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Are Republicans serious about
defending your right to bear arms?

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Posted By: GO3, 5/8/2021 5:41:00 PM

Twenty states have passed "Constitutional Carry" laws in anticipation of another Democrat gun grab. While open carry and concealed carry without permit is a shot across the bow, let's not get misty. Gun control is one of two issues Republicans roll out every election, abortion being the other one, even though they lost that. They also lost on marriage. Why tempt fate? Because Republicans think their constituents are knuckle-dragging white supremacists and religious fanatics. They won't say that. They just let Democrats say that unchallenged.

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Ward makes some good points, particularly about Republicans using a pro-gun rights stance when elections roll around. This is what Abbott and the Republican controlled legislature are doing to distract from their lousy performance during the winter storm and the response, not to mention the oppressive nature of Covid counter-measures . Ward is also correct that the training required to get a CCW was a plus in terms of firearms proficiency and use of deadly force IAW state law. We can all stand up and cheer about constitutional carry, but what crises will Abbott use next to squash those rights via EO? And BTW, HJR 42, limiting the time period the governor has to issue EOs in times of emergencies without legislative review has yet to come out of committee as far as I can tell.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Italiano 5/8/2021 5:53:36 PM (No. 779306)
Doesn't matter. I am. Try me.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 5/8/2021 5:57:08 PM (No. 779315)
Interesting commentary, and I do NOT trust many Republicans, especially at the national level. However, the author is miles off base when he assumes that Constitutional Carry will cause ignorant fools with guns to go around causing problems. Hard facts from many years of many states having concealed carry, with and without a paper "permission slip" show that legally armed adults are extremely safe individuals. The number of accidental shootings and 'bad shootings', meaning shooting someone who didn't fall under the "self defense exception" for homicides, are extremely low. Six years in Kansas...with a media just panting to find "some damned gun nut" guilty of a crime or incompetence.....crickets. It does NOT happen. Just like the anti-gun folks' tearful claims that "if you pass concealed carry, there will be nutcases shooting someone over a parking space".....and it DID NOT happen. Look at the facts and judge people who choose to be legally armed. Many of them have come to instructors like me for instruction, even though not required by law, it was required by their personal standards and consciences. The criminal lunatics......yep, and they have ALWAYS been armed, mostly illegally.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ribicon 5/8/2021 6:28:22 PM (No. 779358)
Maybe I'm tired, but this piece seems to be a scattershot ramble. Who banned importation of an entire class of semiautomatic "assault rifles?" Why, none other than Republican George H.W. Bush. Who enacted a permanent ban on AR-15s in Massachusetts? None other than Pierre Delecto, aka Republican Mitt Romney. The writer praises the old Texas requirement that pistol permit applicants had to qualify on a range with each individual handgun they desired to carry, which is an outlandish overreach. "Quick draw" carry permit holders who defend themselves against attackers have nothing to do with the persecution of Derek Chauvin, which in turn has nothing to do with gun control.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 5/8/2021 6:53:58 PM (No. 779389)
What #1 said. Feel lucky.....punk ?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: GO3 5/8/2021 9:03:46 PM (No. 779477)
Agree, we here on this board and other like minded folks will carry regardless. I think his main point is beware the gun rights push as a distractor, which is what's going on now in Texas. Intersting he mentions abortion, because as I pointed out earlier, the Omnibus SB1647 which includes three pro-life bills as important as these are, appears to me as the same strategy to burnish conservative credentials without tackling executive emergency powers and disaster screw-ups. And finally, I need to bust a Texas myth and legend concerning gun rights. Texas did not have a CCW until the late 90s when a courageous woman by the name of Suzanna Gratia Hupp won election to the Texas House in 1996 and pushed the CCW bill through to signature. Her parents were killed in the Luby's massacre in Killeen, and since she decided to obey the law and leave her gun n the car, her parents and many others died. Texas lawmakers were not tripping over each other to enact CCW until she came along. Texas gun tradition indeed.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/9/2021 12:11:07 AM (No. 779536)
If they aren't they'll find out just how big a mistake that is.
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