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Posted By: Hazymac, 11/18/2020 3:14:25 PM

Although the poorly documented, sudden appearance, of thousands of "Biden" ballots may appear to be fraud, it's not proof. And in any event, they're mixed in with the full ballot pool, and can't be disentangled. Or can they? Let's consider the dumping scenario. Due to the limited time frame required to falsify ballots, it's likely that only a limited number of people participated. So what does this mean? It means that (1) the same sets of fingerprints should appear on multiple ballots (likely in the same place(s) on the ballot), and (2) these identifiers won't match known voting ballot handlers (eg election workers or ballot manufacturers).

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 11/18/2020 3:19:18 PM (No. 609687)
All well and good, but with the FBI unwilling to enforce the laws, who will do this high tech fingerprinting? Who will order these ballots siezed so that they can be investigated? SOMEONE with legal authority to investigate has to care and do it. Barr? Does anyone believe in him any more? Who? I'd like to believe that there is someone left in the DC swamp who actually cares about free and fair elections and is in a position of authority to do something......but that hope is fading, day by day.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: red1066 11/18/2020 3:24:58 PM (No. 609693)
Were these illegal ballots signed?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jimboscott 11/18/2020 3:45:45 PM (No. 609711)
2, NO ballot is ever signed. It is a secret ballot. That is why verification of the OUTER envelope is critical. The OUTER envelope is inspected for the affidavit and signature. Once that is opened, the INNER envelope containing that ballot is inspected to see if there are any marks at ALL on it. If there ARE marks then it is supposed to be thrown out. All of these unmarked envelopes end up in a pile, completely disassociated from the signed envelopes and never the two shall meet again. So, what if a precinct shows the outer envelopes to be 10% invalid? You have no idea which ballots these belong to. Mail-in voting is just a horrible horrible idea and the media is lying through its rotting teeth that it is safe. Mail in voting has ALWAYS been the path to fraud, ALWAYS.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Starboard_side 11/18/2020 3:46:54 PM (No. 609712)
It is also likely they all had a very exact marking on the ballot instead of a typical coloring-in by hand. It should be required by the elections officials to be able to verify why a sudden jump in Biden-only ballots were counted, where they were from, etc... Not the other way around. After all, aren't they supposed to be certifying the election results? This sense of a banana-republic election in what's supposed to be a first-tier country is astounding. And, it's all in very blue Democrat-run cities, if I'm not mistaken.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: jimboscott 11/18/2020 4:06:34 PM (No. 609719)
4, One SHOULD segregate ALL of the single Biden ballots and test the ink, the hand, and any other characteristic associated with that piece of paper. How could BIDEN have over 90,000 such votes while Trump had less than a thousand last time I heard. It makes no sense. Do not tell me a real voter who is for Biden is not also going to choose from TWO Senate races and their House race. That is NOT going to happen. Surely, it would seem a statistician or data analyst could look at those numbers and compare them to the rest of the country to ascertain what a REAL rate of single vote ballots SHOULD be. At the very least let that be another red flag. Problem is... even if it IS a huge red flag how does a court DEAL with it? The only thing would be to scrap this entire dumpster fire, wait for COVID-19 to subside, then run a REGULAR election next Spring or Summer. I see no way that this is even remotely recoverable. It is a total dumpster fire.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: 3XALADY 11/18/2020 4:15:04 PM (No. 609725)
Why can't they just go and pull the single for Biden votes with no down line votes and count the ones that are left. Easy peasy.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Californian 11/18/2020 4:21:13 PM (No. 609731)
Actually, it is proof. He's wrong. If the same standards the US State Department and the UN apply to third world country elections to detect fraud were applied to this election using the same standards, the US and UN would refuse to accept the election or legitimacy of the new third world country government because yes, Veronica, you CAN tell from the numbers and statistics if an election was fraudulent and our 2020 election fails EVERY single test for a legitimate election.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: ROLFNader 11/18/2020 4:29:27 PM (No. 609742)
I'm betting the perps wore rubber gloves
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Reply 9 - Posted by: davew 11/18/2020 4:41:57 PM (No. 609759)
If the percentage of spoiled absentee ballots averaged over hundreds of elections and many decades is about 1-3% and the percentage for certain districts in PA, MI, WI, and GA that are using mail-in ballots for the first time is 0.03% there is fraud in the counting of the ballots regardless of any fingerprints. The primary voting in NY and NJ used mail-in ballots for the first time this year and had spoiled rates of over 20%.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bamboozle 11/18/2020 5:08:40 PM (No. 609780)
By design....no.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2020 5:10:06 PM (No. 609784)
I can't post!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2020 5:13:20 PM (No. 609787)
Frankly, the argument that there "has not been enough cheating to change the results" is specious and hypocritical. If there is any wide-spread cheating at all, the election should be voided and a new election scheduled!! I may have to post line by line. The site is objecting to something.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2020 5:14:14 PM (No. 609788)
Voter ID - only citizens, in person, with a physical indelible mark to confirm you've voted. (Like Iraq) Only Absentee votes allowed are for Military and perhaps, State Department, who must be on station, overseas. For Invalids/shut-ins, You have a team assigned for each county to collect the votes. They have a list of registered voters and they may not pick up any ballots outside of those lists. Any report of negligence or fraud brings an immediate investigation of the team. All votes must be paper ballots. All ballots must be counted by hand with at least one observer from each political party involved who can confirm the truthfulness and validity of the votes tabulated. The tabulating machines may not have ANY connection to external input save the keypad. Not even a power cord - battery operated with extra batteries and as simple a calculation program as possible, to avoid hidden programming. All states must confirm their counts of registered voters. Any "provisional ballots" must be counted and set aside.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2020 5:16:06 PM (No. 609791)
If you vote on a provisional ballot, you must complete additional paperwork with contact information and proof of citizenship. You will be contacted,as will your original county of residence to confirm you have voted in only one place.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2020 5:16:52 PM (No. 609792)
I've discovered the site is rejecting the word, "F O R M"
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Reply 16 - Posted by: curious1 11/18/2020 7:03:05 PM (No. 609856)
The statistics show it was a fraudulent election. That is fact. It's the math. The only issue now is to find who the guilty parties are and string them up.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: or gate 11/18/2020 7:38:16 PM (No. 609884)
One way is count the registered voters. Then compare. Most i will say is there are a thousand in a small town with 1500 votes.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/18/2020 9:53:38 PM (No. 609977)
I hope to God all of the bogus ballots/votes can be identified and quantified. Whoever, thought the greatest nation on the planet would become so vulnerable to such massive fraud. And did Plugs know anything about it. I think to some extent, yes. As other very astute L.dotters have noted, why else would a presidential candidate spend his summer and fall in his basement knowing that the voting machines would cover for him. Now to the heart of the matter. Can we see the evidence of massive fraud, please.
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