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Just How Exaggerated Is
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Posted By: PageTurner, 5/28/2020 6:46:44 AM

As the “official” tally of COVID-19 deaths tops 100,000 in the U.S., we keep hearing how that number is likely a low-ball estimate. But there’s far more evidence that the death count has been knowingly exaggerated – possibly by a very wide margin. A recent Seattle Times article pretty much lays out the charade going on. The headline reads: “Washington state’s actual coronavirus death toll may be higher than current tallies, health officials say.” But the story itself leads one to the exact opposite conclusion. Well down in the article, the reporter reveals that: “The rapid onslaught of this coronavirus forced

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Reply 1 - Posted by: RuckusTom 5/28/2020 7:09:28 AM (No. 424109)
A lot of Covid car accidents, Covid heart attacks, Covid old age deaths, Covid cancer deaths ...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NancyD 5/28/2020 7:22:27 AM (No. 424118)
The numbers are inflated. No doubt. When people are being paid for saying the death is covid related, that was incentive enough to lie. The media/dems wants the high numbers. Why is it that most deaths are in the blue states?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: George R. 5/28/2020 7:26:18 AM (No. 424121)
Many Coroners have expressed outrage at the States insistence to list the Chinese virus as a cause of death, in order to inflate the monies received as a result! Is there ONE Democrat with a modicum of integrity? Methinks not!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Strike3 5/28/2020 7:49:07 AM (No. 424128)
Now that the media ghouls have reached their magic 100K number can they shut up about it?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mobyclik 5/28/2020 7:49:10 AM (No. 424130)
Yep, it ALWAYS boils down to that old adage: FOLLOW THE MONEY.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Judy W. 5/28/2020 7:56:02 AM (No. 424137)
It's not to get people to care. Medicare or Medicaid, I forget which, pays hospitals far more for ICU COVID-19 cases than for other cases. Is that an incentive or what?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 5/28/2020 8:08:56 AM (No. 424152)
Coroners became Corona-ers.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: lakerman1 5/28/2020 8:10:25 AM (No. 424155)
john Glenn's wife died from Kung Flu, at the age of 102. Her death was reported sadly. think about that. she led a life of privilege, as the wife of a military pilot, astronaut, senator, presidential candidate. Kung Flu killed her? Or did age 102 kill her? There is an old Polish expression -' may you live to be 100!' That's enough.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 5/28/2020 8:17:12 AM (No. 424163)
As exaggerated as they can possibly make it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: The Remnants 5/28/2020 8:31:12 AM (No. 424184)
#6 I understand that Medicare paid hospitals $13,000 for every covid-19 admission and $39,000 for every covid-19 admission put on ventilators..Still the U.S. Navy ships Comfort and Mercy on either coasts, or Franklin Graham's portable hospital set up in Central Park, or the portable hospitals set up by army engineers were all barely used. And then Mrs.Birx being so nonchalant about admitting that patients who had other serious illnesses and then contacted covid-19 would be counted as death by covid-19. Messed-up data all over the place.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/28/2020 8:47:42 AM (No. 424206)
I heard the hospitals were given $35K for each Covid death...no wonder they are cookin' da Books!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/28/2020 8:54:27 AM (No. 424217)
Consider that we just passed 100K deaths. If you rough estimate overcounting at 10% - 20%, that's 10,000 to 20,000 deaths NOT actually directly due to the virus. Also consider that many people have apparently had the virus that were never tested or diagnosed. Less actual deaths divided my larger number of cases results in LOWER lethality which is another scary number being tossed around. The reality is, even in "normal" times, a lot of the numbers associated with infectious diseases are not absolute facts. They are the results of statistical samples and analysis based on a model. So the unreliable numbers associated with COVID are being compared to the calculated analysis of other diseases. The comparison is not meaningless but it is just an indicator, NOT a fact. People that use statistical analysis KNOW this. They KNOW that their numbers are not the same as KNOWING you have $7395.25 in your bank account. It's more like knowing the average bank account in the US has $2438.56 in it. It is interesting, but trying to apply it to an individual account is almost meaningless. The problem is that "experts" like to talk with authority, even when they know their data can't be certain enough to back them up. Another problem is that media tends to take such calculated data and treat them as facts, either because they are too dumb to know the difference or they are happy to report distortions that follow their agenda. Sometimes the calculations approach reality. Other times they are nowhere close.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: udanja99 5/28/2020 9:00:50 AM (No. 424233)
Given my lack of trust in anything coming from government agencies, my guess is that the actual number of people who died from CV19 and nothing else is probably around 10,000. The other 90,000 are propaganda put out by leftist government bureaucrats and the media with no other purpose than to “Get Trump”.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq 5/28/2020 9:13:45 AM (No. 424255)
My guess is the true number is half what they claim.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: 24tea@Mag 5/28/2020 9:13:47 AM (No. 424256)
It’s all about money - greed and Democrat are the same.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bigfatslob 5/28/2020 9:46:21 AM (No. 424310)
"Beat up the number to make people take it seriously", really? Well guess what if it happens again but it is worse than this 'spring cold' no one will believe it or take it seriously. Honesty would have been the best policy but that doesn't work in this environment of politics. By August we will know people still wearing masks are all be democrats or frightened sheeple.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: frew 5/28/2020 9:55:55 AM (No. 424330)
People ought to think before they endorse a silly conspiracy theory. Filing a false death certificate with the state is a felony, so that's not a thing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: curious1 5/28/2020 10:01:31 AM (No. 424337)
#17, you should get out more. Here's some investigative reporting that took place in NYC last month: https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-funeral-directors-in-covid-19-epicenter-doubt-legitimacy-of-deaths/
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Reply 19 - Posted by: felixcat 5/28/2020 10:08:25 AM (No. 424343)
This entire pandemic crisis is BS. I understand Trump was between a rock and a hard place but he received horrible and PARTISAN advice from his so-called medical experts Fauci and Birx. I think he trusted that the Governors would do the right thing but unfortunately, too many did the very worst thing and took advantage of this manufactured crisis to screw We The People and Trump come November. I am sick of this garbage social distancing, etc. The virtue signaling of wearing a mask and per the CDC - any cloth covering is sufficient - really? And if I hear one more talking head on Fox News go we are approaching 100,000 deaths, blah blah. Sick of NYC and Cuomo whining all the time. Good God - we fought a Civil War with outhouses and no hygiene and two World wars with no hand sanitizers, etc.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Right Time 5/28/2020 10:31:22 AM (No. 424371)
Easy answer. Subtract the death toll from all causes for the same location over the same period last year from what is being reported as due to COVID-19, and that is your answer. You should see that it amounts to nothing more than a bad-flu year
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Bluefindad 5/28/2020 10:40:45 AM (No. 424381)
Science has been made into a religion. It has been perverted and corrupted from its once pure desire to arrive at objective truth using established empirical methods. Further, the ethics of scientists have been so badly twisted that they are no longer above using their stature and authority to present false data to support their lofty positions. They 'adjust' temperature data and claim a vast decline in polar bear populations to support global warming. The American people can only be fooled by the veneer cast by science as god for so long. We are now looking around and realize that the vast majority of us have not been at death's door as a result of a visit from this virus, and that the most we've heard is that a friend of a friend's grandmother or grandfather was afflicted. We are losing our fear of the man behind the curtain.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hard Nard 5/28/2020 10:42:32 AM (No. 424388)
Take away the covid payments and watch the death rate drop dramatically.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: rikkitikki 5/28/2020 11:14:38 AM (No. 424427)
In just a few more days, we'll be told that there have been more people who have died from CV19....than have actually died...reminiscent of those precincts in Philadelphia that reported voter turnouts in excess of 100%...
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Reply 24 - Posted by: rikkitikki 5/28/2020 11:16:35 AM (No. 424432)
Why are most CV19 deaths in Blue States? I dunno...because there's a financial incentive to fudge the numbers, they're run by democrats, and democrats long ago lost the ability to tell the truth?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: cor-vet 5/28/2020 12:07:23 PM (No. 424480)
The joke about the shark attack victims death being reported as a Covid death, is in reality, not a joke!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: DVC 5/28/2020 12:38:26 PM (No. 424517)
My guess is that it seems unlikely that more than 10% of the deaths are "died with Wuhan flu" rather than "died from Wuhan flu" IN MY STATE. In NYC, who knows, it could be 50%. Since 75% of deaths attributed to Wuhan flu in my county are in the 80+ age group, and approximately the same percentage were people in nursing homes, those are probably pretty legitimate cases where a person was killed by this flu. The remaining 25ish percent, are probably pretty legitimate here. But....as they say, when you get to the Hudson "we're not in Kansas any more, Toto". I wonder how many cases of completely egregious abuse of this excuse are out there, outside of the NY/NJ area where it seems that there was a political motive to jam every case possible onto the Wuhan bandwagon. Big Dem cities...trying to scare people....looking for more handout money, so perhaps "enhancing" the body count....hard to say. Past history is that they are corrupt and they lie, all the time.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: rytwng 5/28/2020 12:56:45 PM (No. 424534)
It's like running up the score at a basketball game.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: mathman 5/28/2020 2:51:19 PM (No. 424605)
There were supposed to be upwards of 2 million by now. China failed, big time. The stuff just does not kill very well. They must be encouraged to try again, with a more fatal virus this time. How can they rule the world if they can't even kill a million?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Geoman 5/28/2020 4:45:44 PM (No. 424659)
"Covid" is a submission word, just like the mask has become a submission symbol. If the Chinese virus response-by-democrat deaths were calculated, they would exceed actual deaths by virus.
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