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Donald Trump Should Not be the
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Posted By: Magnante, 5/18/2021 8:19:37 AM

I voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 because he was the best candidate. I did not vote for him because he was perfect. If he is the Republican candidate in 2024, I will vote for him again, because it is inconceivable that any Democrat Marxist in the known universe will be acceptable. But I pray that he is not available to receive my vote. (snip) Ron DeSantis has proven himself to be the “non-Trump” Trump. He stands for the America First agenda and gets a lot of it done. He doesn’t take crap from opponents but refuses to engage in petty squabbles.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: spacer 5/18/2021 8:36:45 AM (No. 789188)
President Trump had failings. Mr. Noel could have inserted Lincolns name in his list of bad choices made by a president. His last comment seems to say a second term President Trump wouldn't learned from past mistakes. I think he is wrong. A second Trump presidency would change the world for the best sense of the word.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Moritz55 5/18/2021 8:44:32 AM (No. 789201)
This discussion is very premature. A lot will happen in the next few years, much of it unpredictable. I suggest we all wait until at least 2023 before weighing in on who’d be the best candidate to clean up the Democrats’ mess.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 5/18/2021 8:53:41 AM (No. 789214)
The writer makes a very good, valid point. I am not sure that I agree with him, but going in to the 2024 primaries. it is an argument which needs to be made and addressed. However, the question is really twofold. The first part is, will Donald Trump be able to do a better job selecting people to staff his administration who will advance his agenda than he did the first time? The second part is, will someone with better knowledge of the people from whom Administration staff can be selected actually try to accomplish what Donald Trump attempted?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: RayLRiv 5/18/2021 9:07:08 AM (No. 789233)
I understand what Dr. Noel is saying here. If Trump were to run again he needs non-Swamp competent people who are loyal to him, outsiders who won't stab him in the back. There needs to be a massive bloodletting or purge of all departments and agencies first so Trump can accomplish what he needs to do for this nation and not be obstructed or hindered.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Laotzu 5/18/2021 9:07:54 AM (No. 789235)
DeSantis looks the inevitable Alpha now, but never forget, DeSantis squeaked out only a 33,000 vote win in a 8+ million vote race. He won against a corrupt mayor, who was shortly thereafter found in a threesome in a hotel with a drugged up, dead male hooker instead of at home with his wife and kids. Try throwing something more substantial at DeSantis than a closeted, drug-addled, kleptocratic homosexual (like the CIA, the FBI, the Justice Department, an independent counsel, and every agency of the federal government) and I'll start listening to how incredible Ron DeSantis is in comparison to Trump.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: john56 5/18/2021 9:11:22 AM (No. 789242)
Some valid points. The question I have for President Trump, if he should choose to run in 2024, is how will you come into office on January 20, 2025 and ready to clean house. Some of the personnel issues can be explained by 1. He's new at the political game 2. He got some bad advice (and maybe didn't listen to some good advice) and 3. The Swamp is really, really deep. He doesn't have those excuses next time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: ramona 5/18/2021 9:13:17 AM (No. 789247)
President Trump (and the rest of us) suffered the effects of his many self-inflicted wounds. On the other hand, he could have been perfect (like Mitt Romney. . .) and the left/press would still have crucified him. Trump has the charisma and the spine to do what needs to be done. I can't think of another Republican or Conservative who comes close. Ramona (the Pest)
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Reply 8 - Posted by: FunOne 5/18/2021 9:15:01 AM (No. 789248)
America is in dire need of Trump leadership, and for that matter, so are the citizens of the world who thirst for freedom. President Trump was criminally cheated out of a second term in 2020, and if there is truly justice in the world, he must return to the White House to clean up the mess and find a team that will pursue the corruption of the democrats. As an outsider, he was unable to verify the character of many of his appointees, but now he knows who the backstabbers are and who he can trust. Ron DeSantis as well as many other republican governors have proven their competence during the past few years, and all of them have a bright future ahead, but at this point, I have to pledge my full support to President Trump.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Safari Man 5/18/2021 9:16:13 AM (No. 789249)
Until we correct the election integrity situation, it simply doesn’t matter who the GOP puts up, dims win. Any other discussions exist only under the pretense that Biden actually won 2020. Such head-in-the-sand thinking only helps the dims.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 5/18/2021 9:20:39 AM (No. 789256)
I understand the author's point, especially as regards personnel/policy implementation. DeSantis has to get re-elected in 2022 first, and though I am not a Floridian, I would prefer he win...serve a dynamic 4 years until Jan 2027...and then succeed Pres. Trump in 2028 when he will still only be 50 years old...a young man who could then hopefully serve 2 terms should he be all that a lot of us think he is and will be.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/18/2021 9:22:30 AM (No. 789259)
Just look at what all the tyrants did while Trump was president: They used COVID to destroy our economy, they wasted huge amounts of time and money just trying to remove Trump from office, we had a summer of riots, and the media lead the assault. Whoever we elect will have to be able to withstand the tyrants. Only God knows what the tyrants will do next. Most people would wither under the leftist assault. Even Trump wasn't completely successful. In the end they did get him out of office. If Trump does run again, he will have to change his strategy. its true he had a terrible time finding reliable help in Washington. Why he never fired Fauci I will never understand. Still think Trump is our best option, but will be looking at all other possibilities. Anyone running for President will likely have to start laying the groundwork in 2022 if not sooner. Just the way our political environment works. Wait too long, and the train leaves without you. That being said, alot is going to happen over the next few years. Our country is in turmoil.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: dst4life 5/18/2021 9:26:57 AM (No. 789266)
FTA: But I pray that [Trump] is not available to receive my vote. What does the author hope will be Trump's status in 2024? Incarcerated? In prison? In exile? In Guantanamo Bay? Where? Is there any other way the author could have phrased things other than "not available?"
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Reply 13 - Posted by: lakerman1 5/18/2021 9:50:41 AM (No. 789291)
I like Dr. Noel. He was accurate in his assessment of Lady Lucifer's health in 2016, and I hope he analyzes Dementia Jo's condition soon. I also agree that DJT's HR decisions were not good. The problem faced by any outsider is that his closest aides will be deficient in the ways of the Deep State. Jimmy Carter found that out quickly, when his closest assistants were savaged by the Swamp. (Hamilton Jordan was openly called Hamilton Jerkoff by the Speaker of the House.) How about a ticket comprised of DJT and DeSantis, with DeSantis as VP taking on the HR function?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: starboard 5/18/2021 10:00:04 AM (No. 789303)
By the time we are ready to start considering the 2024 election, the Biden Administration will have all but handed a victory to the Republicans. I love President Trump and will vote for him again. However, he will be 78 and may want to become a Kingmaker. Ron deSantis looks certain to be on his way to the White House. Not because he wants that position, but because he's a natural leader and a great decision maker. Honestly, he's the candidate that's the perfect package. Who do the Democrats have?... They have young screwed up minds and corrupt old hags. The destruction to our economy will be what brings in a landslide victory to the Republicans. It may be painful, but we will survive and win. Also, we will have the majority in the House and Senate as well. The move is on folks. People are unhappy and we won't put up with being lied to and having our country destroyed by a senile old man and his Marxist admin. Joe Biden will leave office with his tail tucked between his legs. We have to do whatever it takes to eliminate the mainstream media and do it fearlessly ... like Trump did so well. Along with America First, we need to push hard to eliminate everything associated with the CCP and the Big Tech oligarchs. The Rinos will become Dinos and as we take control from the ground up and bring justice, sanity and dignity back to our country. This is our country not yours. Basically, we can start right now by getting involved on the local level with our precincts, churches, schools and grass root organizations. There are many unhappy old time Democrats looking for a place to feel safe. We need to act like adults and bring those folks into the American First movement and save our country. Let's roll.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: beca 5/18/2021 10:05:02 AM (No. 789309)
I don’t want any advice from Mr Noel. Not now not ever.,,,He has my vote if he runs Especially if Desantis is his running mate... pence is OUT!!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Surroundedbyblue 5/18/2021 10:14:59 AM (No. 789322)
If 2020 is allowed to stand, there will never be a Republican President again (not that it would be a bad thing, as we’ve seen), the Republicans are as corrupt than the Dems,. They just aren’t honest about it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: gop_guys 5/18/2021 10:17:03 AM (No. 789324)
What 9 said in spades.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: FormerDem 5/18/2021 10:18:01 AM (No. 789325)
I do support him because he did a good job last time, for the most vulnerable. our vote is not just a symbol, it is a choice of the person who can get it done. Nobody else ever closed the gap on rich-poor incomes the way he did. Nor employment of African-Americans, which has now got worse again. And despite a lot of talk nobody did as much for pro-life. my vote is not a symbol of values I wish to sing a song about. it is my power to solve these things. Gonna use it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: TLCary 5/18/2021 10:20:15 AM (No. 789328)
This is war, everyone gets that by now, right? Trump winning by a massive number of votes, (even more than Dominion computers can generate) is the only clear and decisive "NO!" that the American Electorate has. Anything else is empowering these Marxists by letting them chose who can and can not lead our country. Learn something from their successes, don't negotiate. There is no middle ground with people who want to destroy you and your way of life.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: PCMM 5/18/2021 10:30:44 AM (No. 789338)
Get this in your heads once and for all: Donald Trump was in it for Donald Trump the entire time. He thinks his voters are idiots and he might be right (I voted for him twice). The Republican’ts hit an all-time low in talent/personnel and left a void for someone like Trump to fill. I no longer want to hear a damned thing from the former Democrat who left D.C. to be controlled by the Democrats. He appointed absolute louts to important positions repeatedly and allowed Fauci to destroy the nation. A pathetic legacy.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 5/18/2021 10:41:19 AM (No. 789351)
DeSantis is good but he's still Number 2. If the election process is not made foolproof then ANY Democrat Marxist can and will win.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/18/2021 10:44:00 AM (No. 789354)
I'm hoping he does not run again too, but only because it would counter one of the main arguments from democrats against any Republican. Take away one of their main talking-points. Much will be determined based on cleaning up the voter rolls to ensure they are up-to-date and have removed any/all dead people and those who have moved. Will also need to ensure any drop box maintains full chain of custody of the ballots inside(which must contain the envelope too, not just the ballot). Also, will depend on the 2022 elections, and if the GOP can re-take the House and maintain the Senate. Plus, President Trump needs to stop trying to comment on the 2020 election with definitive statements, but maybe should simply be asking questions instead.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: red1066 5/18/2021 11:02:30 AM (No. 789382)
I just don't know if Trump will want to run again. His entire family went through hell just because the MSM didn't like him. Trump has created a plan for future Republican candidates to run on, and he likes to have rallies and meeting people, but I really don't think he'll want to put Melania and Barron through another four years like the last four years.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/18/2021 11:21:44 AM (No. 789413)
I agree with poster 10. I like DeSantis, but I don't think its time. As for Trump and the swamp: it would be a good thing to throw every last non-elected official out of their jobs. The resultant chaos would be a good destruction as we shed the useless and the grifters and discover what is really necessary in the government. And FIRE, with prejudice every military officer who sucked up to the Democrats and didn't resist CRT.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 5/18/2021 11:28:29 AM (No. 789434)
Donald Trump should be House Speaker. I recently became aware that the speaker of the House does not have to be an elected member of the House of Representatives. This would be too sweet!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: planetgeo 5/18/2021 11:32:12 AM (No. 789440)
Actually, I agree with the author. I not only voted for Trump but thought he was the most courageous and consequential President in terms of policy in my lifetime. But this country needs new leadership. Trump will be 78. That's too old for ANY person to be President of the United States, and everyone at or 4 years over that age knows it. At the moment, DeSantis appears to have many of the strengths of Trump with few if any of his weaknesses. But let's see how he develops and responds to the threats he's going to face, as well as to the needs of his state. And there may yet be other new leaders that will emerge. This country desperately needs not just one new leader, but many of them, in all walks of life, not just government. It's time for everyone to step up and be ready to push back the leftist efforts to take complete control of this country.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: keep_right 5/18/2021 11:55:54 AM (No. 789476)
Totally premature discussion. Like No. 9, nothing matters regarding candidates or fundraising until our country reestablishes election integrity AND every participant in fraud is prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This is our banner cry to every Republican fundraising call we receive.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: DVC 5/18/2021 12:19:00 PM (No. 789500)
Yes, he should. And I think it is very likely that he will run, will be re-elected.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: cold porridge 5/18/2021 12:20:54 PM (No. 789503)
#20 said "Get this in your heads once and for all: Donald Trump was in it for Donald Trump the entire time. He thinks his voters are idiots and he might be right" I totally disagree with #20. You sound like a never-Trumper. Go join the democrats.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: RuckusTom 5/18/2021 12:29:41 PM (No. 789517)
#14 mail in ballots, vote harvesting might cause much different results. Top that off with amnesty and republicans are going to have a tough row to hoe.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/18/2021 1:31:11 PM (No. 789572)
There will be a Republican primary for Republican voters to choose their nominee. Trump is going to run. Anyone wanting to challenge him can file their paperwork, and the voters can decide the outcome. I doubt DeSantis would run, if Trump decides to do so. DeSantis is still young, and has plenty of time.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: DVC 5/18/2021 1:57:38 PM (No. 789598)
#20 is totally full of beans.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: anniebc 5/18/2021 2:32:44 PM (No. 789633)
Not a necessary conversation at this time, Ted. Next. . .
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Geoman 5/18/2021 2:37:03 PM (No. 789643)
Contrary to popular opinion, I believe that if Trump gets another term as president, he needs to find and employ a cadre of competent, non-swamp dwelling insiders (they do exist) that know how government works, especially with regard to acquisitions and personnel matters. Trying to change things without insider knowledge is like piloting your large ship into a small foreign harbor without using a local harbor pilot. Navigating the sand bars and currents of DC requires more than a little specialized knowledge to be most effective. In 2017, it appears that Trump was failed by his transition team, who weren't well versed on holdovers and "nesting," where Schedule C political appointees from an outgoing administration are converted to career employees, where they are in a position to subvert a new administration's agenda.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: local500 5/19/2021 8:30:24 PM (No. 791024)
Hey Ted Noel, most of us never heard of you. We'll vote for President Trump. If you don't like it, join the democratic party.
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 5/21/2021 1:34:05 PM Post Reply
It seems like a crazy urban legend: In China, drivers who have injured pedestrians will sometimes then try to kill them. And yet not only is it true, but it’s also fairly common; security cameras have regularly captured drivers driving back and forth on top of victims to make sure that they are dead. The Chinese language even has an adage for the phenomenon: “It is better to hit to kill than to hit and injure.” In contrast in our country, BLM regularly blocks roads and in most situations, the drivers are the ones that took the hit.
Breaking Video: Kamala Harris
Insults South Korean President
By Wiping Her Hand Off
After Shaking His Hand
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 5/21/2021 6:35:08 PM Post Reply
Kamala had a lot more contact with foreign leaders, but she is a total disaster just like her Commander-In-Chief. On Friday once again served as President Biden’s opening act ahead of his second foreign-leader visit to the White House.
LA Times Op-Ed: The Evidence Is Clear...The
Lockdowns Didn't Trash the Economy
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Posted by ladydawgfan 5/21/2021 7:19:27 AM Post Reply
Whoever wrote this is on bath salts. Is this for real? I mean I know media bubbles are dense, but this is something else. This is not even grounded in reality, folks Apparently, the COVID lockdowns didn’t trash the economy and it saved lives. Both are demonstrably false. That’s the hottest of hot takes regarding the virus. Dare I say, it may be worse than what Anthony Fauci has said about the vaccine and mask-wearing. It could rival that, maybe. The fact is that millions of jobs were lost, mental health issues spiked, our children weren’t learning, people did die, and the lockdowns didn’t do anything to stem that.
Bill Barr says progressive agendas in schools
are unconstitutional and are creating 'militantly
secularist government-run' classrooms
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Posted by Imright 5/21/2021 4:25:56 PM Post Reply
Former Attorney General Bill Barr denounced what he called 'militantly secularist government-run schools' as the greatest threat to religious liberty in the country as he made his first speech since leaving government.'The time has come to admit that the approach of giving militantly secularist government schools a monopoly over publicly funded education has become a disaster,' he said.Instead he made the case that school choice vouchers may offer parents the best protection from curricula designed to indoctrinate children with a radical, secular theology.Barr proved one of former President Donald Trump's most controversial
New York Attorney General James
unveils bill to limit cops’ use of force
to standard of ‘absolute last resort’
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Posted by NorthernDog 5/21/2021 4:45:54 PM Post Reply
New York Attorney General Letitia James introduced a measure Friday that would tighten the rules governing the use of force by law enforcement. It would lower what her office calls the “exceedingly high standard for prosecuting police officers” who wrongly take excessive or lethal actions. The centerpiece of the legislation would change the use-of-force law “from one of simple necessity to one of absolute last resort, mandating that police officers only use force after all other alternatives have been exhausted,” James’ office said in a press release. James at a press conference Friday afternoon invoked the memories of George Floyd
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