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Congress, White House Reach Tentative Deal
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Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk, 12/7/2019 10:55:00 AM

Washington - Congress struck a tentative bipartisan agreement that would authorize 12 weeks of paid parental leave for all federal workers, in a potentially historic deal negotiated with the White House. Draft language for a must-pass annual defense policy bill includes a provision that would allow 2.1 million civilians who work for the U.S. government across the country to take paid leave to care for a new baby after birth, adoption or the initiation of foster care, (Snip) Eric Ueland, White House legislative affairs director, said Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior adviser, played a key role in negotiating the tentative deal “and lobbied extensively for the provision.”


Now the facts for this deal with the Devil (Congress). This is part of their typical sticking pork inside the annual "must pass" defense budget. It is mentioned that the bill also would establish the Space Force with the USAF. This is what President Trump wanted, and we need, not the exorbitant government paid parental leave. Sponsors of this bill, including Ivanka Trump want this to bleed into industry (private sector). Question, if one can leave their job for such lengths of time, how is it filled? Temps cost money, as well.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Avikingman 12/7/2019 11:09:29 AM (No. 255565)
What OP said. This really pis**s me off. I will let my congressweasel know, not that it will do any good.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: TXknitter 12/7/2019 11:13:21 AM (No. 255570)
Now we see. Trump had to sign off on this pork to get the Space program. Ivanka, shame on you!! Federal workers (parents) get far and away more time off - paid and unpaid - than private sector workers.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: beancounter 12/7/2019 11:18:02 AM (No. 255582)
“Supporters contend the program would save money on recruiting and retention.” Doesn’t every job opening already have hundreds of qualified applicants? I had an economics professor try to use a similar argument for why CA prison guards get paid so much. I told him he should flunk any of his students who tries that argument.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 12/7/2019 11:19:35 AM (No. 255586)
Mixed feelings. This will waste a lot of money, but PERHAPS might result in better child care and fewer insane criminals on the street in the long run. Not much of a fan of Ivanka.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: jacksin5 12/7/2019 11:20:41 AM (No. 255588)
Government workers are the only ones who receive the benefits of these French-style Socialist programs, paid for by the taxpayers who of course, are exempt from such largesse.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: PChristopher 12/7/2019 11:21:00 AM (No. 255590)
Where I work, when someone takes parental leave, the rest of us have to fill in as required and look as happy as we can. I never hear anyone talking about that end of it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rumblehog 12/7/2019 11:25:09 AM (No. 255599)
We need a Federal "Balanced Budget Amendment" like we have in some States (Texas for one). This is the only way to reign in out of control spending. They keep spending money the next generation doesn't have.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: farmwife 12/7/2019 11:27:43 AM (No. 255605)
Now cut the federal work force by half to pay for it.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/7/2019 11:37:20 AM (No. 255621)
Just put it on the credit card, like everything else. I'm so glad "conservatives" are in charge. I know they won't waste my money on social programs.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: cor-vet 12/7/2019 11:37:34 AM (No. 255622)
Adding to what Poster #8 said, there are a few million more private sector jobs out here than there seem to be workers to fill them. Let the layoffs begin!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney 12/7/2019 11:38:28 AM (No. 255625)
Glad they have had time for meetings to pay themselves more money, and settled among themselves that yes indeed they are worth more money. No time for the people though, nothing there. Actually, the people find themselves more bereft, poorer, shorn.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bad-hair 12/7/2019 11:39:12 AM (No. 255626)
Give them their Cadillac parental leave and relocate their office jobs to Nebraska, Alabama, Texarkana, Alaska, Whoaskedya, Canada, anywhere but DC.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: JediJerry 12/7/2019 11:45:16 AM (No. 255635)
Another massive entitlement program for government workers followed by an even more massive entitlement program for civilians. Just added this on top of the trillion dollar per year deficit and before you know it we will be bankrupt faster than a speeding appropriations bill and debt limit increase.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Grounded 12/7/2019 11:48:12 AM (No. 255638)
During severe weather events, gov't shutdowns and the like, "non-essential workers" are told to stay home. Seems if Uncle Sam can afford to PAY somebody for damn near three months not to work, that person must not be very essential either. And if so, why not send them all packing on unpaid permanent leave? That's how private businesses have to operate: "Sorry, Mr. Smith, but your position has been eliminated and we're going to have to let you go. Here's a box to put your personal stuff in." And usually somebody from security is tasked with keeping an eye on you as you clean out your desk or work space and head out the door.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Yuban 12/7/2019 11:50:23 AM (No. 255641)
It is easy to pay someone for not working when the money being paid is not yours to begin with. America is already a Socialist country for millions of citizens, government workers. This is why we are a Country divided and why our Government wants to end that division by making all of us Socialists.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Robert Jones 12/7/2019 11:50:23 AM (No. 255642)
Great! So screw us small business owners that have to compete with the government for emplyees.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Safari Man 12/7/2019 12:01:11 PM (No. 255654)
Part of the deal should be to cut the federal work force by 80% and cap it at that level for 100 years. If that was part of the plan, I would be for it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 12/7/2019 12:12:17 PM (No. 255672)
@#7 - What makes you think DC would obey a Balanced Budget Amendment? They don't follow the one's we have now.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: USAdroit Editor 12/7/2019 12:23:19 PM (No. 255685)
I hate to see Trump fall for this sort of 'largesse.' Can he not say ‘No’ to Ivanka, even as taxpayers (including this provision’s supposed beneficiaries) are smothered under a $20 Trillion national debt?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: cyberspace cadet 12/7/2019 12:31:45 PM (No. 255691)
Rush is right again. When family leave was approved, Rush said it will be no time at all until it's paid family leave. We need a Convention of the States to stop this Federal Government from spending us into slavery.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Miceal 12/7/2019 12:32:22 PM (No. 255692)
This is BeeEss! Public Sector Unions, at all levels, need to OUTLAWED...!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bogeegolf 12/7/2019 12:43:54 PM (No. 255697)
Aren’t they special. I will have to let Trump know I disapprove. They always have time to feather their own nest.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: bad-hair 12/7/2019 12:51:53 PM (No. 255702)
BANG 16. Fifteen bucks an hour whether you like it or not.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: MainelySane 12/7/2019 1:00:29 PM (No. 255707)
As a small business owner, this really ticks me off. Government employees get stuff like this all the time. When they get bonuses for doing their jobs ... that's even worse. Private employers give bonuses with end of the year profits. .. if they make anything.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Lawsy0 12/7/2019 1:19:50 PM (No. 255715)
Why the hell do you hire out if you don't plan to work?!? Lots of parents take the standard and usual maternity leave allotted for REAL jobs and do not raise criminals. What crap. That is like pouring more money on education to improve it. Gimme a break!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: TJ54 12/7/2019 1:46:46 PM (No. 255737)
More goodies for the pigs at the trough: solution, fire virtually all federal employees because most are worthless
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Reply 27 - Posted by: MeiDei 12/7/2019 1:46:56 PM (No. 255738)
Private employers with big profits offer paid leave as an enticement to keep valued, productive employees. If the government is operating at a profit, which ours is not, then sure - compete from a portion of the profits - until then forget it. We, taxpayers, have to unite about this. The national debt is way too high.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: AlpineLace 12/7/2019 4:12:37 PM (No. 255801)
Texas may have it by Constitution, but have not fear our politicians have found ways around it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: cor-vet 12/7/2019 5:37:50 PM (No. 255851)
No fedral employee should receive a benefit that's not avalible to the private sector, who are paying for everything.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: athina 12/7/2019 6:20:27 PM (No. 255884)
I have the same general opinion as #29. This is a result of the fact that the government employs waaay too many people and they make more $ on average than the private sector that pays them. This is not right. This is not something that should trickle down into the private sector - it should be the other way around, if it should be at all.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: lakerman1 12/7/2019 6:21:16 PM (No. 255886)
As an adoptive parent, I am OK with paid parental leave, but it puzzled about the 'preparation for foster care.' I know people who have been foster parents - God bless them - and they do it again and again. Does paid leave for those foster parents kick in for each child they take in? They could work that system over pretty well, avoiding work for most of the year. And some of the foster parents are the real grandparents, so they are paid by the government, tax free. Talking double dipping here I hate to be cynical, but...
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Peeps 12/7/2019 7:40:56 PM (No. 255930)
What #8, #10, #21, #17 said. #21 is right, public sector unions need to be outlawed. #29, BINGO. ANY new benefit or pay raise for public sector workers should be approved by voters, no exceptions! WE pay THEM, and WE should not be allowing them to live high off the hog when we must live in a private sector, realistic, environment.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 12/8/2019 12:05:12 AM (No. 256045)
The "federal government" is taxpayers. Why weren't We consulted ? Why doesn't it cover everyone ? Remember that posh daycare they gave themselves ? Amazing how many years they can argue over a minimum wage increase and give those on SS crumbs, but pass a raise for themselves in days. Washington was never meant to be a permanent address for any elected person. Send them home.
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