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The Bell Is About to Toll

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 10/30/2019 4:54:31 AM

Washington It has taken a long time, but finally the Justice Department is training its guns on what heretofore was unthinkable, unless you are a career civil libertarian. For years the civil libertarians have been warning us that the intelligence community posed a threat to democracy, as we know it in these United States. Every so often they would point to some excess of the FBI or the CIA and tell us that the lights were going out in democratic America. Does not the Washington Post run atop its front page the maudlin line, “Democracy Dies in Darkness”? Well, the darkness descended upon Donald Trump the moment

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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2 10/30/2019 6:43:15 AM (No. 221626)
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Red Jeep 10/30/2019 6:53:52 AM (No. 221633)
Ditto Reply 1.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: George R. 10/30/2019 7:18:44 AM (No. 221649)
Don't hold your breath for anything from Horowitz. Any competent person in his position would have released his report Year(s) ago! Horowitz is nothing more than lipstick on a pig!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: mizzmac 10/30/2019 7:22:54 AM (No. 221651)
Me too, #1.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: vrb8m 10/30/2019 7:59:03 AM (No. 221704)
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Reply 6 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 10/30/2019 8:00:43 AM (No. 221706)
IF this was fully followed through as it should be, it would be devastating to the dems/Left/media. They would be exposed as carrying out all the conspiratorial plotting and deeds that they have accused others of doing. They themselves have declared that someone carrying out such actions does NOT deserve to act in leadership of this Country. That includes the propaganda media that pushed their agenda. This should be an effective decapitation of the dems and media. They are criminals and should not be involved or influential with politics. I would be astonished if this happens. Time will tell how much karma is served on the dems/Left/media.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: FunOne 10/30/2019 8:14:05 AM (No. 221717)
I am 74 years old. Will I live to hear this bell? If so, will it toll for enriching our republic, or will it ring hollow?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rinktum 10/30/2019 8:26:22 AM (No. 221737)
Well, it appears many of us are in agreement that this Report by IG Horowitz will be a disappointment at best. The entrenched corruption in Washington DC does not give us hope. Everyone is connected and they all know each other. When push comes to shove, it’s all about saving the bureaucracy which is where the real power in Washington is. They move the cogs and wheels that benefit them, their friends, their agenda and they don’t give a flying fig what the American voter wants. Politicians come and go but the Deep State is forever or so they think. The question that will define the fate of our Republic is, do they have the integrity and moral courage to police themselves? Right now, most of us are skeptical. Truth be told, they would much rather Trump be impeached and they would be left alone to do whatever it is they do, but never forget, it’s all about them. The country and its people are immaterial to their ego-centric arrogance. They are the rulers and we peons out here in flyover country need to sit down and shut up. The elites have it covered. I have never wanted to be wrong about something in my entire life, but with everything that has been revealed, I just can’t make myself believe there are enough good guys left to right this horrific wrong. So many delays and so much legal wrangling has left me skeptical. I apologize for the negativity, but after three years of watching one man fight these monsters with very little support from his party, it does not bode well for we the people. The choice could not be clearer, continue with the corruption or clean it out once and for all.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: JackBurton 10/30/2019 8:37:04 AM (No. 221744)
Trump has delivered on a great many things. Kudos. Like that. But the rule of law is a biggie. He's fighting a deep state that wants to protect its own while suppressing the people who aren't in their club. If he can get the law to work, the law will begin to take over. As it should. Basically, Lock her up. And all her little friends.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: OBX Pete 10/30/2019 8:47:05 AM (No. 221750)
The important thing here is NOT whether Durham has convened a Grand Jury or not, If he has got a Grand Jury it matters where the Jury is. If it has been convened in the DC area we can just figure out what the outcome of that will be. Any legal action that may be taken in these cases should be taken as far away from DC as possible with a judge and jury that are not in the hip pocket of the felons.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LadyVet 10/30/2019 8:55:48 AM (No. 221761)
#9, I can share your negative outlook when I look at who is NOT coming to the defense of our duly elected president. That would include the last living Republican former president and the last Republican who lost a presidential election. And another Republican presidential candidate was a useful tool in disseminating the false evidence used in this attempted coup d'etat. The discernment and judgment of the people seeking our highest office is sadly lacking.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: LesUNo 10/30/2019 9:01:24 AM (No. 221770)
It is understandable to be discouraged. It has been a very long time with seemingly little progress, Where is the rule of law? Where is justice? I have to believe they both remain in existence. The reverse is unthinkable. That is why we voted for Donald Trump. He promised to drain the swamp and he keeps his promises.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/30/2019 9:12:20 AM (No. 221781)
FTA - "In the coming days, we will learn much more about this audacious mischief, first through the report of Inspector General Michael Horowitz detailing FISA abuses, then through Durham’s findings, which could result in a raft of indictments. Brace for impact, lefties. It is going to be a bumpy year ahead." This obviously explains why the dims, deep state, and the msm are keeping the impeachment narrative in front of us as an attempt to drown out AG Barr's investigation and discredit the upcoming indictments and prosecutions. Notice how quiet Obie, Billary, Brennan, Clapper, and Comey have become since AG Barr said his investigation now involves a criminal investigation. Tyrrell notes that a grand jury may have already seen seated to considered the evidence ahead of indictments. When AG Barr blows the lid off this beginning with the IG report, it will become the largest and most significant prosecution of government officials in the nations history. While the dims will take a really big hit and significant damage to the dim party will result, I also suspect a pubbie or two may be implicated. The late McCain, for example. Jebbie Bush as another example. And Pierre Delecto? If Billary is implicated and/or indicted, she will make sure as many people as possible go down with her.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/30/2019 9:59:27 AM (No. 221835)
I love Emmett Tyrrell - - and I was with him until I read this - - "the three stooges — Brennan, Clapper, and Comey — had convinced themselves that Trump ... was a plant for the Russians." Nonsense! The stooges never at any time believed that Trump was a tool of the Russians. They CREATED the notion that he was - - and they used their own fiction as a lever to spy on - - and destroy - - Trump and his campaign on behalf of Little 0bie and The Beast. How can a brilliant and savvy man like Tyrrell believe that these evil traitors were sincere in any way?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: HotRod 10/30/2019 12:06:50 PM (No. 221972)
I, too, suspect that Durham has already empaneled a Grand Jury. Hopefully, more than one since there are so many criminals to process. I see that many people have already given up. Caved. Thrown in the towel. Patience is a hard thing to master. We want them all hanged yesterday. Me too. President Trump, Barr, and Durham are playing the long game here. A short game won't work, for the very reasons we attribute to the deep state, crooked politicians, etc. If you have faith in President Trump, be patient. If you think he can't overcome the criminals, you might as well vote for the democrats because we won't get another fighter like President Trump in our lifetimes. Wash and dry your crying towels, and put them on the shelf. There will be plenty of time for them if we lose.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Mulhaven 10/30/2019 12:51:04 PM (No. 222027)
There is almost certainly going to be indictments. Those in charge of identifying all the criminality have a very complex job on their hands. New evidence has been exposed as early as today. It is not the job of the prosecutors to ease public anxiety. They keep their work secret and when everything is in place the fireworks begin. The biggest issue is the form of the trials. A trial with a jury of peers is a bad choice because these will be political trials, i.e. a conspiracy to overthrow the Trump administration. A trial with a jury of peers cannot succeed because Democrats are in all likelihood pleased with the conspiracy and would vote "innocent". A military trial in a non-public location is what is called for. At least military personnel are far more likely to have loyalty to the constitution and their honour would motivate them to deal with the realities and to understand the magnitude of the crime. Everyone needs to put their cynicism on hold. This event is absolutely huge. It will be resolved with innumerable factual details and not by soundbites.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 10/30/2019 1:22:36 PM (No. 222060)
Dare I say this yet again in jest? Now we got ‘em! s/
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Deety 10/30/2019 2:45:09 PM (No. 222137)
If treasonous top-tier Democrat criminal coupsters are given a Free Pass, then MAGA is over and the Trump presidency is over. Period. I can't see that happening, not given PDT's mastery of strategery.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Golden Goose 10/30/2019 3:49:51 PM (No. 222202)
Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It's pretty obvious. It's the American people ringing the customer service bell at the Department of Justice, hoping that someone will show up on the other side of the counter.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Venturer 10/30/2019 3:54:30 PM (No. 222209)
It isn't the bell that you will hear if anything is ever done to the guilty. It will be the screams coming from the Democrat side of Congress.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 10/30/2019 5:12:58 PM (No. 222293)
There are so many government abuses going on that it will take years to curb their power and a Congress that is willing to vote away some of their own power and impose term limits on themselves. Fat Chance. IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA, EPA, NEA, DEA, all enjoy what they can do to us and it will take a collective effort by every American just to gain back the ground we have lost. Add to the mix another president like Bumbling Barry, Commie Bernie or Crooked Hillary and the abuses will double overnight.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: NYbob 10/30/2019 6:38:30 PM (No. 222344)
I understand the despair. I agree with all the concerns that the Deep State will prevail in spite of the obvious criminal acts. Very easy to be a pessimist, but never forget one thing, Donald J Trump IS President and he has been very successful. It is incredible that he was elected and even more so that he has been effective despite more opposition and hate directed at him than I've ever seen in my long life. Many of us hoped he would be elected, but even his strongest supporters have to admit it was the biggest outsider long shot anyone could imagine. If that can happen and if he can prevail against bitter opposition, there is a chance the Deep State won't be as formidable as everyone thinks. One high profile push back, reveal or flip that exposes the scheme could set off an abandon ship of confessions by zealots who realize they don't want to do hard time for sleeze like the Deep State. It is a long shot, but we seem to be in very unusual times so maybe at long last someone will flip a rock in DC.
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