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Posted By: Ribicon, 8/31/2020 9:39:21 AM

More active-duty U.S. troops say they’ll vote for former Vice President Joseph R. Biden than President Trump in the November election, a new poll shows, continuing a steady decline in the commander in chief’s favorability ratings among service members. A Military Times survey released Monday found that if the election were held today, 41% of active-duty troops say they’d vote for Mr. Biden, compared to just 37% for the president. Another 13% said they intend to back a third-party candidate, while 9% said they’d skip the presidential election altogether. The Military Times surveyed 1,018 active-duty troops for the poll.


Must be fake news. They want more transgenderism and Diversity training? They want more inept, politically appointed leaders like Barry installed? They want their loved ones at home to live amid endless violent Peaceful Protests while they engage in endless interventions that do us no good overseas?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: smcchk 8/31/2020 9:42:56 AM (No. 526752)
Good grief.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: John Moses Browning 8/31/2020 9:46:57 AM (No. 526758)
I don’t believe this for even a minute. But If it is somehow true, we as a nation are in terrible trouble because of what the “education” system has done to our young people. I don’t see antifa types joining the military. Unpatriotic leftists signing up in any numbers for service is far fetched.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: cold porridge 8/31/2020 9:49:11 AM (No. 526760)
I call total Bee Ess on this one.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Mofongo 8/31/2020 9:51:03 AM (No. 526761)
Two questions. Could this reflect the racial composition of the armed forces? Can Biden voters be trusted to defend the country?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Crusty_Rusty 8/31/2020 9:51:44 AM (No. 526762)
Poll taken at Fort Leavenworth and Paris Island Detention Center! The Military Times has been noted in the past to be Anti-Trump.........
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Laotzu 8/31/2020 9:54:28 AM (No. 526764)
It wouldn't surprise me. The services are filled with African Americans who enter solely for the benefits and pick career fields that assure them sedentary, no-risk office jobs. My entire admin staff in service was African-American. The guys who were in jobs that deployed first were all White. The "tooth-to-tail" ratio of the services is probably well beyond 1-10 at this point. Special forces are largely white and Hispanic troops. It's a fact. Nobody talks about it. They wear the uniform, vote for rainbows and unicorns, and never fire a weapon.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Kate318 8/31/2020 9:56:17 AM (No. 526767)
Oh, please. Not buying.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BaldGuy 8/31/2020 9:57:32 AM (No. 526769)
as an enlisted Navy man back in the 70's, we would always try to screw with "the system"...if some guy walked on our ship with a clipboard to ask us who we were voting for, we would all say "Howdy Doody" if he were on the ballot. We would never tell the truth.....
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40 8/31/2020 10:04:38 AM (No. 526777)
I wouldn't dismiss the report so easily. #6 has it right. There are many blacks in the Armed Forces. The benefits part of it is true . But their main fear is being ordered to fire upon fellow blacks. They know the rioters are going to be mainly African Americans. I think PDT is sensitive to that. But if protecting life and property comes down to it, he will do what is required.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Gnana1 8/31/2020 10:05:00 AM (No. 526778)
This is a fake poll. This is not possible. No way. Bunk. BS.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/31/2020 10:07:52 AM (No. 526780)
They're polling Pentagon rats, not the troops in the field.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: TJ54 8/31/2020 10:10:03 AM (No. 526781)
LOL, no. If the police unions are endorsing Trump can be sure that soldiers, who have received their best treatment in years under Trump will be voting for him.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: planetgeo 8/31/2020 10:14:34 AM (No. 526788)
Word of warning...the Military Times, which took this poll, is like the CNN of military publications. It's yet another propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. Take its articles and its polls accordingly.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: clipped wings 8/31/2020 10:29:09 AM (No. 526813)
Bee Ess!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: wilarrbie 8/31/2020 10:30:40 AM (No. 526817)
Bull pucky! Surely many of us here have family members in uniform - what do THEY say? Please ask them and tell us. Pretty sure it differs from this 'poll'.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: HotRod 8/31/2020 10:31:03 AM (No. 526819)
Comparing blacks in the military to blacks on the street of NY City or Chicago is a mistake. Those in the military are just as patriotic as anyone else, of any color. There are a few bad apples, same as for any group, but they are good people. Ask any military person, not some fake news outfit!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 8/31/2020 10:42:12 AM (No. 526833)
They probably polled Chinese troops.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: LadyHen 8/31/2020 10:42:17 AM (No. 526834)
Buy it! Sorry but having seen this first hand now, doesn't shock me at all. The Army in particular has turned into a make work program for single Millennial moms who want the benefits and the officer corps are a bunch of overeducated, egghead academics who want to work until they are in their 40's (with one year's overseas duty under their belt), get their Masters and PhD on the military's dime, and then retire with an amazing pension and benefits until they die. Government employees to the core.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Lucky5 8/31/2020 10:52:57 AM (No. 526850)
Lies: The Musical, coming soon...
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Luandir 8/31/2020 10:54:34 AM (No. 526855)
"13% for a third-party candidate?" WHAT third-party candidate?!?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: chumley 8/31/2020 10:56:23 AM (No. 526857)
Not buying it for a minute. The communists in the military are louder and more emboldened, but far fewer than patriots. One of the many downsides of the military is that they make everyone exactly the same. They dress the same, walk the same, run the same, eat the same and even turn wrenches the same. As a consequence some troops will do anything they can get away with to stand out from the herd.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: pearlyjo 8/31/2020 10:58:26 AM (No. 526861)
I believe #8 may have the answer.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Condor44 8/31/2020 11:00:13 AM (No. 526866)
I spent 9 years in the Marine Corps. 6 active duty and 3 active reserve. I take umbrage of the people posting disparaging black service members. I never saw anything like they are acusing them of doing. As they say in the Corps, there is only one color, and that is Marine green!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: BarryNo 8/31/2020 11:03:09 AM (No. 526880)
Not believable.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 8/31/2020 11:04:06 AM (No. 526882)
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Reply 26 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/31/2020 11:06:00 AM (No. 526883)
Uh huh! Next we will have a poll saying Trump supporters are abandoning Trump. Then Texas has gone blue. Hell will freeze over first.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: shalimar 8/31/2020 11:07:57 AM (No. 526888)
This is an online poll of people who read Military Times. It is NOT a random sample. The Military Times admits as much: "Like most studies where participation is voluntary, the poll’s sample is subject to self-selection bias." Oh.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: moebellini3 8/31/2020 11:11:49 AM (No. 526898)
Another bullsh** poll. If they tell you the makeup of the pool you'll have your answer. We have a large military with many branches. That tells a lot...
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Reply 29 - Posted by: StormCnter 8/31/2020 11:11:52 AM (No. 526899)
Well, we have an 18 year old granddaughter in Air Force Basic Training at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, who is just about the biggest Trump supporter you've ever met. And I suspect she's proselytizing, too.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Iron Duke1 8/31/2020 11:44:42 AM (No. 526936)
Does this mean that the military ballots from overseas will finally get to be counted? Perhaps they will finally be counted before they are too late!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 8/31/2020 11:51:57 AM (No. 526950)
Does anyone have an extra B.S. Meter? Mine just blew up.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 8/31/2020 11:52:54 AM (No. 526951)
Sounds opposite to all logic and reality.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: john56 8/31/2020 11:56:25 AM (No. 526954)
If that's true (and I doubt it), maybe we can hire those Democrat lawyers back in 2000 who were so successful in tossing out military absentee ballots in Florida, thinking they were for GW Bush. This time, we may come out ahead!
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Reply 34 - Posted by: DVC 8/31/2020 12:01:15 PM (No. 526964)
Another Fake Poll.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: GoodDeal 8/31/2020 12:19:03 PM (No. 526980)
Polling was limited to transgendered gay or lesbian democrats in the military.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: lakerman1 8/31/2020 12:19:09 PM (No. 526982)
thank you, #27. fake poll. and let us not disparage minority military members. did they join for the benefits? In many cases, yes. But that is no different than whites who enlisted.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan 8/31/2020 12:22:27 PM (No. 526987)
So will the dems count the overseas ballots this year? This poll is quite unbelievable.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: anniebc 8/31/2020 12:36:36 PM (No. 526995)
Thank you, poster #37. Good grief, sometimes!
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Reply 39 - Posted by: hershey 8/31/2020 12:37:07 PM (No. 526996)
Hey people, it's the Washington Slimes...believe NOTHING they say...
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Reply 40 - Posted by: bighambone 8/31/2020 12:48:35 PM (No. 527008)
They must have polled all the mess kit repair companies?
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Reply 41 - Posted by: NYbob 8/31/2020 12:48:44 PM (No. 527009)
Imagine the excitement at the Washington Times, knowing they could publish this. Oh, we will get so many views because THIS is big news! A left backed and progressive filtered 'Military Times' gins up a bogus poll to get attention and it works because our media is nothing but rumor and hysterical attention grabbing prostitutes. Everyone is happy, except people who expect the truth from the news.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: snapper451 8/31/2020 12:50:56 PM (No. 527014)
Fake news.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: felixcat 8/31/2020 12:58:35 PM (No. 527022)
I had the great displeasure of serving along side a black female commissioned officer with a chip on her shoulder almost as big as Michelle Obama. This was circa 1988. Everything was racial/racist to her. And my experiences in those 5 years of active duty were similar to poster #6's observations and this was 20 years ago. Yeah, we all know about the only color in the USMC is green but not sure when Condor44 served but his beloved Corps isn't so all green as it was during his years of service.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 8/31/2020 1:00:10 PM (No. 527027)
What troops said that? Not the Air Force guys servicing the A-10 Warthog refit & upgrades. Not the grunts who's lives were saved by NOT deploying them to Syria. Not the Navy guys building the Virginia class attack subs. And not the guys fitting out the USS Gerald R. Ford and John F. Kennedy aircraft carriers at Newport News. All of that activity courtesy of Trump, rebuilding the military and pulling us out of conflicts. The only ones who are against it are the Hawks like Mattis, Clinton, the clowns in NATO like Merkel, and all the others who need to see the US involved in foreign wars. Our troops LOVE this President.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: MickTurn 8/31/2020 1:08:52 PM (No. 527034)
Another 'new poll'...I'm throwing the BS flag on this one. I work as a Civilian in the Air Force. I run into Libs now and them but they are less than 20% of the workforce...
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Reply 46 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 8/31/2020 1:25:45 PM (No. 527051)
Give me a break!! Military members going for Hidin' Biden over President Trump??? WHAT a massive, steaming bucket load of human fecal material THIS is!!! And anyone who believes this, well, I've got a nice clean bridge in Brooklyn, barely used, for sale, CHEAP!!!
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Reply 47 - Posted by: Right Time 8/31/2020 1:32:10 PM (No. 527056)
Fake News and Utter Lies from the Left. The only US military that are unhappy with Trump are the Generals who waste send the troops into war. Yeah, I'm sure that the troops would rather be a target for a jihadist in Iraq, Syria, Iran, of Afghanistan than in a stateside copy posting....NOT!
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Reply 48 - Posted by: California Patriot 8/31/2020 1:54:23 PM (No. 527069)
My son is an airman and says that most he works with are overwhelming in support of President Trump, no matter their color or rank, not all but most.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: GO3 8/31/2020 2:36:36 PM (No. 527107)
The Military Times (aka The Army Times, The navy Times, etc.) is a Gannett publication and has been left for decades. So, yeah, the poll is likely bunk. OTOH, about 30% of the military voted for zippy in 2012. Maybe the numbers are inflated, but not that much.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: KatieJo 8/31/2020 2:54:57 PM (No. 527123)
I don't believe it either.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace 8/31/2020 3:00:01 PM (No. 527126)
No way Hose Say. Not in a million years. Probably the worst, most stupid fake news.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 8/31/2020 3:08:13 PM (No. 527132)
BS. Poll, as most of them are, (unless they only polled the Generals and Admirals, in which case it is probably accurate) But assuming it is accurate, how stupid do they have to be to want to be used as mere cannon fodder in more 'caliphate building' useless, Middle Eastern wars, and being hated by their 'Commander-In-Chief'?
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Chuzzles 8/31/2020 3:21:28 PM (No. 527142)
Still way way too much of Obama era military personnel left in our military. I seriously doubt that they would feel this way.
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Reply 54 - Posted by: cheeflo 8/31/2020 4:48:18 PM (No. 527218)
A sample of 1,018 people. Here is a link to the Military Times article. There are several caveats to this poll and the results, not the least of which is that the military is not a homogeneous population.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: red1066 8/31/2020 4:57:40 PM (No. 527227)
Are these the troops that grew up living off the government?
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Reply 56 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 9/1/2020 9:33:05 PM (No. 528490)
Guess these folks weren't around when Obama was president. No aviation gas, finding parts for aircraft in museums, etc. Guess they won't be there under Biden either when left go when military is reduced.
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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. –A boy received a week’s suspension after a teacher spotted a toy gun during an online class, KDVR reports. On Aug. 27, 12-year-old Isaiah Elliot, a Grand Mountain student, was in his online art class when he allegedly flashed a toy gun across his computer screen. It was neon green and black with an orange tip. On the side were the words “Zombie Hunter.” According to the sheriff’s report, the teacher said she assumed it was a toy gun, not a real gun. When the principal found out, Isaiah was given a five-day suspension. The El Paso
First COVID-19 death linked to
massive Sturgis biker rally; cases
reported across the nation
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Posted by NorthernDog 9/3/2020 2:46:51 PM Post Reply
The first COVID-19 death associated with a massive biker rally in Sturgis, South Dakota has been reported weeks after the event attracted more than 400,000 vehicles and drew widespread concern from public health officials. The death was reported by Minnesota Department of Health Infectious Disease Director Kris Ehresmann at a Wednesday briefing. Minnesota — South Dakota's neighbor to the east — is tracking an ongoing outbreak of 50 cases tied to the August event, Ehresmann said. A Minnesota man who died was in his 60s and had underlying health conditions. The 50-case outbreak only includes people who attended the event, Ehresmann said
Professor Jessica Krug admits she lied
about being black: ‘I cancel myself’
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Posted by Ribicon 9/3/2020 4:23:26 PM Post Reply
Despite publicly living as a black woman for years, George Washington University associate professor Jessica Krug admitted Thursday that she is actually a “culture leech”—who is white. “For the better part of my adult life, every move I’ve made, every relationship I’ve formed, has been rooted in the napalm toxic soil of lies,” Krug, 38, writes in a brief but life-shattering Medium post titled “The Truth, and the Anti-Black Violence of My Lies.” The self-proclaimed “historian of politics, ideas, and cultural practices in Africa and the African Diaspora” goes on to detail a lengthy trail of public deception.
Exclusive: Retired schoolteacher, 60, comes decked
out in buttons, blue hair and a Biden-Harris
sign to serve as one woman cheering squad
for Joe as he arrives in Kenosha- two days
after Trump drew a crowd of hundreds
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Posted by Imright 9/4/2020 6:33:31 AM Post Reply
A 60-year-old retired schoolteacher showed up to Kenosha's Civic Center Park on Thursday to serve as a one woman cheering squad for Joe Biden as he arrived in town - two days after President Trump's visit drew hundreds of supporters and protesters to the same downtown park. 'Maybe I'm in the wrong spot, I don't know,' Michelle Stauder told just before a few Biden supporters walked over to join her. 'I hope to get it started.' She waved a Biden-Harris sign and sported a red, white and blue cowboy hat, blue hair, flags and Joe buttons she crafted for the occasion, saying: 'I made my signs and buttons,
Ann Romney will Team Up with Michelle Obama
and Hollywood Liberals in Comedy Special to
Get Out the Vote
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Posted by ladydawgfan 9/4/2020 1:23:31 AM Post Reply
Ann Romney will team up with Michelle Obama this fall in a comedy special with Hollywood liberals to get out the vote. The list of Hollywood liberals expected to participate is endless: Cristela Alonzo, Tim Allen, Whitney Cummings, Will Ferrell, Kaia Gerber, Charlamagne Tha God, Tiffany Haddish, Jon Hamm, Scarlett Johansson, Liza Koshy, Jay Leno, Jaden Smith, Willow Smith, 2 Chainz and Lil Baby. The media is going to push this as a “non-partisan” event. Yeah, right. The Salt Lake Tribune reported: Ann Romney will team up with Michelle Obama on prime-time television to encourage people to vote this fall. The former first lady and Romney — whose husband, Sen. Mitt Romney,
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