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The “witness intimidation” farce

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 11/16/2019 4:57:04 AM

Unlike John, I don’t consider the impeachment proceedings against President Trump a farce. However, aspects of the proceedings are farcical. Today, while Marie Yovanovitch, ambassador to Ukraine until Trump sacked her, was testifying before Adam Schiff’s committee, the president tweeted some negative things about her. He wrote: Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors. This is mild stuff by Trumpian standards. However, Democrats promptly,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 11/16/2019 6:23:02 AM (No. 236453)
Nice to see that Paul hasn't completely lost his reasoning ability. This is a "show trial" and Schiffty interjecting Trump's tweet was a part of the show. Yovanovitch's feeling "threatened" was another part. You're playing in the major leagues Marie. If you can't handle criticism and being fired, you don't measure up to play here. Whining about it in public makes it clear that Trump made the right choice to get rid of her. Paul says she was "pathetic". I agree and would apply it to all the witnesses to date and the whole hearing process as well.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 11/16/2019 6:35:54 AM (No. 236460)
Well, at least Yovanobitch didn't use Blasey-Ford's 'little girl voice' while she was testifying to her snowflakey fantasy stories, so that's a bit of a step up from the Kavenaugh hearings.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: RTC60 11/16/2019 8:13:21 AM (No. 236500)
This woman is an embarrassment to every woman who has ever succeeded in the workplace, with her poor sad face, and her wispy little girl voice answering "No. No. No" to those rude male questions, and her hurt feelings, and her inflated sense of self-importance (which pairs oddly with no actual information.) If you wanted to present a case against women in positions of power, she could be Argument #1.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Chuzzles 11/16/2019 8:33:01 AM (No. 236521)
Remember when the democrats wanted Trump to testify for Mueller's circus? Well, maybe they should consider the live tweeting yesterday the closest they will ever get to the president testifying. That tweeting he did made me laugh all day. He has a wicked sense of humor, and knows just how to suck the oxygen from any room, and make democrats look stupid while he is doing it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: edgar 11/16/2019 8:36:26 AM (No. 236525)
Of course, Schiff only read part of the statement, not the whole thing. So, is it Schiff who is attempting to intimidate the witness by only reading part of the statement?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Laotzu 11/16/2019 8:38:28 AM (No. 236529)
Such a short jump from high school prom committee to US Congress.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: mobyclik 11/16/2019 8:39:00 AM (No. 236530)
Well #4, ''...make[ing] democrats look stupid...'' is one of lifes easiest accomplishments. They're born that way and love to prove it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney 11/16/2019 9:17:48 AM (No. 236567)
I cannot get beyond the first sentence. If the author is so intellectually and ethically challenged that he cannot see that this impeachment is a farce, an injustice, illegal, all lies and false witness, then we just aren't going to be having any conversations.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: HotRod 11/16/2019 9:33:59 AM (No. 236584)
Yovanovitch came across as evasive, vague and reluctant to admit to known facts. That is, when the questions came from Republicans. She was able to answer democrat's questions easily, and agree with all the words put into her mouth by the fawning democrats- including their council.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: justavoter 11/16/2019 10:00:03 AM (No. 236608)
If this is witness intimidation, then Adam Schiff is a co-conspirator, because the witness would never have known about the alleged witness intimidation were it not for him reading a selective part of the tweet during the hearing. Since there is no need for the witness to return for further testimony, then not hearing about the tweet until after the hearing is over would have no effect on the testimony of the witness. As co-conspirator, Adam Schiff did more damage by not reading the important part about the displeasure of the Ukrainian President with the witnesses service.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: unionriverman2316 11/16/2019 10:06:45 AM (No. 236613)
......"Unlike John, I don’t consider the impeachment proceedings against President Trump a farce"...... That fact that this "impeachment inquiry" is totally partisan, without the support of ANY Republicans....tempts one to call it a farce. Now that the latest charge appears to be "intimidating a witness" (with a tweet??) the farce grows larger. PM is a citizen of the DC swamp himself, where the "mind poison" is extremely contagious. Like all the exceptional citizens of the national swamp, he wants to remain in good standing with those like George Will, Billy Kristol and others of similar ilk, making sure he gets invited to all the "right" cocktail parties in town, so he, like the rest of that crowd, see all this "silliness" as nothing less than "world threatening". Yesterday there were those advocating for removing him from the "conservative blog" that is Powerline, as he shares little with the other three fine writers.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 11/16/2019 10:23:18 AM (No. 236630)
The "proceedings" ARE a farce. That Mirengoff can't see that is a really damning statement about his TDS state. He CAN see that Schiff's latest claim is a farce. Too bad he can't see that the whole thing is the same.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: EQKimball 11/16/2019 11:06:30 AM (No. 236670)
Thank God Trump did not offer real-time commentary during the Kavanaugh hearing. The merits of what he tweets about a witness’s testimony are overwhelmed by his demonstrative absence self-discipline and allow the Dems the opportunity to contrive another argument against him. This is not about high crimes and misdemeanors, because there are none. This is about next year’s topic of his fitness for office. The ramifications of his erratic and intemperate behavior will decide the election.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 11/16/2019 11:54:56 AM (No. 236711)
Hogwash, #13.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Strike3 11/16/2019 12:48:41 PM (No. 236754)
Democrats must have the time to sit on a live feed of Donald Trump's Twitter all day long. Schiff jumped on the chance to try to make the president look bad but that backfired along with everything else. I hope the pencil-necked clown pays a big price for his despicable behavior.
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