US-Iran conflict: More than 30 Iran strike
soldiers diagnosed with traumatic brain
damage after Trump downplayed injuries
Independent (UK),
by
Clark Mindock
Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk,
1/24/2020 1:30:15 PM
New York - The Pentagon has announced that 34 US service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries resulting from the Iranian missile attack on US forces in Iraq earlier this month, in spite of Donald Trump's downplaying of the wounds as "headaches".
The strike came following Mr Trump's decision to kill Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, and the US said at the time that no American personnel were injured. Since then, Mr Trump has acknowledged that the Americans had been injured, but downplayed their significance.
According to the Pentagon, eight of the service members were flown to the US from Germany for treatment, nine are still receiving treatment in Germany,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
curious1 1/24/2020 1:49:07 PM (No. 297279)
Since President Trump wasn't there, who among the military brass passed on the information to him, and notice how the 'media' try to twist this after the fact. Showing what scum leftists are, especially the ones infesting and controlling the 'media'.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
seamusm 1/24/2020 1:56:47 PM (No. 297286)
How much you want to bet that injuries were at the time downplayed in order to make Trump look look bad now.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/24/2020 2:05:13 PM (No. 297295)
Concussions. Or suspected concussions. Some were flown to Germany for further checking. More than half have returned to service. Some are in Kuwait. Observation is the normal protocol after a suspected concussion. There were no head wounds.
I had a concussion in an automobile accident. It took a while to get over nystagmus, a kind of vertigo. (Doctors use a bowl half filled with marbles to illustrate what is going on.)
This is a media gotcha.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 1/24/2020 2:07:18 PM (No. 297297)
A young nephew had a very serious concussion playing sports in HS. I tutored him as he recovered, we had a lot of discussions about what he was going through.
For the first couple of days it was just headaches, nobody thought anything serious had happened. But in a couple of days, they visited a doc, realized it was a serious concussion, and it got worse for a couple of weeks, then leveled off.
I don't think anyone did anything nefarious here in calling them headaches at first. The good news is that only 9 need hospital stays.
My nephew was out of school, an he was not a malingerer, he wanted to be in HS, it was the last few months of Sr year and he needed to graduate. But he had to take six weeks off of school, most of that spent in a dark room with no noise, sleeping as his brain healed itself. We spent longer than that catching him up so he could pass his final tests in math and physics and graduate about a week late.
Best wishes to the young men who were injured, my bet is that they will be OK after a while. My nephew is now in the Marines, and is absolutely fine.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/24/2020 2:08:25 PM (No. 297301)
“Traumatic brain damage” is inaccurate. These are TBIs. TBIs can be very mild or very severe traumatic brain injury. Other articles have clarified.
The Independent is a liberal rag.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/24/2020 2:15:07 PM (No. 297310)
Here is a longer more accurate article regarding the nature of their “injuries". The number has apparently changed since this report, although the number includes those who had mental health issues, not TBIs…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/01/17/americans-injured-iran-missile-attack/
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Jerico 1/24/2020 2:18:32 PM (No. 297313)
According to the Mayo Clinic headache is possibly the only symptom you might have. I would bet that most people have suffered a TBI before they pass away. The most common cause seems to be a fall. Everyone falls at some point. TBI can also take weeks to manifest itself.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 1/24/2020 2:18:51 PM (No. 297314)
At the time all he knew is that there were no fatal casualties or blood and guts injuries. TBI’s are diagnosed days later.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DARling 1/24/2020 2:21:02 PM (No. 297317)
Right after a missile attack you are talking about no loss of life and all body parts intact. Concussions can be a big deal but as sometimes it takes time to assess everyone and determine the seriousness of their condition.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
wilemon 1/24/2020 2:28:00 PM (No. 297321)
Can also be some Purple Heart hunting in there. Not unknown when I served in Vietnam.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MissMann 1/24/2020 3:07:30 PM (No. 297332)
What is the point of these breathless reports of "casualties"? Do they want the president to retaliate? If I recall correctly, the last time he did they collectively lost their minds. So, what are they playing at?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Right Time 1/24/2020 3:09:16 PM (No. 297334)
#10....Ask John Kerry
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
happywarrior 1/24/2020 3:13:52 PM (No. 297335)
The evil liberal media was hoping our US Servicemembers would get hurt or killed. They are disgusting.
Good points #1 and #2. The Military deep state at work. That's where losers like Vindman work.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/24/2020 3:14:37 PM (No. 297337)
Eight service members who were removed from Iraq for additional treatment at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany have returned to the United States for more medical care, while nine other service members remain in Germany, Hoffman said. The remaining 17 who were diagnosed with concussions, a mild form of TBI, have been returned to duty, he said.
All of those still receiving care are doing so with outpatient status, Hoffman said. Some of those receiving treatment in the United States will get care at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center outside Washington, while others will return to their home bases.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/01/24/pentagon-says-34-us-troops-were-diagnosed-with-brain-injuries-after-iranian-missile-attack/
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 1/24/2020 3:15:41 PM (No. 297338)
The biased, hateful media does not speak about the fact that the injured soldiers did not necessarily feel or report their injuries on an immediate basis; in fact, it was a few days later,
for most. Our President speaks to the public when all the information is known.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 1/24/2020 3:20:40 PM (No. 297339)
Clark Mindock?
Independent UK?
You trust THIS source?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
ZeldaFitzg 1/24/2020 3:58:10 PM (No. 297350)
You all know that I am a dedicated Trump supporter overall, and I am skeptical about the media, including in this instance. Perhaps the President was set up. Nevertheless, and speaking respectfully, I'd like to see him come out with a statement updating their condition (whether it be serious or not). I thought at the time that the President was a bit flippant in his comments about the injuries (or lack thereof). I'd like to see our President be a bit slower to speak sometimes. I love what he is doing for our country, but I don't always love what he says or tweets.
Just my opinion. YMMV, as always.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bighambone 1/24/2020 4:38:15 PM (No. 297367)
This report is from a U.K. tabloid newspaper that depends upon the creation of controversy to sell their newspapers to survive. Here they are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill as far as President Trump’s comments are concerned.
That Iranian attack targeted an airbase in Iraq. President Trump was in the USA at the time. President Trump depends upon military after action reports to get his information right after the attack. Brain injuries of the type some soldiers now appear to have sustained are not readily identifiable like a gunshot or shrapnel wound would be. So it appears that the initial after action report from the Pentagon to the White House informed the President that there were no Americans killed (KIA’s) or wounded (WIA’s) as a result of the attack and that was the report upon which Trump drew his comments from. Since that time solders have been examined by medics in the field and in military hospitals and it has been determined that they sustained varying degrees of concussion type head injuries.
Right after the attack some in the US media, upon hearing that there were no American KIA’s or WIA’s immediately started cutting the Iranians a lot of slack, commenting that the Iranians really did not really want to kill Americans and fired their ballistic and cruise missiles at US positions in Iraq just so they could say that they retaliated. But that was not true, as the Iranians fired ballistic missiles with about 500 lb warheads into an American base where there were a lot of American soldiers. When those warheads exploded they would randomly kill or wound anyone within a pretty good radius including soldiers taking cover in reinforced bunkers, including causing internal blast injuries such as those American soldiers sustained. There is no doubt that in carrying out such an attack the Iranians were attempting to kill and wound as many American civilians and soldiers as possible, just as they have been doing for the last forty years.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
judy 1/24/2020 5:17:59 PM (No. 297386)
Stop blaming Trump, blame Iran!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Namma 1/24/2020 5:23:15 PM (No. 297390)
Oh dang. Now PRESIDENT Trump has to be a doctor. Another reason to impeach. Someone better call Schiff for brains
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/24/2020 5:25:13 PM (No. 297392)
Concussions can be mitigated as poster above notes. This journo/wannabe Clark Mindock has a brain disease from which there is no known cure, i.e, TDS. Condolences to his family. Maybe Mindock is just a pseudonym.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
panther361 1/24/2020 5:38:57 PM (No. 297403)
I think it's time the UK mind it's own damn business.
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