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Dakotas lead US in virus growth as
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Posted By: NDDoc, 9/12/2020 8:13:01 PM

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — Coronavirus infections in the Dakotas are growing faster than anywhere else in the nation, fueling impassioned debates over masks and personal freedom after months in which the two states avoided the worst of the pandemic. The argument over masks raged this week in Brookings, South Dakota, as the city council considered requiring face coverings in businesses. The city was forced to move its meeting to a local arena to accommodate intense interest, with many citizens speaking against it, before the mask requirement ultimately passed.  Corrections*

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I'm a physician in North Dakota. I work in an outpatient clinic 2 weeks a month where we have seen 80% of the COVID positive cases in the 2nd largest metro area in ND. In my other 2 weeks I work in the Hospital in the same city on the COVID floor and ICU. I suspect I have seen well over 2,000 patients with COVID and besides those hospitalized the others seldom have symptoms more than just a cold. Yes, older individuals with comorbidities can and do get very ill from this. For everyone else this is a non issue. Many ask if I wear a mask and yes I do. For me, it is to protect others since I could easily become a source for infection, but because I do wear a mask at work at all times, I never have.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ThreeBadCats3 9/12/2020 8:27:05 PM (No. 538886)
I have a private family practice in Virginia. I have seen no covid positive people. I don’t see a point to testing or recommending. It is merely inviting trouble. A positive test, whether false or true, rarely translates to serious illness. I agree with those who advise starting hydroxychloroquine and inhaled steroids if you even suspect a symptomatic infection. The sooner we do away with the foolish masks and gloves, presently left by slobs to decorate sidewalks and streets, the better, as far as I’m concerned.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JL80863 9/12/2020 8:30:50 PM (No. 538889)
It may take some time for all of the facts to become known. What is known is the fact that the fake news cabal is positively beside themselves "proving" that the Dakotas have made the disease worse. We have already seen what they tried to do over the Sturgis rally.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 9/12/2020 8:31:07 PM (No. 538891)
Have you seen the ads on television that South Dakota has been running? Governor is featured at the end. Road trip to Mt. Rushmore has been tempting me all summer, and then I see this ad on television. Excellent marketing.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: chiller 9/12/2020 8:32:54 PM (No. 538894)
AP is attempting to skew data to smear the Sturgis rally, imho. The Dakotas are 42, and 43 of the 50 US with slight increases in deaths (6, 3). There are more cases, but still very small comparatively, with increases based on percentages.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kate318 9/12/2020 8:35:23 PM (No. 538897)
Blah, blah, blah. Same song, different verse. I don’t believe ANYTHING the media or the media community tell me. Both have been trying to control our lives for decades.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Zarin 9/12/2020 8:40:08 PM (No. 538902)
OP Is there a high percentage of false positives? Is there any way for the authorities to sort that out? I am wondering how much good, sound & logical information is getting to the public. The data on masks is discouraging. The plain surgical masks provide a tad bit better protection than the cloth masks but not much. The mask needs to stay dry & the wearer should not touch the outside of it with his hands - if he does he needs to wash his hands in a timely manner & before he removes the mask. The mask should be changed frequently - and then washed or thrown away. It should not worn for days - which I have heard is a common practice in some businesses. High risk people should be staying out of crowds & should wearing an N95 - which requires a fitting. If we did that - nobody else would have to wear these dirty cloth rags on their faces. BTW Is the public aware that besides diabetes, obesity is a major risk factor for death via the COVID?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: TXknitter 9/12/2020 8:44:12 PM (No. 538907)
Many thanks, OP. Its great to get correct information from somebody on the front lines. We see the media is desperate to pin every sniffle in the Dakotas either on the Sturgis bike rally or that stunning SD Governor. The press itching to prove her early and prudent decisions wrong and dangerous. It is not going to work.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo 9/12/2020 8:47:13 PM (No. 538910)
Nothing lies so well as carefully massaged statistics. AP uses this all the time. My middle finger rises to their faces.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rama41 9/12/2020 8:47:32 PM (No. 538911)
Thanks to poster for the article and comments. Just glanced at the NYTimes Coronavirus numbers for ND and SD. Appears to me the article is overhyped, looking at case numbers, hospitalization, and absence of info on ages of those with the virus. I'm not surprised.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: kono 9/12/2020 9:07:52 PM (No. 538921)
"Fastest growing" is often spin for something that started smallest and grew a little. Seems like that's what American Pravda is doing here, bless their little hearts.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Ketchuplover 9/12/2020 9:25:29 PM (No. 538927)
I am confused by the OP's comment that the Dr. (OP) wears a mask to keep others from receiving the virus from him/her. But he/she will never receive it because he/she always wears a mask. Soooo - is your wearing the mask both keeping you from receiving the virus and from transmitting the virus? If so, then how can the wearing of the mask be a non-issue? The AP article is deceiving if you can follow it all the way through. Full of contradictions. It emphasizes a spike in positives implying it's because of a lack of mask-wearing. Then it says that Minnesotans have a spike in positives SINCE having a mask mandate. Then it says that Native Americans are among the most stringent in taking precautions against the virus. Then it says that almost one in four deaths from Covid in the Dakotas has been among the Native Americans. Ping-pong anyone?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 9/12/2020 9:36:00 PM (No. 538937)
I'll bet heterosexual AIDS is raging in the Dakotas too. I remember that prediction from 1985.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 9/12/2020 9:43:26 PM (No. 538944)
We've had mask mandates in my area for weeks, yet today I just learned that a niece and nephew are sick and tested positive for the plague. After weeks of mask mandates from the feurher. Masks aren't a magic bullet. Even the great dr. Fauchi has given contradictory advice on the issue.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: NDDoc 9/12/2020 9:56:21 PM (No. 538953)
I wear the mask outside of work when I know I’ll be inside the 6ft distancing guideline. I’m a 20 yr sf veteran and spend my time in the great outdoors, so very little need for a mask or distancing. My mask use is my choice not a recommendation. There are very few people at as high a risk as I am. My recommendation is just a little common sense, which there is very little of these days.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bison65 9/12/2020 10:11:07 PM (No. 538965)
Just came back from three weeks in South Dakota and northern Idaho. While in the Black Hills attended the Deadwood Days rodeo. Very few masks seen and we did not wear any except in those few stores like Walmart which wanted them worn. While having breakfast in Sandpoint Idaho noted a young man and family seated. The young man with his 9mm on his hip. No BLM punk or Antifa puke will bother that family. Find your backbones Americans.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: YorkieMom 9/12/2020 10:42:14 PM (No. 538974)
I mainly look at the number of deaths and recovery rates. Out of around 2 million people, we have 1400 deaths and the recovery rate is 92%. Our fake governor is still keeping things shut and masks are mandated almost everywhere.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: NYbob 9/12/2020 10:55:17 PM (No. 538981)
Why isn't the media EVER examined or held accountable for their bias and false information. The most rabid enemies of the USA could not wish for better allies than scum like AP, which is really an amalgam of the rest of MSM. This is a real cancer in our country and NO one ever makes an effort to expose their propaganda or take measures to curb it. The driving force might be sensationalism to get attention, but they only go one way with their undermining. They could have gather mega attention if they focused on the absurdities of BOs forged documents and his unique demand to not investigate his prepolitical life, but they didn't. They did the opposite and either covered up the forgeries or attacked anyone who pointed to the obvious, clumsy, errors in the false documents. They are worse than Toyko Rose and she had a death sentence over her head.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: pinger 9/12/2020 10:56:33 PM (No. 538982)
All we need to do is look at the source, AP, of the article and you know it an be taken with a grain of salt...
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Reply 19 - Posted by: raphaela 9/13/2020 12:15:40 AM (No. 539006)
I've never worn the mask. I've been going out shopping 4-7x per week to Walmart, drug stores, grocery stores. Funny thing is that I know many of the cashiers at these places and to a person none of them has gotten sick from the corona virus. I've been wondering since Easter how come these grocery store workers and other front line workers have a special immunity. I think that most people who work in these places already were immunized from this cold virus. If you see hundreds of people every day you've probably been exposed to hundreds of viruses. They're probably the healthiest among us.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 9/13/2020 12:19:18 AM (No. 539008)
I don’t believe a word written in this article! Masknazis!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DCGIRL 9/13/2020 5:40:53 AM (No. 539075)
Who cares?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: franq 9/13/2020 7:35:11 AM (No. 539123)
If you have one case, then.... two cases 100% growth. Largest growth rate in the world. Get it? So sick of the lies.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: JackBurton 9/13/2020 8:33:53 AM (No. 539183)
When 'co-morbidities' include car accidents, stabbings, shootings, and poisonings, I find deaths and even numbers of those hospitalized to be meaningless. There was an American Thinker article about the covid tests. They take a sample that should include virus RNA and then culture it. Over and over. To magnify the RNA sample so that it is detectable. Trouble is, they culture it 40 times when 36 is enough leading to a lot of false positives. At 36 times, to test positive, there has to be enough virus to actually get you sick. We had the flu in 1918 and we've had it in various forms every year since. Covid will be no different. I just pray we get smarter. BTW. George Floyd had covid. If the CDC counts his death as a Covid death, can the officers use that to be found not guilty? Asking for a friend.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 9/13/2020 9:13:02 AM (No. 539225)
AP is soiling itself again... The reason they are trying to make the Dakotas the new 'hot spot' is the same reason they tried to portray Florida as the new 'hot spot' a month ago. They are Republican lead states. Currently the five worst states are all Democrat lead. Those five states account for 40% of CV19 deaths. They also all stored CV19 patients in nursing homes. They tried to say Florida did the same, but that story has disappeared. Next we will hear how the Dakotas 'stored' CV19 patients in nursing homes. Anything to draw attention elsewhere. The thing they really don't want to talk about is the lockdown. It very likely contributed to the number of deaths. People in poor health don't do well in isolation. Its becoming clear the lockdown was not well thought out. It was politically motivated to get at Trump. People died because of it. Politics and health care do not fix. People die when you play politics with healthcare. The AP is trying to cover it all up.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 9/13/2020 9:18:59 AM (No. 539231)
This and the silly Surgis-super-spreader stories (which were easily rebutted with the info in the stories) are evidence the Dims are scared to death of Kristi Noem, the governor of SD.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: ROLFNader 9/13/2020 9:40:41 AM (No. 539257)
I had the pleasure of living in that beautiful state for 15 years. With a total population around 800,000 , the Ape Pee had to zero in on one of their three college towns to get these numbers. Watertown , like most college towns ,is famous for it's parties. I think we would find this to be the case in every state in the country.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: ROLFNader 9/13/2020 10:53:18 AM (No. 539347)
Oops, meant Brookings, not Watertown.
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