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We Haven’t Seen Political Violence Like
This in America Since… the Civil War

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Posted By: DVC, 9/1/2020 12:01:06 PM

The murder of Trump supporter Jay Bishop by Black Lives Matter rioter Michael Reinoehl in Portland Saturday night was a watershed moment, an introduction of the political violence that has been common in many other countries but has seldom been seen in America. However, it does have antecedents: the heated runup to the Civil War is the most exact analogy, which is not all that surprising given that we may now be careening toward a second one. The political violence broke out in the Kansas Territory. Senator Stephen A. Douglas of Illinois was the main architect of the principle of popular sovereignty,

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Let's hope that this path doesn't lead to the same sort of outcome, but the leftists see this as their chance to take over the country, and violence is just one of their more popular tools.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 12:05:38 PM (No. 527945)
I live in eastern Kansas, only about a dozen miles from Lawrence. A very good friend's family has been here since the 1840s. His great grandfather took the mules and horses to hide them and himself in a densely brushy creek bottom when Quantrill's raiders came through and burned the barn, killed the remaining livestock and forced his great grandmother to feed them. These events are still real in this part of the country, people have stories, many stories of relatives who were in the "bleeding Kansas" events and the civil war. The James brothers and the Youngers were guerillas in this conflict. I had a boss who was a Younger, great nephew of Cole Younger. The history is still alive around here. Let's hope we don't repeat it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Clinger 9/1/2020 12:39:12 PM (No. 527998)
I actually think #1, that the current climate looks more like bloody Kansas than the rest of the nation at the time we were slaughtering one another. Having had the privilege to read letters ( some unpublished in personal collections) and post war memoirs from the common soldiers I don't see the same level of wide spread personal hatred of our current time.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bad-hair 9/1/2020 12:40:25 PM (No. 528000)
It's not political. It's mass shoplifting, smash and grab and arson for the fun of it in cities where the criminals rule.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Nimby 9/1/2020 1:05:24 PM (No. 528028)
Ask the dude who started it all # 44
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Reply 5 - Posted by: seamusm 9/1/2020 1:07:47 PM (No. 528032)
However much we might pray otherwise, I fear we have gone over the edge and another Civil War is inescapable. Just remember that a war is not won when the victors declare it to be over but rather when the losers beg for it.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: chance_232 9/1/2020 1:09:30 PM (No. 528035)
IMHO......Whats happening now looks more like what happened in Germany in the 1920's and 30's. Antifa, Occupy Wall Street and BLM are the modern democrat brown shirts. Instead of Kristallnacht, we get to tear down statues, political correctness and cancel culture. Instead of Anschluss, we get open borders and a demand that we pay rent on once tribal lands. The Nazis implemented censorship and book burnings. We get, see above. What brought the nazis to power was the economic crash and the promise to fix everything. We have the covid-19 lock downs trashing the economy. The nazis burned down the Reichstag and blamed it on the opposition. We have nationwide arson and a deliberate shut down of the economy and its the fault of Trump and his supporters. Whats coming is an armed rebellion/revolution, followed by a civil war if they prevail.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: mc squared 9/1/2020 1:12:48 PM (No. 528037)
#3, Yes, but it's a crisis being used by the Commicrat party to advance their agenda. I believe everything is political - down to dog catcher. Someone is advancing themselves.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: snakeoil 9/1/2020 1:57:32 PM (No. 528082)
During the Vietnam war there was quite a bit of violence. The current violence is paid for by George Soros, the DNC, the Vile Witch, Hussein the Horrible, etc. Look at the thugs. There have no money problems, no job, and have bricks and other weapons delivered. Ask them what it would take for them to stop and you get nonsense such as "an end to racism", "no police," "no prisons, etc. Just a stream of nonsense. What will stop it is troops who are committed to putting down these thugs or their money supply cut off. When the Vietnam War was raging, John Lennon called a press conference and since he was the Big Beetle all kinds of reporters showed up. The press conference was held in his bedroom where he and Yoko Ono were naked and under the sheets. John said he and Yoko intended to have sex continually until the Vietnam War ended. Lefties always have ridiculous solutions.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: doctorfixit 9/1/2020 2:33:23 PM (No. 528120)
"War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say, give them all they want of it" William Tecumseh Sherman
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Geoman 9/1/2020 4:45:05 PM (No. 528197)
To me, the big lesson of the Viet Nam war in the context of civil conflict in the US today, isn't so much what was happening in the US during the 1960s and early 70s but what was going on in Viet Nam. It was impossible to recognize the communists insurgents in the Viet Cong, unless you caught them in the act or were ratted out by the Chieu Hoi defectors. Today, the hoodie-clad Antifa insurgents, with their string backpacks and slogans, along with their mostly white BLM partners can be easily recognized by their actions but during a hot war, I expect they would clean up and appear like normal law abiding citizens. What most of the democrat politicians and their media brethren supporting Antifa and BLM don't seem to recognize is that they would be the most likely targets in a hot war, as they have already self-identified. Once the leadership of the insurgents is eliminated, I believe the US version of the VC would quickly lose their ardor for war. Average Americans, on the other hand, will never lose their passion for freedom and liberty.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel 9/1/2020 5:46:23 PM (No. 528252)
The anarchists (or is it antiChrists?) have taken off their Guy Faulks masks and donned a more generic face rag. We will know them by their actions against the civil order and law. No matter what state the uprising occurs, there will be those patriots with weapons far superior to a bag of excrement or a bottle of flaming gasoline to exact a disporportionate reponse. The worms will find that they "Broke into the wrong goll-darned Rec room!" (Tremors)
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 9/1/2020 5:53:35 PM (No. 528256)
#9, Sherman was a hard, hard man. But he saw clearly what war was. Another good quotation, and why I always believe and say that we need to avoid this if we possibly can. "War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Laotzu 9/1/2020 6:35:49 PM (No. 528318)
Nope. Jonah says no violence; no Civil War.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: XCenturion 9/2/2020 2:53:25 AM (No. 528614)
I find that more and more of my neighbors are legally carrying concealed firearms because of the increase in violence in our country. Antifa and BLM anarchists are encouraged by Democrat elected officials unwillingness to enforce laws. Sadly it will probably get much worse the closer we get to election day.
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