Birds Are Vanishing From North America
New York Times,
by
Carl Zimmer
Original Article
Posted By: frew,
9/21/2019 3:27:53 PM
The number of birds in the United States and Canada has fallen by 29 percent since 1970, scientists reported on Thursday. There are 2.9 billion fewer birds taking wing now than there were 50 years ago.
The analysis, published in the journal Science, is the most exhaustive and ambitious attempt yet to learn what is happening to avian populations. The results have shocked researchers and conservation organizations.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Obviousity 9/21/2019 3:31:30 PM (No. 185806)
Any correspondence with wind electrical generation is to be ignored.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MOBeef4u 9/21/2019 3:32:16 PM (No. 185809)
I wonder if they use the same algorithms for this as for all the global climate predictions that haven’t been right yet. Not going to get too concerned because I know the narrative trumps facts. I just don’t trust them.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
droopydog 9/21/2019 3:45:06 PM (No. 185822)
I looked at the headline, then the publication, then I went into full ignore mode.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 9/21/2019 3:46:58 PM (No. 185824)
It's the NYT. I don't believe a word they print.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 9/21/2019 3:47:22 PM (No. 185826)
How many millions of birds killed by windmills?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 9/21/2019 3:47:53 PM (No. 185827)
This type of story has been around since Rachael Carson wrote "The Silent Spring" in 1962.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
MattMusson 9/21/2019 3:53:40 PM (No. 185833)
Some sadistic maniac has erected thousands of mechanical bird choppers in all the windiest parts of North America.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 9/21/2019 3:54:41 PM (No. 185834)
Beat 'em to death with windmills and fry 'em with solar. Gee Whiz! I wonder where the birds are.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
mean Gene 9/21/2019 3:54:41 PM (No. 185835)
Solar arrays can fry birds and flying insects right out of the air.
Wind turbines slice & dice more birds than ever before now that more of them are in operation.
Birds?
Didn't Obama's EPA give waivers to "renewable energy sources" for the bird deaths they cause?
Yeah, he did that.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
EQKimball 9/21/2019 3:55:13 PM (No. 185837)
The population of the United States is 330 million. In 1970 it was 205 million. As we consume land land needed to build concrete cities and highways, we decrease the amount of natural bird habitat.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jalo1951 9/21/2019 4:00:11 PM (No. 185842)
Well, duh. I'm sure it's climate change, or white privilege, or racism, or toxic masculinity, or Trump supporters, or white nationalism, or Chick Fil A lovers, or ----- insert your favorite here.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Melanie 9/21/2019 4:07:21 PM (No. 185845)
Windmills and huge solar panel farms are killing a lot of them... Way more than oil/gas wells and pipelines.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
beancounter 9/21/2019 4:10:26 PM (No. 185847)
Sounds like we need sensible cat control.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
mythman 9/21/2019 4:12:04 PM (No. 185849)
Birds vanishing? Maybe due to the slaughter perpetrated by wind turbines and the incineration from solar panel farms?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 9/21/2019 4:14:24 PM (No. 185850)
And #6, Carsen was lying back then, too.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
bgarrett 9/21/2019 4:15:36 PM (No. 185851)
I dont believe anything the The New York Slimes says
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
4Justice 9/21/2019 4:17:10 PM (No. 185853)
It is not just here in America. Birds are disappearing in Europe too. I think excessive use of pesticides, pollution and corporate agricultural practices as well as a loss of habitat has a lot to do with it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
4Justice 9/21/2019 4:20:11 PM (No. 185855)
Don't let the publication turn you off. This is happening from what I have heard.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 9/21/2019 4:32:33 PM (No. 185865)
Tell that to the hundred or so blackbirds that were in my backyard yesterday.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
jimincalif 9/21/2019 4:37:53 PM (No. 185875)
We’re all going to die! We have just 12 weeks to save the birds, and the entire planet!
Seriously though, the word “estimate” appears 9 times in the article. Maybe the scientists used a Michael Mann’s method of “adjusting” the data to fit the narrative. FTA: “Researchers from universities, government agencies and nonprofit organizations collaborated”. Yeah, right, they don’t have an agenda.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
chumley 9/21/2019 4:54:22 PM (No. 185884)
Is this the newest internet thing we are supposed to be outraged about? Gee, I'm almost out of outrage what with people leaving the seat up, shooting cut grass into the road, smoking, vaping, and now this.
There were lots of birds in 1970. There are lots of birds now. Good grief.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 9/21/2019 4:56:57 PM (No. 185887)
How many of them were killed by wind turbines?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
DVC 9/21/2019 5:02:00 PM (No. 185895)
Correction to an apparent technical misconception by several posters.
There are two broad categories of "solar farms". The most common, by probably 100,000 to one, or more is the photoelectric array, which has a bluish look, and absorbs light, and the photocells directly convert the light into electricity. These are pretty much harmless to birds.
The second category is "solar power towers" which work just like a normal central power station, heat boiling water, the steam driving turbines which drive generators. The difference is a field of mirrors which
track the sun and reflect the image of the sun onto a tall central tower. If you have a thousand mirrors of 2 meters by 3 meters, you will have the heat which falls on 2000x3000 meters of ground reflected onto a single 2 meter by 3 meter area on the power tower......so it gets VERY hot. If a bird were to fly by a
few meters (or probably even 10 meters) away from the power tower, the sun's rays are already pretty concentrated there and this could kill the bird. This kind of power station only exists in a few locations, maybe 3 to 5 in the country. Most of what you see are photovoltaic arrays, harmless to birds, pretty much like big windows, maybe some reflection issues or birds attacking their images, perhaps but not much of an issue.
Windmills.....big, fast moving, silent killers.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
rochow 9/21/2019 5:08:43 PM (No. 185906)
Just to let the NY Slime know this: thousands of bird species have disappeared due to cats. No, let's not go kill those cute little felines, but the NY Filth rag of course is trying to make a comment about unsubstantiated 'information'. Hey, anyone who hires 'the basket case' must really be dealing with uneducated trash!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
stablemoney 9/21/2019 5:24:31 PM (No. 185919)
This is the biggest lie and nonsense. We in Houston have so darn many birds it is impossible to go outdoors without waste bombardment, obnoxious noises, attacks on the sidewalk. The birds have not disappeared. They have moved out of the socialist states to Texas.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Strike3 9/21/2019 5:37:32 PM (No. 185929)
They are not coming as far north as they used to because it's too dang cold up here in the winter time. I saw a couple of crows with earmuffs on last year and at least one turkey volunteered to go into the oven on Thanksgiving just so it could be warm for a while.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
JL80863 9/21/2019 5:50:43 PM (No. 185937)
US cities cover 3.5% of the countries surface area #10. About 64% of our population live in those cities.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
chillijilli 9/21/2019 6:01:56 PM (No. 185944)
Well, perhaps the bird population has radically increased in China, India or Russia. OneWorld and all that, you know. So no reason for alarm, Mr Carl Zimmer.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
preciosodrogas 9/21/2019 6:25:35 PM (No. 185955)
The birds are not vanishing ... they just flew the coop.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
msts 9/21/2019 6:48:17 PM (No. 185963)
I think the total dead would need a time line to cross reference in order to see what would need to be done.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
snakeoil 9/21/2019 6:49:37 PM (No. 185964)
I am not into birds. They leave presents on my car. They make annoying sounds. They make holes in my house and make it their nests. And please watch Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. The only exceptions are chickens and turkeys because they are delicious. But if you are into birds remember the NY Slimes makes a great liner for their cage.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Ben Around 9/21/2019 6:57:17 PM (No. 185968)
I wonder who counts the birds everyday to track how many there are?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
konocti95 9/21/2019 6:57:18 PM (No. 185969)
Did some checking on this story. Estimates are over 1,000,000,000 (one Billion) birds get killed by cats (mostly the feral cats) each year. Easy and cheap solution to the problem: The global warming kids can each get a pellet gun and spend one afternoon a week outdoors!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
red1066 9/21/2019 7:18:29 PM (No. 185986)
I'd leave too if I had to fly the gauntlet of wind turbines every day. On a recent plane flight to Denver, I looked out the window for more than five minutes with mile after mile of nothing but wind turbines. Add in the amount of solar panels frying birds in flight, and it's a virtual killing field for our feathered friends.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
pensom2 9/21/2019 7:40:49 PM (No. 185995)
There's little doubt that wind and solar energy production are responsible for a considerable percentage of the avian population drop. Meanwhile, the populations of bird predators, such as cats, falcons, and hawks, is consistently rising. The North American population of Cooper's hawks in particular has been rising exponentially. They kill large numbers of young fledgling songbirds that cannot yet fly well enough to evade them. In the spring in Albuquerque, New Mexico for example, there are as many as two Cooper's Hawk nests per square mile.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
woodenleg 9/21/2019 7:44:20 PM (No. 185997)
My BS detector went off.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Vesicant 9/21/2019 8:17:21 PM (No. 186012)
Well, if the birds are dead, dhimmicrats should be happy -- the dead birds can become registered voters.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
padiva 9/21/2019 9:58:40 PM (No. 186048)
Are birds part of the food chain?
Do birdies become food for other animals?
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Safari Man 9/21/2019 10:09:02 PM (No. 186054)
Oh look, here’s a bird for ya!
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
LadyHen 9/21/2019 10:15:13 PM (No. 186055)
My urban Tennessee backyard and my car disagree. Plenty of birds here. Everything from chickadees and cardinals to 3 species of woodpecker to red shoulder hawks.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
IdahoJoe 9/21/2019 10:23:02 PM (No. 186058)
The Times is probably secretly happy. Chairman Mao declared that 'birds are public animals of capitalism'.
He had his people kill hundreds of millions of birds by chasing them and making noise till they died of exhaustion. The lack of birds caused a famine that is estimated to have caused 45 million deaths, but leftists consider humans to be pests anyway. Socialists always know what's best. If you disagree then you're a science denier living in an unsustainable manner.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 9/21/2019 11:53:55 PM (No. 186074)
Remember in the 1970's it was all the fault of DDT, so they banned DDT and the birds are still dying. So will they bring back DDT? No.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 9/22/2019 12:20:11 AM (No. 186079)
Birds? They are leaving because they are disgusted. They get no respect anymore. All they ever did was work together with the bees to help our crops and occasionally poop on a Buick or two. Then word came from the streets of San Francisco. They reason they can no longer compete with drunks and drug addicts for poop priority.
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It's because the squirrels eat their food.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
JimBob 9/22/2019 1:08:55 AM (No. 186095)
Hmmmmm.... the NYSlimes reporting on an article in 'Science'.
We all know how 'fair' and 'balanced' the "We Built our entire newsroom around Impeaching Trump" NYSlimes is.
Now to the Slymes' source..... just as bad, or maybe even worse.
Years ago I subscribed to 'Science News', a weekly 'science' newsletter published by 'Science' magazine.
I cancelled after a couple of years because EVERY article included some type of propaganda about how people were destroying the environment yada-yada-yada.
EVERY article had this gloom-and-doom. Apparently it was a policy mandate from the people controlling the money-bag drawstrings.
Recently I skimmed through a copy of National Geographic and saw the same thing. People are BAD. Jet Planes are BAD...... on the facing page was an advertisement for a VERY expensive world tour to exotic places... by JET PLANE.
What 2-faced hypocrites!
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BS now stands for bird science.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Trigger2 9/22/2019 2:10:43 AM (No. 186111)
Wind mills are bird serial killers. Every Spring I would watch a flock of robins arrive. I'd count them on the lawn and they would number in the 30s. This last Spring, the number was eight. Barry gave these serial killers a waiver to allow them to commit murder as fast as they could chop them up.
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Yet another crisis. Naturally, lots of money and government power is needed to save the birds. Nowhere in the article is the there the mention of windmills as a cause of bird death. Wrong narrative, apparently.