Grandpa, who were the
Rolling Stones, and why?
Spectator USA,
by
Luke Haines
Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect,
10/21/2019 7:11:05 AM
The Rolling Stones’ delayed tour is back on the road. Not the tour they delayed after Keith Richards fell out of a coconut tree, but the one delayed because Mick Jagger had a heart attack. If you’re a boomer of advanced years and decayed taste, all this is no doubt a big deal, your last chance to see some of the last icons of the original and brief Rock Era, before you or they kick the bucket. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest rock ’n’ roll band in the world, the Rolling Stones.
Except they aren’t the Stones. They haven’t been the Stones for years. They’re not even the Counterfeit Stones,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
mobyclik 10/21/2019 7:52:38 AM (No. 213269)
One gets the feeling that Luke doesn't like the Stones. They can do their thing until they're rolled onto stage in wheelchairs, I don't care.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
markhooton 10/21/2019 8:24:32 AM (No. 213288)
Cool stuff that I never knew. Bigger Beatles fan, but the Stones were a moving force that also changed the culture.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 10/21/2019 8:26:08 AM (No. 213289)
I know, I know ...
It's only Rock 'n Roll
But I like it!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
swarfer 10/21/2019 8:26:55 AM (No. 213291)
I lost interest in the Stones decades ago having seen them in 1973 and then again in 1983. They are spectacle, well oiled but generally monotonous. But, hey, everybody has to make a living.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 10/21/2019 8:29:02 AM (No. 213294)
This guy is an idiot who is obviously infatuated with Brian Jones.
The article was written by Ben Sixsmith, not Luke Haines.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rather Read 10/21/2019 8:32:05 AM (No. 213297)
Sour grapes much. Of course the early Stones were the best, it's that way for just about everyone. But I love the Stones, old age, wrinkles and all. They are still the greatest.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DARling 10/21/2019 8:49:23 AM (No. 213313)
The 70's albums contained a lot of classics. Tattoo You was also a terrific album, but probably the last one I cared for. The 1981 tour that supported it was great, too. I saw "The Stones" that year and they played for three hours. Such energy, and they had played the day before at the same huge venue.
Brian Jones had turned into a sullen, erratic cancer upon the group. Having an entire article devoted to the premise that anything produced after he left the group was stale and lacking in innovation is quite unfair to the rest of the band.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 10/21/2019 8:52:06 AM (No. 213317)
The writer is throwing stones at the Stones. I lost interest in the Rolling Stones after their third album. I'm just not into Jurassic Rock but then make millions while you still can. Let's keep the earth green for Keith Richards.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Mass Minority 10/21/2019 9:03:11 AM (No. 213328)
If you really want to feel old think of this to the graduating High School Class of 2019 Their music is Rap, their parents music is Seattle grit like Nirvana or hopeless pop like the Spice Girls to them Guns and Roses was a bunch of has beens.. Their grandparents music was vapid droning disco and the Sex Pistols. The music of the Rolling Stones and the Beatles belongs to their Great Grandparents.
I saw the stones once, I think it was the in Philly in 1981. Heres rolling stones opening review
"The 180,000 people who turned out to see the opening shows of the Rolling Stones‘ 1981 concert tour at Philadelphia’s John F. Kennedy Stadium couldn’t have cared less that the band was out of shape and two or three times older than many of those in the audience."
In my opinion everybody should have gotten their money back, it was awful. The only saving grace was that George Thoroughgood was the opner and he brought the house down.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bad-hair 10/21/2019 9:10:28 AM (No. 213342)
Charlie watts … one of the world's greatest living drummers? Seriously ?
TRY
Richie Hayward … Little Feat
Roger Taylor … Queen
Dennis Chambers … Santana
I could go on
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 10/21/2019 9:25:09 AM (No. 213364)
Don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am getting a little sick and tired of the younger generations sniping at us older folks. At least we had actual music to enjoy, not the rapper hate fest, the slutty women posing as singers and all the rest. Our music seems to last forever and is still good to listen to, whereas the music of today is in one ear and out the other then forgotten.
If you ever get curious about social contributions that generations make, try looking up the top 25 contributions Boomers made vs contributions of Gen X and Millennials. You will be shocked to learn that they have only contributed cynicism, and sorry but that is not our fault.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
offrope 10/21/2019 9:30:47 AM (No. 213371)
Same thing happened to Pink Floyd when Syd Barrett finally lost his mind - it just wasn't the same great band.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Clinger 10/21/2019 9:32:17 AM (No. 213373)
I think the Stones did some of the absolute best of the best during a brief time when every month saw more great music released than most if not all subsequent years. That said their career has managed to run all this timer on the fumes left from the 60's which itself is quite some form of accomplishment.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 10/21/2019 9:51:58 AM (No. 213394)
Have to imagine that the Rolling Stones have been living on past glories for decades. Not necessarily a bad thing. Just means they peaked in the 70s and 80s. Its a testament to their popularity that people still come out to see them. We should be so lucky.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Pluperfect 10/21/2019 10:01:01 AM (No. 213402)
No, #5. The writer is Luke Haines. I used Outline.com so no reader would be denied access to Spectator USA. Outline sometimes auto-fills the author and in this case it autofilled wrong. Here is the Spectator url and you can see Haines' byline.
https://spectator.us/grandpa-rolling-stones-why/
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/21/2019 10:33:21 AM (No. 213444)
I saw the Rolling Stones during their Last Tour Ever in 1985 (Steel Wheels). They still had it and the concert was fantastic. I would not expect to see that this time around.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 10/21/2019 10:37:16 AM (No. 213447)
The Stones were the bad boys, when they became mainstream they lost that edge. I still think 'sympathy for the devil' is one of the best ever.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Billw 10/21/2019 11:06:40 AM (No. 213473)
Oh, sure. Brian Jones. Please. Talented but damaged. Mick Taylor's work on later songs was phenomenal. Can anyone name a riff master better than Keith? Two million people on the Copacabana beach couldn't be wrong.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 10/21/2019 11:50:04 AM (No. 213522)
#11, I believe Ginger Baker should be in your list.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
zoidberg 10/21/2019 11:59:16 AM (No. 213533)
#20, Ginger Baker is no longer living.
A few great living drummers: Alan White, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, Neal Peart, Jason Bonham.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
coldoc 10/21/2019 12:24:32 PM (No. 213555)
Saw them around 1971 with stevie wonder as an opener. The image does not require an upgrade.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
texaspast 10/21/2019 12:26:58 PM (No. 213557)
President Trump's entry/exit song 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' off of the 'Let it Bleed' album is perfect for him. I think one reason progressives are turning on the Stones is that no one connected with the Stones has made a fuss over him using it. Heck, he probably pays a royalty for every time it is played at one of his appearances!
And this writer saying 'Honkey Tonk Women' is 'the Stones first bad single - man, that was a great song! I spent many a quarter in a juke box playing HTW (and two other random songs).
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
DVC 10/21/2019 2:17:39 PM (No. 213654)
Hmm. I was never much of a Stones fan, but this guy is really not happy with them.
Whatever.
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Saw an Adam Ant backstage interview during an outdoor festival a few years back. He assumed that the parents (i.e., his contemporaries that he expected to see in the audience) must have been in the back, sitting in lawn chairs, because there were only kids in the crowd. More surprising, they knew all the lyrics - "which I suppose is a good thing 'cause I don't always remember 'em, myself, these days."
Clever, and probably well spoken.
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