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Andrew Sullivan: ‘These despicable
fanatics, like it or not, are now
in part the face of the Democrats’

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Posted By: MissMolly, 8/29/2020 4:33:46 AM

Andrew Sullivan’s take on the danger posed to Dems by chaos in the streets is worth a read. I don’t agree with all of it but Sullivan seems to be making a genuine attempt to not be guided by talking points from either side of the aisle and it’s interesting to watch even if it’s not a completely successful effort. Frankly, some of what he says seems to at least partly contradict other things he’s saying but I guess that’s what happens sometimes when you’re reacting honestly and not just picking sides. Mostly what comes through is his disgust

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Andrew Sullivan was one of us before he found a liberal boyfriend. Once in a while, the Andrew-who-used-to-be seeps into his comments.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Highlander 8/29/2020 6:06:23 AM (No. 524437)
One robotic chant these feral dogs like to shout is, “Silence is violence!” This, while they scream in diners’ ears, throw feces, and burn anything that can ignite.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: George R. 8/29/2020 6:30:45 AM (No. 524449)
They aren't extremists...they are run of the mill every day Democrats! This is what that party has devolved to; anarchists and traitors, e.g. John Kerry, Mark Warner, Sidney Blumenthal, etal.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DCGIRL 8/29/2020 6:37:10 AM (No. 524457)
A lot of these animals are paid to come out and destroy. Justice needs to do their job and designate this organization as well as Antifa as domestic terrorists. Then they can track the money and freeze the assets. Until then BLM will receive large contributions from some of our large corporations and crazy entertainment people. They are powerful because they have LOTS of money.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: udanja99 8/29/2020 8:02:54 AM (No. 524533)
Yes, #3. They are a shake down organization and nothing else. All that money and what have they done to help a single black American? Not one damned thing. And a lot of that cash is finding it’s way into the Biden campaign. That is something which PDT should be talking about on the campaign trail every single day. Biden is profiting from the riots. Not surprising given the way he profited from Ukraine and China.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ARKfamily 8/29/2020 8:23:33 AM (No. 524553)
I suppose some people will be offended by my remarks but here goes anyways. Seems like we have a police force because parents didn't do their job in the first place. We have parents who are abandoning, avoiding, dismissing their parental role to bring up children to be law-abiding, responsible, hard-working individuals. I guess I would offend even more if I added God-loving to that sentence but it is up to an individual if they want to invite God into their life or reject His ways.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: snapper451 8/29/2020 8:31:14 AM (No. 524562)
Local Fox station in Tampa, which has leaned left for over a decade now, is blaming all of this on Trump and urging people to vote against him in November. This morning their focus was on a "brave" white family who actually went to Washington yesterday for the Al Sharpton / race hustler event (like they were saints).
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MickTurn 8/29/2020 8:36:33 AM (No. 524575)
The Leadership of the Communist Democrats sit back and let the Useful Idiots, Antifa and BLM do their dirty work...then we have Soros and his cronies in the background financing all of it. Time to cast a wide net and bring them all to Justice! I vote Alligator Pits, it's so much fun watching them EAT!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: qr4j 8/29/2020 8:46:44 AM (No. 524593)
Well, Andrew, you don’t say?! “Say it isn’t so, Joe!”
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Reply 9 - Posted by: sadc 8/29/2020 9:01:42 AM (No. 524612)
The first mistake the Antifa group makes is to shorten the term- anti fascist, then move forward to model after Mussolini's worst fascist tactics. No free thinking, no difference of opinion or else you get violence and screaming zombies in your face. Remember the left always calls you or accuses you of what they are doing. They are "Anti Fascist"? No, they are the fascists. In normal times an invasion of violent people would call for arrests but today they hide behind the First Amendment but deny that right to everyone else.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum 8/29/2020 9:06:08 AM (No. 524619)
#3, I believe going after the funding is the most effective way to take down this Marxist organization. The American people certainly want the chaos and violence to stop. However, it must be done strategically because the democrats will jump if they get a whiff of an investigation into BLM. Antifa and Occupy Wall Street has lost most of whatever support they garnered which is why the wealthy founders needed a front group that was more sympathetic to many Americans and that is where BLM shot to the forefront of the “peaceful protests”. Now it is the face of the actual organization created to destroy this country. This is a very sticky situation because this administration is battling these violent anarchists and also have the media engaged to demonize any attempt to expose them for who and what they are. Don’t ever make the mistake of underestimating the evil that the left is prepared to commit in order to achieve their goal. Never before has any President had such a clear eyed vision of who and what they are and the determination to confront them and ultimately defeat them. This President scares them because he cannot be bought and will not back down in order to save the Republic. This really is an epic battle between good and evil and one that we must win come November. The President knows that the people funding this anarchy are determined and dangerous because they have been exposed. Their only course is to remove the mortal threat that this President presents. Our duty is to make sure that he wins in unassailable numbers in November. Then, Katie, bar the door. Lower the hammer and rid this country once and for all of the forces that seek to destroy it. Unleash every legal means and break the back of these anti-American zealots. God give the President continued wisdom and determination he needs to win this war.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: gone2pot 8/29/2020 9:28:49 AM (No. 524667)
Yeah but as long as some Broadway actor in a Dracula cape awkwardly spins around just before singing For What It's Worth, and Stephen Stills rides side to side behind him on a skateboard, rocking out on his Strat, these riots are fantastic. Cornpop!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Krause 8/29/2020 9:39:29 AM (No. 524687)
'any civil authority that permits, condones or dismisses violence, looting and mayhem in the streets disqualifies itself from any legitimacy' This applies to CNN, too!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: PostAway 8/29/2020 9:42:22 AM (No. 524690)
#5, far from being offended you will find great support for your beliefs from Conservatives. The sexual and women’s revolutions of the ‘60’s were based on envy and selfishness and their fruits are apparent. The civil rights movement was turned into the same. We are witnessing their evil spawn.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: janjan 8/29/2020 9:47:51 AM (No. 524702)
Has Sullivan been sleeping? The Democrats have been heading toward this cliff for decades.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 8/29/2020 9:51:35 AM (No. 524706)
What is a life long democrat to do?! They can't take part in destroying their country, but they can't bring themselves to vote for Trump. If they don't have the courage to see that their party is no longer their party, staying home is their only option.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: JoElla Bee 8/29/2020 9:57:57 AM (No. 524715)
The elected socialist/communists in the Democratic Party are doing metaphorically in the halls of government what their counterparts are doing in actuality to the rule of law in the streets of the cities and states that they control. Thankfully, more people are finally making the connection! Hopefully, that is also helping them to understand how Democrat policies and legislation are weapons with equal destruction to those used in the streets against the United States of America. May we stand with God and country, and may He bless and be with us.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: The Remnants 8/29/2020 10:03:28 AM (No. 524723)
I read that law enforcement in Kenosha had reason to examine a van that was suspected of having something to do with the chaos in the city, and when they did, they discovered masks and some kinds of weapons and other materials used in their rioting, but they also said they found some "suspected controlled substances". In Portland, a man was quoted as saying he brought free weed to the protestors every night. The behavior is so irrational that it is not surprising that they are taking something other than energy drinks.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: starboard 8/29/2020 10:55:46 AM (No. 524810)
These ugly thugs and miscreants are the Children of liberal mothers. They are drop outs, latch keys and runaways, or spoiled rotten kids who were never disciplined and taught basic life values. Along with Liberal parents or no parents, seeds of this hateful thinking are also planted in our public schools by leftist teachers and their union leadership. Many of them look to be in their late teens and early twenties. This age group is easily swayed into this type of activity and are susceptible to brain washing by terrorist hierarchy and zealots. These hollow vessels have become the children of a Satanic cult supported by Soros and other progressive organizations disguised as BLM or other bogus causes. They are unclean, uneducated and full of hate. What they have in common is belonging to this cult. They now have purpose and like being accepted. What needs to happen is they need to be treated like the non-combative terrorists we have in Gitmo and rounded up like cattle and brought to a reeducation camp in the boonies far way from civilization. This is an enormous problem that needs to be addressed promptly. Also, the government needs to search where they are coming from and go after their training headquarters and destroy it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Kate318 8/29/2020 10:56:28 AM (No. 524813)
This violence needs to be branded for what it is: Democrat riots, Democrat looting, Democrat destruction and Democrat killing. That’s how I will refer to it from now on.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 8/29/2020 10:59:49 AM (No. 524823)
Andrew, you do not seem to want to accept that your party has become the party of fascism. I can't think of one democrat that condemned any of this until their poll numbers starting dropping. Andrew you cannot in good conscience call a leader who defers to the states and asks them to ASK for help a fascist. Please start looking in the mirror and tell the truth at least to yourself. I used to be such a big fan and even wrote to you on occasion, our falling out came because of same sex marriage but I have come to accept that maybe you were right on that.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 8/29/2020 11:04:51 AM (No. 524830)
The extremists include Nutty, Nasty Nancy and all levels from the street thugs up to the Speaker of the House. Impossible to sort the extremists from the "normal" folks. And, increasingly, normal, sane people who have called themselves Democrats for generations are becoming Trump Republicans. THAT is how the sorting works, the few sane ones leave, and then there is the Dems, 100% ideologically pure leftist extremism.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: JackBurton 8/29/2020 11:24:22 AM (No. 524868)
On the one hand, with the Dems permission and support, there are anarchists rioting. On the other hand, if they decide that the rioting is bad and they shut it down.... it proves that the rioting was Dem managed all along. They're not gonna win on this one.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared 8/29/2020 11:48:35 AM (No. 524924)
Sullivan said "if liberals do not defend order, fascists will". They're two flavors of the same product.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: NotaBene 8/29/2020 11:58:20 AM (No. 524941)
Andrew Sullivan should be grateful he can now pee in ladies rooms. S/
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Arby 8/29/2020 12:06:43 PM (No. 524963)
You can't suppress your reason forever.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/29/2020 12:28:17 PM (No. 524994)
AG Barr or somebody should investigate the infrastructure used for paying and feeding the rioters. Same as was done for destroying isis. Foreign forces are at work here, not the dims. But, the dims and msm know who they are. Round up these animals and send them to North Korea to be re-educated. Kimmie seems to be good at this.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Sully 8/29/2020 12:55:44 PM (No. 525037)
Sullivan, give me a break. He wants to shoot a few bulllseyes plus some innocent repbulicans just to prove he's still hates them. No self respecting intellectual can fail to condemn the blood thirsty riots. But Sullivan, since he a narcissist with a reputation (and an ego) to protect must also claim that Trump is crass for being able to restore order. Insufferable. An honest man woulda joined the Walkaway movement. it has been many years since Sullivan was worth reading. I must remember to forget him.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX 8/29/2020 2:56:29 PM (No. 525145)
They've always been there, but mainstream democrats always figured they could win despite them. Principles always lose out to politics.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/29/2020 3:17:20 PM (No. 525160)
The Dems have been pitting one group against the other hoping to convince them they are genuinely sympathetic... now it seems most of the groups are witnessing the antifa and blm violence and worrying about their own protection and safety...and perhaps the police are needed to guarantee law and order..now Californians need to break down pelosi's wall around her mansion and give her a taste of her own medicine...
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/29/2020 3:43:19 PM (No. 525170)
It seems to me that Pelosi and her minions, including Sullivan, are totally willing for everyone to blame Soros, and/or any other cabal you could name so that the blame doesn't land on their front porch. ''And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.'' (Matt. 24)
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Reply 31 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 8/29/2020 5:17:20 PM (No. 525214)
"without order, there is no room for any other issue" Absolutely true for rational people. The hard Left is driven by emotion. To them, rioting is an acceptable way to get what they want. Note that if you try to have a discussion with a Leftist, they scream at you. You are repulsed but they think it's normal way to "discuss". Now, put them in charge and you have a country run through violence and without law. Further, the various Leftist factions are going to fight with each other for control. That means where they rub elbows, it will get VERY nasty. Think of the current problems in the inner cities where various gangs clash. This is normal there, the law of the jungle, and people mowed down just because they are in between the two sides, or three sides, or four sides. This chaos is real in some areas of the US and it is what the dems are willing to allow to happen to win. Winning at ANY cost. Some of the dems are fooling themselves into thinking they will put the chaos genie back into the bottle once they win. The agents of chaos will mow down such stupid dems in a flash. The Lori Lightfoot's will be swept away before they know what is happening. Nasty Pelousy will be buried in her freezer full of Häagen-Dazs. There will be no use for the moronic industrialists that have cozied up to the dems. "Nice business you have here. It's ours now. Get out." Some may think I am being harsh but such a dystopian future is not all that far away. Yes, I am sure an extremely well armed citizenry would rise to fight back and probably even win over time but the country we would have left would not be America. Do you think we would have the wisdom to reforge a country anywhere near as good as we already have. Right now we have exactly ONE Donald Trump and we haven't seen his like in a century or more. The "smart" people have mostly proven they are actually pretty dumb, some are twisted, and some get pulled into rat holes like global warming, and others are useless bureaucrats. WHO would rebuild? What would they make? Would bitterness and anger twist any new creation into hideous forms? Lincoln knew what was at risk in the Civil War and he fought like a demon to win it because failure would have been catastrophic. We have a vastly under appreciated gift, an amazing free nation that has risen above all nations throughout history. We need to vote like our lives depend on it, because they literally may.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 8/29/2020 9:31:50 PM (No. 525352)
When someone's writing contradicts other things they are writing is what happens when facts (honestly) run into picking political sides.
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Posted by Pluperfect 8/30/2020 4:48:06 AM Post Reply
On the ninety-third night of violent antifa riots in Portland, a group of protesters occupied the lobby of Mayor Ted Wheeler’s (D-Portland) apartment building as a mob held a block party outside and activists shined strobe lights into Wheeler’s window. The mob demanded the complete abolition of the police by 2022. Meanwhile, a group of rioters set fire to the Portland Police Association building, targeting the police union for what appears to have been the fourth time since the police killing of George Floyd. This unrest came the day after Wheeler sent a letter to President Donald Trump, declining his offer to send federal officers. Protesters entered the lobby
Appeals court denies Michael Flynn and
Justice Department's effort to end his case
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Posted by Ladyhawke 8/31/2020 12:54:00 PM Post Reply
A federal appeals court ruled Monday against Michael Flynn and the Justice Department in their request to quickly shut down his criminal case. The 8-2 decision restores power to a judge to question the Justice Department's moves in the politically divisive case, when Attorney General William Barr dropped charges against President Donald Trump's former national security adviser earlier this year despite twice pleading guilty to lying under oath to lying to the FBI. Flynn had fought District Judge Emmet Sullivan's decision to ask a third-party lawyer to argue against the Justice Department's dismissal in the case, and his plans to hold a hearing, which has not yet happened.
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