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The ‘It Takes A Trump To Change Washington’
Defense Of The President

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Posted By: unionriverman2316, 11/3/2019 9:09:53 AM

Some supporters of President Trump have adopted the following defense of the (at times) nasty, over-the-top rhetoric Trump uses against his adversaries: Trump is “no Mr. Nice Guy,” but “sometimes it takes a Donald Trump to change Washington.” In fact, Trump’s recently released campaign ad makes this pitch in just that language. As a means of making ethical Trump supporters feel better about backing the president, this defense has appeal. But is there anything to it? Not much. Ronald Reagan changed Washington without being Trump-like. Headline corrected*

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Well known member of the DC elite....and well known "never-Trumper" Mirengoff is at it again. Forget about Trumps accomplishments....the man is just is NOT "presidential" enough! PM's writings belong in the WaPoop.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin 11/3/2019 9:15:22 AM (No. 225932)
Whatever...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: msts 11/3/2019 9:17:13 AM (No. 225935)
You would think that, given the Presidents approval rating, his standing in both the black and hispanic (legal) community and specifically the states that had been forgotten, the era of "If we play nice, the dems will too" would be over. A guy once told me that the reason people are nice to each other in DC is to make sure they are invited to all the parties. Hell of a reason to betray your constituents
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Reply 3 - Posted by: zuker5 11/3/2019 9:27:24 AM (No. 225942)
Regarding Kavanaugh, no other Republican would have stuck with him during that coordinated smear. They would have folded, and given the Democrats his scalp. Ignoring that simple truth, is ignoring reality.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: chance_232 11/3/2019 9:36:01 AM (No. 225956)
Reagan didn't change Washington. And this missive ignores the fact that the Democrat party of the 1980's is not the same party 40 years later. Yes, the democrats were nasty towards Reagan, but nothing like today. And the press.....at least they attempted to be fair and kept their bias under some control.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: John C 11/3/2019 9:41:27 AM (No. 225963)
He is fighting back at the swamp and I don't envy his job. Media continues to insult his wife and kids. Democrats show no respect. He doesn't smoke or drink, he protects life. Paul, take a breath. FTA: "But excessive rhetoric on these fronts can be counterproductive". I love our President!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Saryden 11/3/2019 9:44:25 AM (No. 225966)
From an octogenarian, former public school teacher, mother, grandmother, wife and homemaker: President Donald J. Trump is the ONLY one who has stepped up with his life, fortune, patriotism, and hard work to save the USA from Socio-Communism, Islamic Terrorism, and the Swamp. He can say and do whatever he wants and I say Yea -- Bless him!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 11/3/2019 9:48:24 AM (No. 225968)
I would argue that, as good and conservative and principled as Ronald Reagan was, HE CHANGED NOTHING. His VP was a Deep Stater, and pretty much erased half of Reagan's changes AS A REPUBLICAN, and the next Dem continued the "march through the institutions" to destroy this country. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 11/3/2019 9:53:43 AM (No. 225976)
Paul... You're part of the problem. Now get to your fainting couch... This is no longer 1890.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 11/3/2019 10:15:26 AM (No. 225995)
Given the bug-eyed screaming, biting, clawing and crying going on in Washington right now to prevent Trump from succeeding, it may take even more than a Trump to actually "change Washington." My fear is that when Trump is gone the mud will ooze back in place to fill his tracks.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: The Remnants 11/3/2019 10:24:57 AM (No. 226002)
Oh, spare me, Mr. Mirengoff. Be in his shoes for the last almost three years; accomplish all that he has, while simultaneously wondering who is truly friend or foe; cope with all the nastiness he has put up with on a daily basis, oftentimes against members of his own family; admit he has more trustworthy allies in foreign countries than in his own; put up 24/7 with the insufferable mainstream media who wouldn't know objective truth if they tripped over it. Be in his shoes for a day or two. Bet you would be tempted to scream "enough". You might even use a cuss word or two. Truth be told, I think a lot of Trump's haters are jealous of him - for different reasons.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: pros7767 11/3/2019 10:27:07 AM (No. 226004)
Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton would have folded like a cheap suit as soon as the Dems started their nasty nonsense. (No disrespect intended to either.) -The economy is thriving because of Trump. Therefore, jobs are being created. -ISIS is destroyed because Trump allowed the military to do what it does best. Fight! -Illegal entry is being reduced because Trump took a tough stand with Mexico. No one else would have. -The Russian hoax would have been used against Cruz or Cotton or whoever was elected except Hillary. They would have resigned. Shut up Paul! And I couldn't agree more with #6!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Laotzu 11/3/2019 10:31:47 AM (No. 226009)
The Regan Era? You mean back when there were Pro-Life Democrats who had served in WWII? Right before Clinton took over and gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Senator Fullbright -- the leader of the opposition to the '64 Civil Rights Act? Is dope now legal in the Beltway?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Skeptical1 11/3/2019 10:50:24 AM (No. 226026)
Amazing what people can be blind to. Trump uses "intemperate and uncivil rhetoric "? Compared to what? Look how the Left treats nice, polite, and very well-spoken and inoffensive people like Brett Kavanaugh or Jordan Peterson. For that matter, try disagreeing with a liberal at a dinner party. You'll be told that you're a racist homophobic fascist. So who's "intemperate and uncivil"? Trump is special, Mirengoff has that right. He is a curious blend of greatness and, shall we say, eccentricity. But not mean spirited and intolerant, like most of the Left. Sometimes a little unpolished, bumptious, vain, or repetitious. These things may be flaws, but they may also be part of his armor, allowing him to endure far more abuse than most men could ever handle. The Trump phenomenon is truly fascinating as a study in character and sociology, and Mirengoff might write something more interesting if he would look at it with an open and inquiring mind.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: ROLFNader 11/3/2019 11:01:34 AM (No. 226038)
Agree with #9- It might take pitchforks and torches.... a LOT of them.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: 49 Ford 11/3/2019 11:10:01 AM (No. 226043)
I no longer have any patience with these prissy, "Oh, look how thoughtful and judicious I am!" sorts of commentary. All the earlier posters make the relevant points. Mirengoff and those who thinks as he does really do need to stop falling back on Reagan as a one-size-fits-all template. RR was a different man working in a different era, and you cannot separate a man's style and approach from who he is. That's just human nature, Mr. M, and all the pearl clutching and furrow-browed consternation in the world will never change that.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 11/3/2019 11:17:42 AM (No. 226046)
#14, Pitchforks and torches? Not going to work. AR-15s and Colt 1911s, maybe.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Wendybird 11/3/2019 11:18:17 AM (No. 226048)
Agree with Skeptical. For the most part, PDTrump fights back and corrects his critics. Usually in a precise, humorous way, as appreciated by people blessed with a sense of humor. This excludes most democrat-socialist-liberals, whichever they call themselves. He is one of a kind, indefatigable it seems, and fortunately on the right side. We would surely be in deep doo doo, doomed, if he were on the other.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: earlybird 11/3/2019 11:26:18 AM (No. 226051)
Now I know why I skip Mirengoff. A hardcore #NeverTrumper, he always comes up with a piece of rubbish like this one. John Hinderaker is the only one worth reading at PowerLine. And sometimes Scott Johnson.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 11/3/2019 11:42:44 AM (No. 226063)
Results are what count. The path taken to get there is meaningless as long as it's legal, ethical and nobody dies.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/3/2019 12:10:39 PM (No. 226083)
What people are beginning to realize, Mr. Mirengoff, is that Trump is US - us as in, 'We the People'. Elites who want his head would treat any of us with the same contempt and hatefulness if we stumbled into their path. To them, we are not worth acknowledging as human. We're only useful if we continue to grease their desire for power. If we get in the way, we're barely worth the effort to crush us. But Trump is different. He has them baffled. That seat at him, but he buzzes back agressively. America was founded to restrict and diminish the power of government for the benefit of its citizens. It was founded so that no matter what you are, beggar or industrialist, politician or priest, police, military or everyman, we could expect equal justice and protections under rules we approved of through our elected officials - our so-called public servants. But what do we have today? Graft corruption, immorality, and either indifference, or the wielding of crushing power whenever we point out what is supposed to happen, by the same people who object to Trump. Perhaps Obama was correct in one aspect of his declaration that our evil has been part of America since its founding. After all, he embraced that evil. And meanwhile, every promise Trump has made and attempted to implement has been slowed and challenged by these people. The Democrats and the Deep State they helped to create must be utterly destroyed. Otherwise, we will never see the Liberty and Justice for all, enshrined in our pledge of alligience. Let's win this fight.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 11/3/2019 12:41:17 PM (No. 226104)
What a maroon Paul is. "Ronald Reagan changed Washington without being Trump-like." Reagan never faced a conspiracy within the government to delegitimize his election. He never faced Carter's FBI and CIA conspiring against him. He never faced a Left willing to do and say anything to win. Reagan never dared some of the big changes that Trump has because he KNEW there would be blowback. Instead, he chose to leave those things alone as to not stir things up. As to not creating jobs, please, from the MOMENT of Trump's election the economy started to improve. Trump's cutting of regulations unleashed business to grow and profit. Trump's tax cuts freed up capital and allowed capital held overseas to be recaptured. That turbo charged growth. NO president directly creates jobs. He gets government OUT OF THE WAY and creates conditions for business to flourish. Then business creates jobs. That is THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. If Trump had to kick some shins to make that happen, so what? "Nor has Trump’s rhetoric stopped a single illegal immigrant from entering the U.S." Yet, such rhetoric and the threat of some economic sanctions cause Mexico to wake up and push back on those invading us through their country. "the nomination and confirmation of good judges and Justices" If you pay attention, once he nominates good people, Trump hasn't usually said much except when the process gets gummed up. Often we just hands it to McConnell and that is it. As for "cutting back of excessive government regulations", Trump just said the government is over regulated and told people to cut to to introduce 1 new one. There wasn't a lot of fuss about it. The agencies over greatly over delivered. Paul claims a Cruz or Cotton would have delivered such changes. Maybe, but there is no proof of that and no evidence they could have had that impact on Washington. In fact, it is doubtful they could have driven the election to win the Senate and the House at the same time. Then "President Cruz" would have accomplished very little. Sure, sometimes President Trump has pushed the boundaries a bit. But people who aren't willing to do that won't have the accomplishments either. Paul seems to think the two things are independent but they are part of a package. Boldness invites additional risk and the possibility of mistakes. However, I give Trump the credit of striking an excellent balance. He has accomplished an enormous amount of great stuff and the few things that I can niggle about, frankly, are not worth the point. Media and pundits want to box presidents in by defining boundaries of behavior, i.e. PC. However, we didn't vote for these pundits. They didn't go through a grueling campaign. They don't face 90+% of negative stories and outright false attacks and an bureaucratic conspiracy that still continues. Most of these pundits would be squashed like bugs in the face of this. Paul, you aren't the arbiter of what it takes to win and who should get the credit.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: edgar 11/3/2019 1:03:03 PM (No. 226115)
I happen to believe that Washington has been broken for a long time. That is why Trump has been successful. He has to fight everyday to push back the entrenched Deep State, but he with no support from Congress, he has pushed the US economy to places it has never been, in a positive way, he is working to close our Southern border and is trying to reverse the misfortune brought to us by NAFTA. As Ross Perot said, "Do you hear that sucking sound? That is the sound of US jobs going to Mexico." As Nancy Pelosi said, "Embrace the suck!" NAFTA Nancy needs to be pushed out of way, not Donald Trump.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: JackBurton 11/3/2019 2:37:51 PM (No. 226158)
Did Reagan have to confront Antifa? Did his supporters get shadowbanned or hit with eggs.... or just hit? This has been building since the early 90s and we've played by 80s rules. Time it changed.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: cThree 11/3/2019 3:11:40 PM (No. 226177)
and what will it take to change Paul Mirengoff ?
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