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Kentucky governor says he intentionally exposed his 9 kids to chickenpox

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Posted By: MissMolly, 3/21/2019 4:07:34 AM

Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday that he deliberately exposed his nine children to chickenpox in lieu of vaccinating them, actions that follow reports of an outbreak of the contagious disease at a Roman Catholic school in a northern part of the state. “Every single one of my kids had the chickenpox," Bevin told Bowling Green radio station WKCT. "They got the chickenpox on purpose because we found a neighbor that had it and I went and made sure every one of my kids was exposed to it, and they got it. They had it as children.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: plomke 3/21/2019 4:14:27 AM (No. 7711)
The usual suspects will chime in any minute now,wait for it...electability...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DaddyO 3/21/2019 4:27:25 AM (No. 7710)
Chicken pox sent my adult neighbor to the emergency room when his kids got it. You want to get it as a kid, not as an adult. I´ve never heard of a chicken pox vaccine.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: SueDotSue 3/21/2019 4:29:58 AM (No. 7726)
Gov. Bevin adopted four of his nine kids from Ethiopia. Although I don´t live in Kentucky, I donated to his Republican primary campaign in 2014 when he ran against Mitch McConnell. Fortunately, Mr. Bevin was back the next year and was elected governor.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: pros7767 3/21/2019 4:30:21 AM (No. 7725)
Not a fan of the government telling us what we need to do, but the anti-vaccine crowd puts a lot of people at unnecessary risk, especially infants too young to get their vaccines.

Would Bevin expose his kids to measles too? What about the other illnesses we get vaccinated for?

Sorry, I like Bevin but this is asinine.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pepper Tree 3/21/2019 4:32:25 AM (No. 7721)
Oh goodie. In doing that the self-righteous prig also exposed his nine children to future outbreaks of Herpes Zoster (aka shingles).
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Highlander 3/21/2019 5:34:19 AM (No. 7714)
It would be great if I got a measles vaccination in 1949 at three years old. I would not be hard of hearing now. Anti-vaxxers are dangerously mis-informed.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DCGIRL 3/21/2019 6:05:32 AM (No. 7712)
My mom exposed all eight of us when we were kids to mumps, measles, and chicken pox. It´s what parents did back then.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: millstream 3/21/2019 6:35:32 AM (No. 7713)
unfortunately this issue is more emotional than factual for many people. Personally I see the risks of the vaccines are far more significant than the risks of the illness. Also natural exposure will lead to lifetime immunity...not so with the vaccine.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: MattMusson 3/21/2019 6:38:18 AM (No. 7715)
Great. As long as exposure doesn´t trigger SHINGLES in your elderly neighbors.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: sunnyday 3/21/2019 6:45:55 AM (No. 7724)
Exactly #9. I have been suffering with shingles since March 2. All I can say is get your shingles vaccine!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: BirdsNest 3/21/2019 6:56:16 AM (No. 7719)
My husband´s grandmother had shingles, she was miserable. It practically drove her crazy. I do not know what childhood diseases I had and there is no way to find out.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: StormCnter 3/21/2019 7:03:52 AM (No. 7717)
The risk of a wheelchair or an iron lung is worse than the Sabin or Salk preventatives, #8? Or whooping cough that can kill an infant instead of the vaccine?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: tisHimself 3/21/2019 7:55:12 AM (No. 7729)
Big pharma brought this hysteria on itself. The desire to treat health care, pills and vaccines as commodities , the purchase and use of which are receive the maximum encouragement, has resulted in advertising rather than information.

Just like the official party line of the Republican Establishment, the willingness to sell at all cost to the benefit of a few has pushed truth and principle off the stage.

Remember when Texas was willing to jeopardize its juvenile population with mandatory vaccinations, without parental consent, because the drug companies wanted to use up stockpiles of monopoly priced vaccines?

Health was once a commodity best used sparingly. Now that it is a trough refilled with fresh tax dollars, lobbyists, admen and other liars rush in to challenge areas best left to parents.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 3/21/2019 8:06:51 AM (No. 7718)
I was a child of the late 50s. Back then, before vaccines, parents routinely exposed their children to chicken pox, measles (both red and German), mumps and other diseases so that they´d get them as children rather than adults when it is much more dangerous. I had an older sibling and caught them all when she brought them home from school. It was routine practice to bring the neighborhood kids over so that they´d catch the virus as well. Aggravating for the mothers, but the only option available at the time and it worked for the most part. Now of course, vaccines are the desired approach.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter 3/21/2019 8:26:09 AM (No. 7708)
Slight correction to #13. The facts don´t match the assertion, Sir. The proposed HPV order would have allowed opt-outs and only applied to juvenile females. The order was never activated.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Kate318 3/21/2019 8:35:23 AM (No. 7720)
Good Lord, what an alternate universe we have created. Exposing children to chicken pox—either intentionally or not—was routine not that long ago. Whether you vaccinate or not, the principle is the same: exposure to the virus.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: MuncsSister 3/21/2019 9:22:46 AM (No. 7716)
The chicken pox vaccine was approved in 1995 and I imagine most of us posting here never received that vaccine and had chicken pox as children. Mumps and measles are a completely different story. While I believe in vaccinations and my children have received this and all other vaccines, I have a hard time getting worked up over this particular choice.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: tisHimself 3/21/2019 9:24:08 AM (No. 7730)
Certainly wasn’t for lack of effort by Texas lobbyists to surreptitiously get it done in the dark.

Wrong then, wrong now, wrong always.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: thewarden 3/21/2019 11:48:32 AM (No. 7709)
My best friend’s mom called my mom to report they had chicken pox, when I was 8 (1974). Mom sent my younger sister and me to play at their house. She was an RN—that’s how we did it back then. My son got the vaccine in 1999.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: columba 3/21/2019 12:06:56 PM (No. 7707)
Please remember that many vaccines today contain cells of aborted human beings.

How many murdered children do you want so that your children will not get chicken pox?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: kiwinews 3/21/2019 12:24:03 PM (No. 7723)
Decades ago when it was still considered an inevitable childhood disease, deliberate exposure to chicken pox made sense as a way to "get it over with". Adult onset chicken pox, measles and mumps were/are known to be much worse. Now though, chicken pox´s connection to shingles in later life is known. Shingles is no fun anytime, it´s horrendously painful and can leave permanent nerve damage - it´s especially awful in old folks´ homes.

This can all be avoided - take the gift science has offered us. GEEZ!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DVC 3/21/2019 12:28:49 PM (No. 7722)
Yeah, my parents did, too.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: BocaLaura 3/21/2019 12:48:44 PM (No. 7727)
Back in the 1950´s some mother thought she was doing everyone a favor by exposing them to the measles at a party. It was no favor to me. I contracted measles with the complication of pneumonia and missed one month of school.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 3/21/2019 2:57:35 PM (No. 7728)
Like many here, I had the Chicken Pox as a child. I´m not sure of the age since I don´t remember it, but my mother assures me that I did have it.

Unfortunately, it wasn´t a serious enough case to give me immunity. I contracted the Chicken Pox at age 29, after exposure to my nieces who BOTH had it at the same time.

I was as sick as a person is able to be and still remain out of the hospital, although, given how ill I was, I probably SHOULD have been hospitalized. I slept 20-22 hours a day, only getting up to use the bathroom or eat, and I don´t remember doing either very frequently. I do remember one instance where I got up to get something to eat and needed to take a three hour nap from the exertion.

Catching the Chicken Pox as an adult cost me a solid month of work and I only went back because my job was being threatened if I stayed out longer.

I don´t know the wisdom of deliberately exposing children to disease, especially when you cannot control the severity of the individual cases caught. And if the exposure doesn´t provide a serious enough case to provide immunity, these children are then susceptible to catching it again as adults, a FAR more serious problem.

We have the Chicken Pox vaccine for a reason - to keep children from the misery of the Chicken Pox and the resulting itching, burning and scarring. To NOT use such a resource is tantamount to child abuse.
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