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Renewable Energy Hits the Wall

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Posted By: Magnante, 8/17/2019 9:31:04 AM

If the official definitions of renewable energy were logical, renewable energy would be defined as energy that does not emit CO2 and that is not using a resource in danger of running out anytime soon. But the definitions written into the laws of many states are not logical. Hydroelectric energy is mostly banned because the environmental movement hates dams. Nuclear is banned because a hysterical fear of nuclear energy was created by environmental groups. (snip) In approximately thirty states that mandate renewable energy, the only scalable forms of renewable energy allowed are wind and solar.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2019 10:02:28 AM (No. 154758)
FTA: "Wind and solar are basically a waste of money. The subsidies can be justified only as a payment for reducing CO2 emissions. But wind and solar are expensive devices for reducing emissions. " And this assumes you buy the BS, unscientific fairy tale that CO2 is harmful, rather than recognizing that CO2 is good for crop yields and harms nothing, and has no measurable effect on the climate.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: wildcat1 8/17/2019 10:06:23 AM (No. 154766)
Ethanol production from corn or sorghum is the only alternative that will work long term. Farmers are way too efficient at producing bushels.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: FunOne 8/17/2019 10:31:18 AM (No. 154775)
Liberals think that "clean" energy comes from an electrical outlet, and they are smug about their little baby electric cars. Yet a third of all of the US electrical energy is produced from coal. Until an economically viable energy source replaces coal--and there is nothing to suggest that is possible, the irony is that a third of America's light will continue to come from a very dark domain.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: bogeegolf 8/17/2019 10:37:56 AM (No. 154781)
I am sick and tired of paying for this CO2 bogusness The symbiosis between plants and animals is a beautiful thing.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: jacksin5 8/17/2019 10:42:10 AM (No. 154784)
Switching to a reliance on solar and wind power and eliminating conventional power generation sources will guarantee a supply shortage. Homeowners will be forced to install solar arrays at their own expense, because tax breaks and other incentives will be gobbled up by corporations, hospitals and other high usage entities. And what will the nations apartment dwellers do? Does NYC and other major metropolises think they have hundreds of acres available for wind or solar farms. Or do they think they can take over valuable farmland to be able to import power?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: mc squared 8/17/2019 10:52:16 AM (No. 154789)
And Rogers didn't even include the efforts to dispose of, or recycle the millions of tons of heavy metal and lead that replacing the batteries periodically will do. Batteries big enough to run a city aren't like the ones in your home - or even a Prius. Then there's the DC to AC conversion.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: davew 8/17/2019 12:03:17 PM (No. 154842)
There seems to be a common tendency by "progressives" through history that the reality of the laws of thermodynamics or supply and demand economics or human nature can be violated simply by the force of moral arguments. Whether it be power generation or battery powered cars or socialism or even prohibition they seem to inevitably repeat the catastrophic mistakes of history made by "well intentioned" but ignorant true believers.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: HotRod 8/17/2019 1:18:38 PM (No. 154909)
The radical environmentalists don't really care whether wind or solar is the answer, they just want it. They just want it the same way the radical left wants socialism. It sounds real good in theory, but it's a practical failure. It also has a political aspect that appeals to the radicals. Supposedly intelligent people ignore facts that reveal they are wrong.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bad-hair 8/17/2019 2:42:29 PM (No. 154954)
Oilfields on shore and offshore flare off (BURN) natural gas because it comes up with the oil. In order to keep the oil flowing they have to dispose of the gas. The flare off from just one of the offshore rigs I was on in the Gulf of Mexico in one week would have heated NYC for a day. Gas powered generating stations are relatively clean and must be run to cover "renewables" so why not burn the same gas we re-think a bit. Put generating stations on oil installations and creat electricity with the gas that's being burned to no purpose right now. Same environmental impact but with electricity as a result instead of NOTHING.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2019 4:26:05 PM (No. 155036)
Baloney, #2. The energy in ethanol is ultra inefficently created if you chase down the entire energy stream it takes to make the tractors, fuel them, make the fertilizers and spread them and the energy to make the ethanol refinery and fuel them. A serious energy sink, not a source.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2 8/18/2019 2:49:51 AM (No. 155273)
Cuomo is the worst governor dictator of all the states. He's approved a $50B (that's right billion) mega wind farm off LI with all the so-called power strictly limited to serve NYC. But guess what? The entire state population will have to pay for it with increases in their utility rates. Not NYC but the entire state rate payers. I wonder how much Cuomo and his corrupt party will pocket from this. It won't be chump change, that's for sure. He needs to be voted out. Unfortunately, NYC dumbbell leeches seeking more freebees and the finely tuned demonrat fraud machine will keep him in office.
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