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Telling the awful truth about
the new SAT ‘adversity’ score

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Posted By: Magnante, 5/17/2019 5:50:44 AM

Few people have the audacity to speak the truth about the underlying problem with the efforts to engineer “diversity” – which in practice means that blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans receive a share of jobs, college admissions, income, and other products of achievement at least proportional to their share of the population. Fortunately, Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute has a lot of guts. (snip) the College Board is feathering its own financial nest. So it's not only about hypocrisy, racial engineering, and achievement gaps, it's also about the money.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: F15 Gork 5/17/2019 5:56:56 AM (No. 66371)
This adversity scam, affirmative action and our broken immigration system share one thing in common - losers always move to the head of the line.....
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NancyD 5/17/2019 6:30:59 AM (No. 66380)
A system like this scam is happening with LSAT (Law school) too. However, there is a website where you can see each Law School, the LSAT score and acceptance from the University that shows that lower scored minority students get accepted into Law School whereas if you are white you must score higher to get accepted. It's a crock. Universities and liberalism are working to turn our Country into a Socialist State. The writing is on the wall. They lower expectation based on race, safe spaces, refuse to allow Conservatives speak on Campus, only liberal ideas are taught, and complete brainwashing.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/17/2019 6:48:57 AM (No. 66383)
" a veneer of pseudo-science to the racial engineering of outcomes" Yes, a pseudo-science fig leaf provided by the SATs to the colleges. This way when someone drags the colleges to the courts for affirmative action rigging of admissions, the colleges can point to the SATs as providing a "helpful" scale of adversity. The SATs can claim they only provide a "number". It is up to the colleges to "use" it. This hides the desired but illegitimate race based decision making in a cluster of fig leaves. Since the process will be "secret" it will take a lot of legal work to force them to reveal their "process". There is another aspect to this game. Disadvantaged students need more financial aid. The government has taken over the financial aid business. Allowing more disadvantaged students in brings them knocking on the government's door, proving the "need" for government help. However, the government has lower the requirements to qualify for aid, i.e. loans. So government is happy to give amounts of loan money that will impoverish students for life. It's a cash flow to the colleges. The new SAT adversity score facilitates this. Now the dems are all worried about the high levels of student debt that THEY facilitated. It's the same scam as the mortgage fiasco that caused the 2008 collapse and BO care. Dems create a financial disaster and then act as if they had nothing to do with it. A responsible approach would encourage disadvantaged students to less expensive community colleges and less expensive universities thereby minimizing student debt to manageable levels. But government would not be as needed and big ticket universities would find enrollment dropping.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 5/17/2019 7:13:48 AM (No. 66388)
The College Board is still not inclusive enough. For example - - dogs are severely underrepresented on college campuses. They've been subjugated and controlled for millennia - - primarily by white people - - without ever being given a fair chance to advance and succeed on their own. And all of the questions on the tests are posed within a human framework - - not allowing for the unique talents and capabilities possessed by canine individuals. It's time - - more than time - - that canine-friendly questions and evaluations are made - - and more members of the canine community gain their fair share of college admissions. Do it now!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 5/17/2019 7:24:29 AM (No. 66390)
So now, if you live a decent life, get married and staymarried, have a child or two, provide a decent home and nuture your children....your kids get penalized on the SAT?? Is the College Board trying to encourage dysfunctional families?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 5/17/2019 7:37:40 AM (No. 66391)
Will you really want one of these students to be your surgeon or your lawyer?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pepper Tree 5/17/2019 8:06:28 AM (No. 66398)
Q: Parents? A: Married. Q: Summer jobs? A: Yes Q: Household chores? A: Yes. Q: School standing? A: Top 3%. Q: Criminal record? A: No. Sorry, that’ll be 200 points OFF your earned SAT score.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 5/17/2019 8:07:45 AM (No. 66399)
Just what libs want, equal outcomes for everyone.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DynomiteThings 5/17/2019 8:20:54 AM (No. 66404)
Well said, #3!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Strike3 5/17/2019 8:26:10 AM (No. 66406)
This scheme will not persist because people can see through it already. Employers will know what they have sitting there in the interview room after five minutes of conversation. This sort of admitted inferiority should be embarrassing to blacks but as with all of the other affirmative action tricks, it won't be. I mention blacks and not the other groups because this was done solely for their purpose. Only centuries of evolution will fix that problem. Getting the government out of the student loan business would cure almost all of the problems in higher education. All they have done is make their product worse than useless.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: grampus 5/17/2019 8:27:38 AM (No. 66407)
Anyone know if the Miller Analogies Test (MAT) is still as meaningful (pure) as it used to be?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 5/17/2019 8:34:41 AM (No. 66413)
Racist. Pure and simple. The whole of historic suppression of blacks was not this dishonest. This is pure and simple, reverse racism. This is an effort to punish people who are smart, who work and study hard and to reward the low IQ, the lazy and the incapable. Fundamentally wrong.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 5/17/2019 8:37:17 AM (No. 66415)
Will white men and Asians get any "adversity" boost? After all, they are the only two groups whose members can be openly and legally discriminated against these days.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Krause 5/17/2019 8:37:34 AM (No. 66416)
You can do anything you want to help people get into college. Businesses will still want the actual best and brightest, not the fudged best and brightest. IMO.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: winnie1 5/17/2019 8:40:45 AM (No. 66418)
Simple go on merit. Look up how these kids performed in high school. What are these colleges doing about sports? I see on TV interviews with college basketball players they can't even put a sentence together. How come they are under the radar? It's all about MONEY!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: BassGirl88 5/17/2019 10:01:14 AM (No. 66449)
I've noticed that during all these SAT controversies Betsy DeVos has been mysteriously silent. Is this not in her realm or am I mistaken. Per Wikipedia re the Secretary of Education: This Secretary deals with federal influence over education policy, and heads the United States Department of Education. The Secretary is advised by the National Advisory Committee on Institutional Quality and Integrity, an advisory committee, on "matters related to accreditation and to the eligibility and certification process for institutions of higher education."
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Jack44 5/17/2019 10:14:49 AM (No. 66456)
This marks the beginning of the end for the SAT to be an effective, objective measure of a college applicant's probability of future academic success.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: joew9 5/17/2019 10:45:32 AM (No. 66467)
Do you feel safe if affirmative action high adversity scoring engineers are running a one thousand mega Watt nuclear reactor a few block away from your house?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: mc squared 5/17/2019 11:10:57 AM (No. 66484)
Good neighborhood, middle income, 2 parent household, high marks in high school? Not a minority? No college for you!
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Sanddollar 5/17/2019 1:31:06 PM (No. 66523)
I went to college with the beginning wave of affirmative action students. They could not handle college work even with tutoring and dropped out. What a waste of resources to admit students that cannot handle college level reading, math and science.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 5/18/2019 12:57:36 AM (No. 66640)
College isn't the only place this is taking place. It's sickening. I long for the day when race and gender is taken off applications. I belong to a group and it's hypnotic when blacks are told repeatedly that they were slaves, live in poverty and deserve more- just because. Affluent blacks are never mentioned. Why get married if the government rewards you for shacking up and having more babies?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DVC 5/18/2019 11:31:28 AM (No. 66842)
Overt, institutionalized racism against normal white people.
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