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How Many COVID Deaths Are There, Really?

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Posted By: StormCnter, 6/26/2020 8:13:26 AM

Currently the Centers for Disease Control says there have been 121,809 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. Most people, seeing that figure or reading newspaper headlines about Wuhan virus deaths, assume that means that in 121,809 cases, COVID-19 has been the cause of death. But that isn’t true at all. This Issues & Insights editorial does a good job of bringing together some of the relevant data. But let’s start with something they didn’t mention: this acknowledgement by the Director of the Illinois Department of Public Health: I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of people dying of COVID.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 6/26/2020 8:45:24 AM (No. 457606)
More lies, right out in the open. And they STILL have millions of people hiding under their beds. Man I hope somebody pays for this. But I doubt it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 6/26/2020 8:47:16 AM (No. 457608)
This low number is not true. Joe Biden said there are 120 MILLION covid deaths in the US! Joe would't lie....would he?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 6/26/2020 9:11:09 AM (No. 457643)
Slo Jo can’t tell the difference, he reads, sorta kinda, what the handlers place in front of him. Nurse Ratchett is out of camera.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Kate318 6/26/2020 9:21:02 AM (No. 457657)
What kind of monster subjects a dying person, already in pain, to a fricking swab test for COVID?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: coyote 6/26/2020 9:32:45 AM (No. 457684)
If the percentage of infected persons relative to the number tested has gone up, then there is an increase in the disease. If the percentage is down, it only means more have been tested.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99 6/26/2020 9:37:23 AM (No. 457693)
“ *** In California, San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond investigated 194 COVID-19 deaths through mid-May and found that only six could be clearly claimed as caused by COVID-19. “We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” said Desmond.” This story broke several weeks ago and I posted a comment here using the ratio of 6 out of 194 on the national number of reported covid deaths. I just ran the numbers again, the ratio being less than 3 deaths per 100 people as is the case in San Diego. I rounded it up to 3 deaths per 100 and the current number of real covid deaths nationally is 3,654. Put that in your mask and wear it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Maggie2u 6/26/2020 9:41:08 AM (No. 457697)
My SIL died last month. In her obituary my brother listed the cause as pancreatic cancer and (non covid-19) complications. He didn't want her death to be falsely counted as from the virus.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: rikkitikki 6/26/2020 10:10:11 AM (No. 457741)
The CDC itself, back in 2009, did a lookback on the H1N1 pandemic, and estimated that for every person who tested positive, there were another 79 people who had been infected but were never tested. Any calculation of mortality rate for CV19 that does not apply such a factor to normalize for this effect (such as every estimate put forth by the CDC so far) overstates reality, perhaps by a very large amount. https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates/April_October_17.htm
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Starboard_side 6/26/2020 10:45:10 AM (No. 457802)
First, if you remove the nearly 40,000 from nursing homes and assisted living facilities due to Dem governor orders, it starts to look more like the a tough flu season. Second, my BIL just started work at a SoCal hospital, and he was alarmed at how empty the place was, which was explained they expected a massive Covid patient load, but none came. They only treated 3 patients, but they still have an empty hospital. That same county, Orange, shows they've tested 231,902 people, have 11,511 cases, 306 deaths, 394 hospitalized (147 in ICU). Third, they aren't reporting recovered patients very well at all. The news still reports 2.4 million cases, but clearly over half have recovered, and likely everyone up-to May 15th. Los Angeles County has not reported even 1 case of recovery. The whole point of the shut-down was to allow the nation to build PPE supplies, and ventilators, to ensure the hospital system was not over-run like in NYC. Yet, even NYC didn't use the hospital ship that was sent to them in any meaningful way. Neither did Los Angeles county.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/26/2020 11:14:12 AM (No. 457849)
Agree with the article, but the oppression from the emergency declarations will not be lifted this year, or next. The politicians have no intention of lifting social distancing, or masking, this year, or next, if ever. The politicians have inhaled complete power over us, and they don't intend to give it up.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/26/2020 11:20:14 AM (No. 457861)
How accurate is the reporting on COVID-19? It doesn't seem accurate at all. How can the United States, a country of 330 million people, account for 25% of CV19 fatalities worldwide? The numbers aren't believable. A person has CV19 and pneumonia when they died. What killed them? Its a gray area. How can reporting on CV19 be accurate at all? Read about a study where scientists cataloged viruses that were not documented. By the time they completed the study, they had documented over 200k more viruses. Prove to me the Trump haters didn't take a contagious virus that was already out there, and hype it to create a worldwide panic. If China took it one step further, and released a virus from one of their labs on the entire world...what would you even begin to call an act like that? It would be an act of war perpetrated on the entire world. One thing that should be done is when they report how many people die daily from CV19, they should also report how many people die daily overall. Came across a report that said how many people die daily. As of 2018, it was 7452. Doesn't really matter. The people fudging the CV19 numbers will fudge any other numbers to 'prove' their point. Its an election year, and the Trump critics are doing everything in their power to unseat him to regain control and power. Its frightening to behold the depths they will go. One thing CV19 has done. It has shone how incompetent, dishonest, and tyrannical most of our leadership is at all levels. Sadly, both parties. Lockdowns and social distancing are unsustainable. As for masks, if a person wants to wear one, that is their choice. If a person wants to stay at home to avoid getting sick, that is their choice. Don't force this nonsense on the entire population.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 6/26/2020 11:59:57 AM (No. 457952)
I was chatting with a neighbor, a retired police officer yesterday, and the deaths in our county came up. We discussed them, and I sent him a link to the county info page. His comment on this data was "It looks to me like a normal death rate distribution by age". And note that the death figures below age 80 have remained unchanged for at least a month. No new Wuhan flu deaths in our county of 600,000 under the age of 80 in a month. I think his observation is a pretty good one. This looks like a normal death rate distribution. 0-9 = none 10-19 = none 20-29 = none 30-39 = none 40-49 = 2 50-59 = none 60-69 = 4 70-79 = 10 80+ = 65
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Italiano 6/26/2020 12:11:03 PM (No. 457967)
My favorite "COVID Deaths" are the five gunshot stiffs in Washington and the idiot in Colorado with seven times the legal blood-alcohol level.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq 6/26/2020 12:46:46 PM (No. 458033)
We will never know the answer. But we will have to live with whatever narrative they spew.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 6/26/2020 11:45:54 PM (No. 458623)
We have had an uptick in FL but people aren't dropping like flies. How many of the tests are false positive and who made the tests? If hundreds of cars are lined up to be tested, does the tester change outer garments as they go from one car to the other? If I am car # 100 and 25 cars in front of me test positive, what are the chances it spreads thru the person's clothing who is swabbing? They are protected, am I?
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