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The Electoral College Produces Legitimate
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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 11/2/2020 1:03:56 AM

Without question, the upcoming presidential election is one of the most heated and divisive in recent memory. Current tensions have brought not only disagreements, bickering, and violence, but also misplaced distrust in the functionality of the U.S. presidential election system itself. Both Democrats and Republicans fear that fraud and dishonesty can tip the scales against them. These practices often impact local races; however, President Trump’s bipartisan Election Integrity Commission, which I served on from 2017-2018, concluded that a tyranny of the majority or extant voter fraud has yet to swing a presidential election.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 11/2/2020 1:50:28 AM (No. 592445)
Yes, the EC was the key compromise which made it possible to get the Constitution ratified by the original states. Without the EC the smaller states would never have agreed to join the union. The EC is a brilliant idea, and will never be done away with.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cooling Saucer 11/2/2020 2:19:57 AM (No. 592460)
This excellent article addresses an important issue that needs more attention. Someone described majority rule as two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. This "tyranny of the majority" was understood by the Founders as a potential, serious flaw. They addressed it by chopping-up power into smaller pieces such that each state would have the same proportion of power as the number of representatives (House and Senate) in the National Legislature. This gives even the smallest states some proportion of power in the high-stakes game of presidential politics. Take that away and many states will find that it is mathamatically impossible for them to have any power at all.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: ARKfamily 11/2/2020 6:20:25 AM (No. 592532)
No problem with the electoral college when Obama won. They are being sore losers. . .
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Reply 4 - Posted by: tsquare 11/2/2020 6:51:54 AM (No. 592551)
It still appears that Chicago voting fraud produced a JFK presidency
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Reply 5 - Posted by: LLAMA 11/2/2020 7:50:48 AM (No. 592618)
#1 is right. Without the electoral college there never would have been a United States of America. Fortunately, the Constitution is very difficult to amend (a good thing), requiring overwhelming consensus - 2/3 approval by both Houses of Congress, and by 3/4 of the individual states. But no doubt the globalists that comprise the Democratic Party will try to circumvent the EC in ways that nobody has thought of yet. If the EC is eviscerated in any way, in will mark the beginning of the process of dissolution of the US into two or more nations.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: walcb 11/2/2020 7:58:04 AM (No. 592626)
The electoral college system is excellent and Ohio may have voting regulations that limit voter fraud but this year it may all come down to Pennsylvania and that state is a disaster on voter fraud.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/2/2020 8:34:09 AM (No. 592667)
The last sentence of Blackwell's piece pulls it together - "The system is the gold standard and the model of a free society. " Without the Electoral College, the dim-controlled cities would run the table at every election with the dim vote and flyover country including the smaller states would have no voice--none whatsoever.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: starboard 11/2/2020 9:03:23 AM (No. 592709)
Right now it feels the problems we face are insurmountable and the EC is vital to keeping our republic. This is what happens when you have big money people and entities try to win our elections with an old, feeble and corrupt party. Joe Biden is the poster boy for this. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese and their friends in Big Tech aren't already calling the shots. They own Biden and the Democrat Party want to own this country. President Trump is the only one who will stand up to them.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40 11/2/2020 9:07:35 AM (No. 592717)
The EC was designed to produce both an Electoral and a popular vote majority. The reason the two are different the last few cycles is because of vote fraud triggered by the Democrats. Hillary's popular vote 'majority ' of 2.5 million votes comes from illegals, at least twice that amount, being included in her totals. if votes legally cast by US citizens are counted, Trump easily won both. Same could happen this time.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: gone2pot 11/2/2020 9:09:27 AM (No. 592720)
Here we go again. After early voting, in many districts (mostly purple), there are more submitted, filled in and submitted ballots than people who live in the districts including kids, etc. Yeah. The cheating is being perfected from 2016 by the Marxists. If the Marxists win, there will be no more electoral college. And the armed BLM and antifa riot camps have already surrounded the White House, all illegal permits approved by the DC mayor.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney 11/2/2020 9:16:55 AM (No. 592735)
Ignorant left. The constitution is a legal document agreed among the states to get them to form the U.S. The electoral college was set up to get the small state, every one of which is blue, to agree to enter that agreement. If you don't like the electoral college, then the 2 senator thing with the small states is over.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Zigrid 11/2/2020 10:10:42 AM (No. 592816)
I have faith in the Electoral College...when loser al gore tried to turn the election results in his favor... the Supreme Court stepped in... hanging chads my posterior...it was a desperate attempt to rig the election...that I will never forget...
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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared 11/2/2020 10:17:10 AM (No. 592825)
The college design was brilliant but I don't have faith in the distribution nor the counting of the votes. One or possibly two days to vote in person, or a requested absentee ballot with a notary's signature.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Arby 11/2/2020 10:25:58 AM (No. 592835)
We will never be ruled by New York, California and Illinois. The EC is essential for our republic.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: planetgeo 11/2/2020 12:35:21 PM (No. 592966)
The Electoral College is really an ingenious model to provide a republic consisting of independent, various-sized states a means to agree on a shared federal government. The smaller states don't get an equal vote to the largest states, but instead get an agreed upon proportional vote that gives them a legitimate voice when coupled with other states. It's brilliant and shouldn't be tampered with. A purely popular vote would destroy the rationale for cooperation by all states, since a few of the largest states could overwhelm a majority of the smaller states.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: planetgeo 11/2/2020 12:43:57 PM (No. 592970)
I would add one more comment regarding the value of an electoral college voting system. Namely, I believe it should be extended as a concept to be used WITHIN a state, with the counties in that state being the electoral units. Why? Take a look at Illinois, for example. One city, Chicago, and one county, Cook, dominate that state and drag every other city and county into certain bankruptcy. It's ridiculous. No single mega-city should have that kind of power. On a broader scale, look at a county map of the entire USA, with red-blue designations for Republican-Democrat. The country is literally a giant sea of red with big blue dots as islands in that sea. Why should the vast majority of counties be forced to submit to the crazy fiscal and cultural dictates of those big blue cities? Counties, step up to the plate, and "let's have a conversation"...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: little guy 11/2/2020 1:08:40 PM (No. 592987)
The Electoral College is the best and smartest way to prevent a majority from crushing a minority. It is brilliant in concept and sterling in application. It stopped the former colonies from becoming separate nations. The Dems had no problem when Kennedy barely "beat" Nixon but won in the College. We now know the fraud in Chicago/Cook County gave Kennedy the stolen win and thus the whole state electoral vote and victory to become POTUS. Then, years later, in a 3-way race with Clinton, Bush and that nut job Perot the Dems had no problem with Clinton winning the Electoral College --- despite receiving only about 42% of the popular vote! A simple way to understand the real value of the EC: Imagine the entire world voted for one leader. Now imagine China, India, Indonesia, Brazil and Pakistan formed an unholy alliance and elected their guy. Exactly how would the Brits, the French, the Aussies, (and us!) etc. like that outcome? Thus, we have a solution. You can't become president without some small states too.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: ronniethek 11/2/2020 7:32:17 PM (No. 593288)
#17--what you wrote is popular mythology. Even if the fraud in Chicago was as extensive as it is reputes to have been--Kennedy received 303 electoral votes including 27 from Illinois. Take away those 27 and he would still have had 276 votes and beaten Nixon 276-259. Those days only 535 EC votes existed as DC did not yet vote. So facts matter more than myths.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: MMC 11/2/2020 9:40:29 PM (No. 593363)
We have seen the massive massive support for President Trump.. It is the fraud- NJ not counting in person votes for a week after election? The dead, the mail found ballots.. How does having an Electoral College matter if we have Weekend at Bernies candidate with a Marxist in waiting VP win?
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