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'Swift Boat' sequel? Military pitch
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Posted By: MissMolly, 2/27/2020 5:05:34 AM

A seven-month deployment in Afghanistan shrouded in secrecy is a key piece of Pete Buttigieg’s pitch to voters in the 2020 presidential race, with the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor arguing that his status as a veteran and his time in a war zone give him foreign policy gravitas and first-hand military experience none of his Democratic primary rivals can claim. That supposed strength, however, ultimately could become a weakness in a potential general election match-up with President Trump and a Republican Party that is already eyeing ways to turn Mr. Buttigieg’s time as a Naval intelligence officer into a liability. Some of those who served alongside Mr. Buttigieg in Afghanistan

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley 2/27/2020 5:38:43 AM (No. 330856)
I am immediately suspicious when some political wanna be touts his military service as a reason he should be elected. As was the case with McCain and Kerry, he may have just been filling a square for political ambitions later. As is sometimes the case with others, it is a complete fraud. Until I know for sure otherwise, I assume the fraud. Way too much embellishing going on. Most of us did nothing great and could have been replaced by a trained monkey. Yet, all these guys who want to be elected to something were super heroes? Doubtful.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 2/27/2020 5:54:23 AM (No. 330860)
People with certain Degrees can get direct commission. Such as Medical,Law.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LoneVoice 2/27/2020 6:25:13 AM (No. 330872)
In the Vietnam war they called guys bragged like Buttigieg a qu*** in the rear with the gear. Apparently in his case that's what he was quite literally, in country, but at little to no risk to himself. The guy didn't even go through OCS. Some hero
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Red Jeep 2/27/2020 6:31:49 AM (No. 330875)
The only reason this small town mayor, Pete Buttigieg, is in the Presidential Race is because he is a homosexual, the first homosexual (that we know of) to run for President.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Muguy 2/27/2020 6:43:25 AM (No. 330880)
If Buttjudge is proud of his military service and touts it as a reason for his nomination to be President, then he should be PROUD of his service. So, LET"S HEAR ALL ABOUT IT.... IF he was in military intelligence, perhaps there are things he cannot talk about, but his term of service seems very short. Rumors abound as to how his brief In-and-out service was so short. Did he create John F'ing Kerry FAKE situations to ESCAPE military service? One thing is VERY SURE, and that is the FACT that there was an ALMOST TOTAL MEDIA BLACKOUT in vetting Nobama, and we were sold a bill of goods. Several attempted to look into his background, and were seemingly thrwarted as racists. Madam Broomstick had hoped that any honest look into her VOLUMINOUS background of shady and questionable ethics would be considered "anti-woman", so is any verification of Buttjudge's military service time to be considered "anti-gay" and must not be looked into?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: F15 Gork 2/27/2020 6:58:12 AM (No. 330885)
Petey was a shoe clerk. He wouldn’t know the tip of the spear if it poked him in the tail pipe.......though he probably might enjoy that.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Lazyman 2/27/2020 7:26:17 AM (No. 330909)
The guy served and splitting hairs on that is crazy unless he is caught embellishing his experience. As a Vet,, I won't vote for him because personally Trump has done more combat than any of them to keep us free.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: seamusm 2/27/2020 7:42:20 AM (No. 330922)
#1 - John McCain may have eventually become a flake but please don't include him in any discussion of 'stolen valor'. Service Academy grad - Military pilot - shot down in combat - POW. However much he later became a political twit, he served the USA with distinction.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Strike3 2/27/2020 7:46:05 AM (No. 330928)
Working in the intel branch necessarily keeps people away from the front lines to avoid capture. Pete is not allowed to reveal details so we have to take him at his word unless it is proven that he has lied. I thank him for his service but would not consider voting for him due to his poor record as mayor and his promotion of his gay life. That is not a leadership asset and should not even be mentioned.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: JrSample 2/27/2020 7:59:49 AM (No. 330950)
The primary criticism of John Kerry was what he did AFTER he came back from Vietnam. He slandered active duty military personnel and Veterans during the Fulbright hearings and his involvement with the VVAW. He also traveled to Paris and met with the North Vietnamese government, then returned to the US to plead their case. He threw away his decorations during a protest at the White House while claiming that US troops were committing mass atrocities in Vietnam, then decades later, the had the utter gall to try to make his Vietnam service the centerpiece of his political campaign. If he really witnessed war crimes being committed, why didn't he do anything about it, then? He was an officer giving orders. Buttagieg served in a support role in Intel for a short deployment, and did not come back to the states and slander veterans.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: walcb 2/27/2020 8:32:09 AM (No. 330980)
His military service is not his weakness. His weakness is that he is a Bernie Sanders admirer and the son of a communist who supports socialist policies. That's enough for me.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: The Remnants 2/27/2020 8:40:11 AM (No. 330994)
Trump does not have to do anything; they are pretty much doing it for him.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: KatieJo 2/27/2020 8:58:15 AM (No. 331016)
Progressive liberal men are not warriors. Their entire value system spits in the face of strength, honor, courage, and raw masculinity. I cannot think of a single real macho man hero type that is/was a liberal. It is entirely incompatible with who they are. Mayor Pete "served" for what he could gain from the experience and I'm fairly certain that he was positioned so that the odds of him being in any real danger were minimal.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: earlybird 2/27/2020 9:48:09 AM (No. 331066)
I read that he was in Afghanistan for only five months, so that number has grown. He was posted out of harm’s way, and drove a vehicle hauling ? (officers?) outside the “wire” something like 19 times. Buttsy kept count for future reference. That’s the kind of a guy he is. I listened to him in the last two debates. He is an insufferable prig. Right up there with Jean Fraud.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ledwith 2/27/2020 9:56:39 AM (No. 331069)
He uses his service to make points on gun control and assault weapons. Did he go through weapons training? Did he qualify on an assault weapon? At what level?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: globalwarmer 2/27/2020 10:24:54 AM (No. 331099)
His peers didn't call McCain "songbird" for nothing.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: padiva 2/27/2020 10:33:15 AM (No. 331108)
PB's short military experience makes him as experienced as Eisenhower./s
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Reply 18 - Posted by: mc squared 2/27/2020 10:41:50 AM (No. 331119)
FTA: God help the person that wants to question a veteran’s military service. /snip/, said Maura C. Sullivan, New Hampshire co-chair of the Buttigieg campaign Like race and some religions, military service grants permanent immunity. I was in the service but that hardly qualifies me as an expert in world affairs. FDR wasn't and that turned out OK.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: MDConservative 2/27/2020 10:42:30 AM (No. 331121)
FTA: “God help the person that wants to question a veteran’s military service." That's the nugget that will be repeated, repeated, and repeated. Pete will don his "Thank Me for My Service" ballcap, and the rest is automatic. He's a veteran; PDT is not...guess the election ought to be unanimous.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Italiano 2/27/2020 10:59:56 AM (No. 331147)
Sorry, but I do not do the "I respect his service" mantra, especially for ticket-punching chairwarmers like the Buttster.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: little guy 2/27/2020 11:14:52 AM (No. 331163)
Note to ex-mayor Peter Buddha-jug: Dear Pete --- Thank you for your service. It is more than most millennials will ever do and yes, you put yourself in harms way for your fellow citizens no matter the reason. If the your direct commanders thought you were FOBAR, you would have been drummed out --- but you weren't. That says something. I, for one, appreciate that. And I thank you for your service to the USA. Sincerely, no joke, from the bottom of my heart. Regards Little Guy PS: I wouldn't vote for you if you were running unopposed for dog catcher or mouse trap setter.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: little guy 2/27/2020 11:16:45 AM (No. 331165)
FUBAR ... please, not "fobar".
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chuzzles 2/27/2020 12:06:59 PM (No. 331237)
I read the Swift Boat book by John O'Neill, who by the way was a democrat himself. But he was also a Swiftie and he would not stand by and let Kerry get away with his falsehoods. So I am wondering where the guys who served with Mayor Ferret Face are at the moment? Do they not care about the possible stolen valor here? Some good and patriotic military people need to step forward again and bust this guy's chops.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: rytwng 2/27/2020 12:09:46 PM (No. 331243)
Pete BuFu war hero. Shades of Jon Kerry, except John was married to a woman.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 2/27/2020 12:17:27 PM (No. 331252)
While Butt-Gig was safe and sound in some armored base, my USMC officer nephew was leading a fire team in combat in Afghanistan. And my nephew was KIA in a fire fight, while Butt-Gig never missed a warm meal in the chow hall, hanging with his boy friends. Not the same thing at all, Butt-Gig.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Foghorn 2/27/2020 12:22:30 PM (No. 331258)
Adm. Roy Hoffman was Kerry's commander in Viet Nam. Kerry was assigned to Swift Boats and commanded a Swift Boat. Hoffman and several Sailors campaigned against Kerry. Buttigieg needs to be very careful with this because his former CO may come out with a statement of his behavior in the military. There are still those officers and enlisted that don't agree with gays in the military.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: udanja99 2/27/2020 12:56:58 PM (No. 331295)
“God help the person that wants to question a veteran’s military service." From the same party which elected a draft dodger. Twice.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 2/27/2020 1:41:44 PM (No. 331345)
Think he ever dropped the soap in the shower over there?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: MissMann 2/27/2020 2:42:07 PM (No. 331404)
I don't care that he's gay or married and I think it's great he served his country, for whatever reason. I won't vote for him because he is a red diaper crazy leftist. Stay focused people. Don't let the left frame the argument.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 2/27/2020 3:39:07 PM (No. 331439)
This sequel will be unnecessary. Mary Pete will not get the nomination for president. Possible that he would get the nomination for vice-president, though. Swiftboaters should not waste the effort, yet.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: panther361 2/27/2020 6:15:30 PM (No. 331541)
Trot out a certified copy (or original) of your DD214 and let's have a look. Any other vet of Afghanistan could sort it out with a few minutes of note compairing. If he doesn't pack the gear he should dig a hole and crawl in.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: NYbob 2/27/2020 8:41:17 PM (No. 331630)
All kinds of people have worn the uniform of one of the US Armed Forces. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine with an honorable discharge. John Kerry was awarded medals, yes he wrote at least one of the recommendations himself, but he got the medals and still has them. His famous moment of tossing medals over a Pentagon fence happened because ANOTHER soldier gave his medals to Kerry and Kerry gladly posed as some kind of principled protestor. Military service is not armor for a creep, liar, or bad person. In the case of Buttigieg, all you need is a random selection of one of his quotes and it is obvious what a deeply creepy deviate he is and that is before you get to his sexual orientation which he feels compelled to cram down the public's throat.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: DVC 2/28/2020 3:20:29 AM (No. 331779)
#32, Oswald was dishonorably discharged from the Marine Corps.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: StormCnter 2/28/2020 5:33:58 AM (No. 331798)
#32 is correct. From Wikipedia: Oswald was honorably released from active duty in the Marine Corps into the reserve ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald
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