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The Collapse of English Lit at Columbia

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Posted By: Hazymac, 8/22/2019 12:21:10 PM

Scenes from the higher education apocalypse: I don’t know whether Columbia University’s graduate program in English literature is as premier in the field as it was back in the glory days of Lionel Trilling, but yesterday the Chronicle of Higher Education reported this: Columbia Had Little Success Placing English Ph.Ds on Tenure Track. “Alarm” Followed, and the University Responded The story is unfortunately behind the Chronicle‘s paywall, but when you get into the story it turns out the headline is misleading: It should read “No Success” rather than “Little Success,” because the number of Columbia English Ph.Ds placed in tenure-tracked jobs this year was Zero.

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This LDotter was an English major. Other majors led to more lucrative fields of endeavor, but to me proper language, the lingua franca of clear communication, is sacred.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Strike3 8/22/2019 1:21:36 PM (No. 159309)
Hint to prospective students: You can read every classic ever written for free on Amazon Kindle and they are presented without the liberal bias that you would have suffered at Columbia. You really don' t need a Ph.D to explain to you what the author is saying because those authors did a much better job of explaining things.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 8/22/2019 2:15:27 PM (No. 159355)
The "top schools" today are such sewers of leftist, racist, feminazi garbage that there is nothing there of value any more.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 8/22/2019 2:44:39 PM (No. 159388)
I agree with OP, but while studying lit you've got to plan for a regular career so you can have the money to take those Oxford summer courses. Teeth gnashing not necessary, just planning, and a mentor.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: lakerman1 8/22/2019 2:52:44 PM (No. 159396)
In 1973, the Modern Language Association (MLA) (which is to English PROFESSORS as the American Medical Association is to physicians) issued an edict stating that no one form of English is superior to any other form of English. That was really the beginning of the end of English literature. And at that time, the slam on 'dead white authors,' including Shakespeare, began, and continues to this day. Ebonics became institutionalized, with the attendant disappearance of verbs, and English used properly was disdainfully described as 'standard' English. 'He workin' and 'he be workin' replaced 'he has a job' or 'he is at work today. The final killer of English literature, though, is known as 'deconstruction,' something that I cannot even describe. And 'whatever' became the anthem of ignorance, shutting down rational discussions.. And compliant, cowardly English professors allowed it all to happen.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nashman 8/22/2019 4:09:07 PM (No. 159435)
I was also an English major. And now, I'm a professional writer. I'll tell anyone in earshot that Capitalism gave me a shot at making a very good living by placing words in my own creative order and getting paid small dump trucks full of money to do it. This "English majors" wouldn't last three seconds in the competitive writing world. I encourage them to learn the phrase "Would you like fries with that?"... well... until the robots take that job from them, too.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: subal 8/22/2019 4:15:11 PM (No. 159436)
So just what can people with a degree in Eng Lit do other than BS in vague, lesser used phrases?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: The Remnants 8/22/2019 7:25:42 PM (No. 159532)
When I heard those young men railing about something - I really didn't know what they were saying - as they dumped cans of water on those policemen in New York, I was wondering when, if ever, they were taught English in grammar school. I taught little second graders English, and we learned about nouns and pronouns and subjects and predicates and sentence structure so they could soon write a little paragraph, and they were all able to read at the end of the school year too, which is not all that hard to do, but it is a foundation that these kids are not getting in their schools and the parents should find out who is responsible. I don't know how these inner-city schools are allowed to get away with their really poor teaching practices. Of course, how are the children going to learn to speak well if the teacher speaks Ebonics? (I did not know it had become institutionalized>) Then they are discouraged from reading any good literature (if they were well-taught how to read) because it supposedly is the white-man's writings, but you cannot learn to write fairly well if you do not read good writing. Then these kids who are poorly taught get more resentful as they get older when they cannot get a job and earn some money to be independent, and so they might sell drugs to make money, and then they could end up taking their resentment out on the cops who are just trying to keep the peace in their neighborhoods. Why don't some of these people who are calling everyone a racist, learn who is teaching these kids, and what kind of standards are set for them. They should learn more about the Teachers Union that seems to be holding these children back. They should try to go to the source, and they may discover that it may not be whitey.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: msjena 8/23/2019 1:29:46 AM (No. 159631)
#6–law school and teaching are obvious choices.
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