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Time to sound the alarm about 5G?

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Posted By: Magnante, 5/1/2019 10:13:23 AM

My grandmother cooked in her kitchen on a wood-burning stove until, at 92 years of age, she passed away. Wood stove technology is not as simple as some people think. We may have to learn it all over again. Here is why: I recently read an online article about something called 5G and became aware that this innovation will potentially enable any large government, our own or our adversaries, to spy, hack, sabotage or otherwise wreak havoc on the entire world infrastructure of communication and security. This is not hyperbole.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mc squared 5/1/2019 10:27:21 AM (No. 73762)
Suddenly the latest phone protocols will allow chaos?
I need more info.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40 5/1/2019 10:43:56 AM (No. 73759)
Three cantons in Switzerland have banned deployment of 5G. With good reason. We don’t need it.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: proximo 5/1/2019 10:43:57 AM (No. 73760)
Read the article. He´s concerned that China is largely making the 5G hardware that most of the world will use and they can put backdoors in. China swears they won´t but why should we believe them.

This goes back to Trump´s concern that a strong American economy is a security issue. We should not be farming out manufacturing of critical infrastructure to an enemy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: zzzghy 5/1/2019 10:57:03 AM (No. 73767)
Homo sapiens is one step away from entering the bottleneck in Frank Drake´s equation.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/1/2019 11:10:53 AM (No. 73764)
Who would have thought that the individual entities in "The Matrix" would be attached by their thumbs.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: chance_232 5/1/2019 11:13:28 AM (No. 73765)
I was mining bitcoins several years ago. I inadvertently discovered a chip whos apparent function was to skim a small percentage of what I was mining. After removing the chip, my processing speed went up as well as what I was mining. I showed the chip to someone that would know, and he informed me that the chip was military grade. Mind you, the miners were shipped to me directly from the Chinese manufacturer via their distributer.

Its not a question of IF the Chinese exploit the 5G, its how much will they exploit it. And in the event of a confrontation, they will weaponize it. I WOULD!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Highlander 5/1/2019 11:33:45 AM (No. 73763)
It’s a good thing I know how to trap and skin rabbits.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 5/1/2019 1:21:14 PM (No. 73761)
The one thing that seems problematic about 5G is reports of very short range, needing towers and repeaters at very short intervals, and inside buildings. This gives excellent non-GPS location capability to the service provider to locate each phone within a small region. Currently there is some broad location capability with multi-tower triangulation, but it isn´t very precise. IMO, a good thing. I keep my GPS off at all times on my phone.

Some of what he says is a bit overwrought, at this point. Most cars do NOT have any sort of transmit/recieve capability outside of your phone, which you can choose to link or not link. Those with OnStar, DO have that capability, and I would NEVER accept it. I was adjusting the rearview mirror on a rental car a few years back and was shocked to hear a woman´s voice asking me "What is your emergency?". I replied that I had no emergency and "Who is this?", I got back, "This is OnStar". After getting rid of her, I vowed to never have that in any car I purchased. I think OnStar only has been on GM vehicles, perhaps is a dying technology, it is not clear.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: mc squared 5/1/2019 1:23:00 PM (No. 73766)
Who makes current 4G and LTE equipment. Is it Chinese too, and why the sudden concern?
I want the Bell System and Western Electric back.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Smart11344 5/1/2019 1:28:04 PM (No. 73755)
I have an old cell phone. It does have a qwery keyboard. I hate texting. Once in a blue moon I may text a friend at work to give me a call when he has a chance. I almost feel bad for people who have OCD and need to check their phones many times a day to see who may have had a BM. (Hospital term)
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Reply 11 - Posted by: snakeoil 5/1/2019 2:13:41 PM (No. 73768)
Name something that isn´t made in China. In a way that´s good. Why would they go to war with their best customer. The 5G phones are out but it´s only available in two cities, Chicago and some other place. Since I don´t watch movies on my phone I don´t need more speed. So I hang onto my old phone for a while, a Samsung Galaxy S9. The S10 cost plenty. But the worst part is upgrading a phone is you have to reinstall most of your apps. And re pair it with you car. I´m not worried about 5G. I´ll worry about crime, my health, traffic, etc.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: sunnyday 5/1/2019 2:14:25 PM (No. 73757)
We live on a farm, can from the garden, but local beef, pork, chicken. We have chickens for eggs. We heat with wood that we cut. We have flip phones for when we are away from home. Our children know how to take care of themselves. I feel very sorry for those people who are only qualified to use a computer and their phones. This statement probably has nothing to do with the article.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 5/1/2019 2:51:30 PM (No. 73758)
Me, too, #10. Mine doesn´t even have a keyboard....texting is a pain, but I only need it for communication with my sons, and to carry with me when I´m on the road. After 45 years in the IT arena, the last thing I want to carry around with me is a computer! I figure I´m smart enough to carry a dumb phone.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 5/2/2019 12:00:01 AM (No. 73756)
#9 a lot is made by Qualcomm, I think.
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