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Pennsylvania: Mail ballots can’t be discarded over signature

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Posted By: envirodude, 9/16/2020 3:31:39 PM

With concerns rising in Pennsylvania that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots will be discarded in the presidential election over technicalities, officials in the presidential battleground told counties they aren’t allowed to reject a ballot solely because an election official believes a signature doesn’t match the one in the voter’s file. The new guidance from Pennsylvania’s Department of State — that state law does not allow counties to set aside mail-in ballots based on their signature analysis — prompted the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania and the Urban League of Greater Pittsburgh to drop a lawsuit in federal court Monday.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: MMC 9/16/2020 3:42:44 PM (No. 542845)
I would be contesting this rule- NOW!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: qr4j 9/16/2020 3:45:05 PM (No. 542847)
So if the signatures don't match, how do you know the legally credentialed person is voting? Yeah, I'd be contesting that in court.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 9/16/2020 3:48:04 PM (No. 542848)
Right out in the open. Trump needs PA, I hope they are paying attention.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: rikkitikki 9/16/2020 3:51:02 PM (No. 542851)
A ruling which proves, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the dems will stuff ballot boxes until the needed counts are made. It also will reduce every future election held in Pennsylvania to the same barrel-bottom standards as the worst third-world country...Sudan or Venezuela come to mind. Even India makes a voter stick his thumb in a pot of purple ink so at least he can't vote twice....but not Pennsylvania.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 9/16/2020 3:56:23 PM (No. 542858)
You have to count the ballot, even it it's fake.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: davew 9/16/2020 3:59:11 PM (No. 542860)
This is such a ridiculously subjective 19th century rule for voter verification that it could only be the brainchild of big government. This is the same incompetency that resulted in the Florida "hanging chads" idiocy, the Iowa caucus debacle, and the blatant fraud in New York and New Jersey primaries. I have voted absentee for years in California but I have literally lost all confidence that this process is sound and will be voting early in person this year.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: volksford 9/16/2020 4:02:14 PM (No. 542862)
" Election officials are not trained in handwriting analysis "...then get somebody who is you freakin' vote stealing bastids !
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Reply 8 - Posted by: john56 9/16/2020 4:02:21 PM (No. 542864)
Well, X marks the spot.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Right Time 9/16/2020 4:10:59 PM (No. 542870)
So, if the signature on the ballot has the wrong name or the name is spelled wrong, it is valid? So, if the signature on the ballot is an "X" it is still valid? So if the signature on the ballot is very clearly left-handed, but the original record signature is not, it is still valid? So, if the ballot and signature is for a clearly false name (i.e., Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, Thoreau, William Shakespeare)? So, if the signature on the ballot is made via a rubber stamp and ink pad, it is still valid? This is utter lunacy. People of good faith can spot an obvious forgery and don't need to be handwriting expert to do so.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 9/16/2020 4:31:01 PM (No. 542885)
I'm sure my 94 yr old father's signature wouldn't match the one on file from his registration in 2001. That being said, I personally want one day only voting, no early voting, purple thumbs/verified ID. Notarized absentee only for mail in. I'll admit I don't know the answer to those in assisted living/rehab that can't get to the polls, but I sure don't want people coming in to 'help' them. I used to work with a woman whose signature looked like the infinity sign, had no match to any known word, let alone her name....but it was her signature.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: XCenturion 9/16/2020 4:58:57 PM (No. 542907)
I hope the Attorney General is paying close attention to this. Prosecute any election official perpetrating this attempt by the Democrats to steal the election.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Jethro bo 9/16/2020 5:00:07 PM (No. 542910)
Rebublicans will roll over and wet themselves as usual. What they should do is flood the counties with ballots knowing the signatures can be forged. Fight fraud with fraud!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Proud Texan 9/16/2020 5:11:33 PM (No. 542919)
Any state that followed these low standards shouldn't be allowed to send delegates to the electoral college. Unfortunately, I don't know have any idea how that could be done.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq 9/16/2020 5:14:46 PM (No. 542924)
I'm not optimistic.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: RuckusTom 9/16/2020 5:31:08 PM (No. 542942)
They're going to steal this election. See Orange County, California, during the 2018 midterms. That's the template and it's coming nation wide in 2020.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 9/16/2020 5:34:08 PM (No. 542948)
Actually, this is not a bad ruling. All the judge said was that they cannot DISCARD the ballot. The order does not require them to count it. Once the ballot has been discarded there is no way to come back and make sure that the reason given for discarding it is supported by what can be seen on the ballot.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 9/16/2020 5:36:11 PM (No. 542952)
Oh, I suspect that some “federal courts” will be willingly complicit in these shenanigans. Damn the politicization of the judiciary.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: FTCM 9/16/2020 5:47:21 PM (No. 542960)
It begins...A Democratic (Amerikan Communist) state starts the ball rolling to accept even dog paw prints as suitable signatures!!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DVC 9/16/2020 5:48:51 PM (No. 542963)
So now fraud is officially OK?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: GoodDeal 9/16/2020 6:13:01 PM (No. 542975)
They will be discarded of they are voted for Trump.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: BarryNo 9/16/2020 7:45:34 PM (No. 543016)
Cheat by mail, of course. The signature reads "Mickey Mouse" The signature on file reads "Donald Duck. "He passes!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: lakerman1 9/16/2020 8:25:59 PM (No. 543032)
#6, let's consider the history. When the U.S. was founded, and voters went to the polls - 1789 - a voter could not display a driver's license, or a social security card, or any photo ID. Nothing existed, except his signature.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MickTurn 9/17/2020 8:20:15 AM (No. 543365)
Signature is invalid, Done, NO VOTE!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: paral04 9/17/2020 2:59:14 PM (No. 543831)
So anyone can intercept a ballot in the mail, fill it out and forge the name and it is OK? This sounds like Venezuela not the USA.
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