20 years to reform its society, government, and build a capable military...at the expense of $6.7 TRILLION US dollars and nearly 3000 lives.
Biden is correct saying, “We gave them every tool they could need … every chance to determine their own future. What we could not provide them was the will to fight for that future.”
People have the roles reversed in this "war". The Afghans were the home team. They were not OUR allies, but we were theirs. And this is how it ends - and would have ended whether five years ago or five hence. Americans were bamboozled by the rug merchants and kebob shop chefs, and we hate to admit it. Let's give it one more try to save the country, some are saying...no, really.
One...two...three...what were we fighting for? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn. After twenty years in Afghanistan. Thank God that's over.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
MickTurn 8/17/2021 2:38:38 PM (No. 882690)
I think the entire DNC should be sent to Afghanistan to fight with the Taliban...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Penney 8/17/2021 2:41:13 PM (No. 882695)
Brett Baier on FOX is reporting that Biden hasn't even talked to other world leaders, although many of them are also in Afghanistan, since the country fell. Biden remains AWOL.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bad-hair 8/17/2021 4:40:12 PM (No. 882806)
FTA ... “We go forward with complete confidence in the eventual triumph of freedom,” Bush said in his second inaugural address in 2005
Sure thing. Freedom triumphed in Viet Nam, Cuba, Afghanistan, even Iraq ???
During my lifetime I would settle for it to triumph in the USA.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bighambone 8/18/2021 12:55:37 AM (No. 883334)
When you go to war against a primitive force such as the Taliban, who along with their forefathers have been fighting almost continuously for a thousand years and only understand force. The only way you can defeat them is by being tougher than they are, using total war strategies and tactics designed to annihilate them. This caper in Afghanistan using limited war strategies and tactics designed to turn Afghanistan into another place like Vermont is always going to be a loser.
I believe that some Russian Generals with combat experience in primitive Afghanistan, appeared on TV right after the USA invaded Afghanistan and told the USA that if they used the liberal limited war strategies that the Western Democracies have been deploying since the Second World War that the USA would not be successful fighting the primitive Taliban.
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Good-by and good riddance to all that.