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A Deep Cleansing of the
Deep State Is Coming

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 10/2/2019 4:55:15 AM

First, it is likely that President Donald Trump violated some cockamamie administrative rule when he recently spoke with the new Ukrainian president about the potential corrupt dealings of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, in Ukraine. Fine. Can’t Trump just pay a fine or something? Yes, he should’ve been more careful (and he needs to tell Rudy Giuliani to calm down, as the former mayor risks perjuring himself before not one, but three Congressional committees). What Trump did was the equivalent of going 15 mph over the speed limit in rural Georgia: it happens. Rarely does anyone notice. Ignorance is still not a viable legal defense.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bassman 10/2/2019 5:03:15 AM (No. 195247)
At this pace I won't be alive to see it!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Locarno 10/2/2019 5:45:49 AM (No. 195256)
I know a lot of people are impatient for action, and I certainly share that feeling. But remember, this deep state has been building for nearly a century now, since FDR's 'New Deal' fiasco made govt into a deity. Like a cancer, it has grown but deftly conceals itself so the sufferer is unaware of its presence until its too late. So this unaccountable administrative state has a 90-year head start on us, and only now are we trying to excise this malignancy. If it were not for the corrupted Obama admin that weaponized and partisanized the DS, we may still be blissfully unaware if this cancer and our Republic is going to suffer for our delay. Like it or not, we are going to feel the pain of this. But to save our Republic, we must be prepared to do whatever it takes to rid ourselves of these traitors. The demorats now need to be declared in open rebellion against the Constitution, requiring the President and all defenders of the Constitution to follow their oaths and use the military might we paid for to suppress this rebellion.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum 10/2/2019 5:49:27 AM (No. 195259)
While I agree with the author’s conclusions, I do not free that the President has broken any law by talking to the Ukrainian President. I will not give the left an inch to sully the President with this absurd charge. As the Chief Law Enforcement Agent of the United States, he is well within in rights to seek information for criminal activity by any citizen of this country. Therefore, our elites should not be off limits regardless of who they are or what position they have held or currently hold. There is ample evidence to indicate, on video no less, that Biden is guilty of extorting Ukraine and who knows how many other countries and his son was being given massive amounts of money for his non-existent expertise because of his father’s position. The one thing we neglect to consider is that Joe Biden would be one of the easier candidates to beat in the election. I don’t believe he was much of a threat. Why would the President bother with this strategy when he would easily beat Biden for the Presidency. The democrats are grasping for straws with this accusation because they fear that their little house of cards is about to be destroyed. The real high crimes and misdemeanors have the names of the very upper echelon of the democrat party written all over them. After three years of unbelievable partisan scrutiny by every intelligence agency and the corrupt FBI, this President has been found to be not guilty of any of the charges for which they have falsely accused him. Democrats are so engulfed in their own crimes that the only play they have is to falsely accuse the President again. This will continue until they are finally exposed as the purveyors of sedition. God willing, that day will come sooner than later. The Deep State believe they are invincible. If there is any justice in this country, that belief will be their downfall.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DynomiteThings 10/2/2019 6:06:01 AM (No. 195264)
While I agree with #2's cancer analogy, I fear that it is in fact too late. The DS cancer has spread so deftly, so far, so wide and so deeply that it may be inoperable at this point. I hope not.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: tom7 10/2/2019 6:06:42 AM (No. 195265)
So, Brandon, name the rule that was violated. I don't think any such violation occurred.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/2/2019 6:37:22 AM (No. 195291)
Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. Nothing at all that any of us should be defensive about. He has the power - - and the obligation - - to conduct foreign policy and to investigate crimes committed by Americans abroad. Brandon Weichert - - you're a spineless fool!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: OBX Pete 10/2/2019 6:43:16 AM (No. 195299)
Too little.....too late ! The people who are conducting the coup should be arrested and jailed NOW if we are to survive this crap. It ain't going to be pretty when the motorcycle boys show up in DC en masse.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: HPmatt 10/2/2019 6:47:35 AM (No. 195303)
The President is the Constitutional Executive - unless some action is proscribed by the US Constitution, he CANNOT violate any executive branch rule or procedure - he is exercising his Article II power. Just like he can speak about classified information to Putin - or the Iranians - if he wanted to - HE has the authority to do whatever HE deems necessary. The issue of High Crimes and Misdemeanors - from English Civil Law - would be a check on endangering the Republic, like things that Obama and Hillary and John Kerry and Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch have done while in their High Offices.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/2/2019 7:27:15 AM (No. 195332)
Brandon, I hope you are right. The cleansing is badly needed. But, we have been waiting a long time for this to happen. Worse than watching paint dry. The dim party must be taken down starting with their removal from the House. Criminal acts must be dealt with maximum penalties and imprisonment. Pelousi and Shifter among others must be impeached, criminally charged and removed.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 10/2/2019 7:40:21 AM (No. 195342)
Great discussion replies here. This is what makes Lucianne the first site I go to all day long.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Franz 10/2/2019 8:49:53 AM (No. 195409)
The Deep State is a bunch of tyrants that want to control every aspect of our lives. In the past, they have gone mostly unchallenged, so they have been far more subtle in imposing more control. President Trump is the first person to challenge this power grab and the claws and the fangs came out with a vengeance. The IRS, FBI, CIA, and NSA all have been shown to have Deep Staters in their upper management. Most of the Democrats and several Republicans have also revealed themselves to be Deep Staters. The conditions today are more like before the French Revolution than before the American Revolution. Let us hope this does not end up going the way of the French Revolution and the resulting Terror.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Muguy 10/2/2019 8:54:16 AM (No. 195416)
It sure would be great if the DS could be taken down, but it is highly unlikely that it will be. The Founders KNEW the evil nature of man and devised the system of "checks and balances" to prevent this, but today things have been perverted, and ANY attempt to use those checks and balances is met with almost TOTAL resistance or is ignored by those who would lose their power. Take a look at the communist/socialist nations and you will see just how going against those who "rule" over their citizens are dealt with--DEATH! The media has shut out dissenting opinion, people have been banned, "shadow banned", demonetized, or shut down completely by what are called "community standards". The large majority of media outlets make up false charges and innuendo and publicly RUIN all those who go against their charade, and there is no room for dissent or contrary opinions--only the 'approved" message can be promoted. Out in REAL America, things haven't changed that much, but the folks are getting steamed by such rude treatment and the media making up things against others.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 10/2/2019 9:05:18 AM (No. 195428)
It is the Senior Executive Service (SES) that runs the federal bureaucracy that needs serious reform, to prohibit those senior bureaucrats who are at the top of the federal agencies from engaging in politics. If they want to be politicians they should run for political office instead of being covert “Deep State” politicians when they are supposed to be running all the non-political bureaucratic federal agencies.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: gone2pot 10/2/2019 9:07:53 AM (No. 195435)
Wow, Brandon's unicorn ranch must be huge and the Skittles they poop have to be absolutely delicious for those who think the deep state will be cleansed, especially with a GOP that NEVER fails to bravely and with furrowed eyebrows, fall down, roll over and soil itself whenever a Marxist whispers boo in their ears. Happy unicorn pooped Skittles eating to you Brandon!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: ledbythnose 10/2/2019 9:08:58 AM (No. 195436)
#2 Bravo ! Brilliant analogy . And yes it took us a long time to get here. The first of which was sitting back as these Treasonous Morons foisted the IRS and all the other post Constitution Agencies on us. And doing nothing. Now we have a Man who is fighting to right the Ship of State. And if he is able to accomplish it with our support. He may become the next George Washington. God Bless America.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Laotzu 10/2/2019 9:30:26 AM (No. 195471)
The Clinton impeachment taught the Democrats an important lesson -- they can get away with anything. It launched them into turbocharged lawlessness under Ma Clinton. Things have not yet slowed down. They have just become slightly more public and well documented. And Democrats continue without pause.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: ARKfamily 10/2/2019 9:30:41 AM (No. 195472)
The United States and the country of Ukraine have an agreement between them and Lucianne had that article posted a few days ago. So if there is an agreement between Ukraine and the U.S., what was violated Brandon?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/2/2019 9:31:14 AM (No. 195474)
I know this is proceeding slow but this coup and deep state has many legs or tentacles. If the DOJ or IG had struck to prosecute too soon as evidence unfolds there is a chance of losing. If one loss in the prosecution takes place there will be other losses. Air tight evidence and winning is imperative. Yes I want all the perps writing their books and memoires while serving forty years in a jail cell not sitting on panels at CNN and MSNBC. I'm patient but fear I won't be around at my age to see the winning and rule of law in our government take place.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: MDConservative 10/2/2019 9:56:18 AM (No. 195497)
Here comes the rain...the Deep State is not going to be rooted out as it is too valuable to "government". It does the dirty work, and there is always plenty to be done. At best a few names will get busted to some minor extent because the roster of bad guys would eviscerate the American political Who's Who. Take the case of James Wolfe as an example. Too much dirt; too many secrets to potentially expose. Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rosenstein and others, including many of the famed "Gang of Eight" and the UNIPARTY leadership of the Congress, ought to be prosecuted for coup-related crimes, from conspiracy to sedition to fraud - at least the ever-popular lying to law enforcement. Think that's going to happen? That's the Deep State...
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Reply 20 - Posted by: America Rising 2020 10/2/2019 10:36:22 AM (No. 195556)
When...? AG..? I dont trust the IG
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Reply 21 - Posted by: NotaBene 10/2/2019 11:09:24 AM (No. 195608)
Give the seditionists nothing. No, Trump is careful, and Rudy does not need calming down and Pence is a sterling man. There is no impeachment opened by a vote so what the Communists are doing is a partisan pantomime. We need to go on the attack. Google Michael Berry and Whistelbower. This Judas was the senior NSC Director for Intelligence programs at the White House. The CIA and FBI are treasonous from top to bottom and should be disbanded.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DVC 10/2/2019 11:23:44 AM (No. 195631)
I keep hoping, but so far ZIPPO. They tell a great story, but nothing happens.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: sherlock1 10/2/2019 12:00:50 PM (No. 195681)
Two fundamentals we have to understand and be prepared to drive home to the LoFos of the Democrat base, including those in the media wing: 1. Running for any office does not confer immunity from scrutiny, investigation, or even prosecution. It didn't for candidate, nominee, or President-elect Trump, and it doesn't for Biden now. Ask Jim Comey. Ask John Brennan. 2. When the President acts within his legal authority, there is no requirement that he must avoid doing anything that also benefits himself or his party. That is settled law for many decades now. If he was acting within his authority as the Chief LEO to investigate corruption by high officials of the United States, that's the end of the discussion with respect to the legality of his actions, or his duty to keep that investigation confidential.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: preciosodrogas 10/2/2019 12:26:37 PM (No. 195708)
Delayed justice is injustice. It has been discussed many times on this site. Generally, involving a 20 year appeal process before executing someone that needed to be executed from day one. It's not justice then and feelings expressed now bring that thought to mind. By the time all the Ts are crossed so much damage has been done to the nation's sense of what is just. Like the death sentence what value does it have 20 years after the fact?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Chuzzles 10/2/2019 12:58:15 PM (No. 195752)
No writer, he did not violate any rule. The treaty signed by Clinton during his era gave Trump all the legal permission he needed to engage with Ukraine in a joint investigation of corruption. It is a boil that needs a serious lancing, and both Presidents know it. Ukraine tried when they wanted to deliver evidence to the Obama DOJ, which denied them visas for entry. This is all about Biden and company protection, and deflection from Spygate. I hope Pompeo, Trump and Barr have the sand to stand up to the sludge tsunami that is gonna happen after such a cleansing.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 10/2/2019 1:19:12 PM (No. 195771)
The IG report? The Barr report? Now we got ‘em! s/
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Reply 27 - Posted by: rochow 10/2/2019 2:12:39 PM (No. 195847)
Weichert, did you read/hear the entire phone conversation???
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Reply 28 - Posted by: rsgonner 10/2/2019 3:52:18 PM (No. 195936)
The problem is that "justice delayed is justice deferred". We need to get off the lame defense and start the offense. The "republicans" control the Senate. Fine..let's start the interrogations there.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: weejun 10/3/2019 4:16:27 AM (No. 196271)
Amen, #28. The Republicans have been losers for so long they have forgotten how to act when they win. The House may have the authority to commence impeachment proceedings, but surely the Senate has authority to do something other than wring their hands while the clowns in the House conduct their 3-ring circus. Unless the Repubs go on offense right now, I am afraid the Dems’ media-fueled momentum Might require herculean efforts to slow down/stop.
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