We Can Now Answer the Question – Did
NSA Director Mike Rogers Warn Donald Trump
on November 17, 2016?
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
8/26/2025 11:11:43 AM
Was NSA Director Mike Rogers aware that political spying was conducted through the use of searches on the NSA database? Yes. Did NSA Director Mike Rogers take action in April 2016 to stop the searches within the NSA database that were entirely due to political surveillance? Yes.
Six months later, October 20, 2016, the extensive review of all the political surveillance searches done from November of 2015 to April of 2016 was completed; the NSA compliance officer briefed Director Rogers. Six days later on October 26, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers then informed the FISA court of the unlawful searches and his action to address the issue.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/26/2025 11:14:02 AM (No. 1995691)
Correction to OP Comment:
Remember the "About" searches of the NSA database?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
czechlist 8/26/2025 12:08:43 PM (No. 1995718)
As Sir James Goldsmith said way back in 1994 - we have allowed the instruments which are supposed to serve us to become our masters
It has taken decades to get to this point and will take a decade or more to fully correct things.
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Did Rogers tell President Trump about the political surveillance from November 2015 to April 2016? We now know the answer is no, he did not. Director Rogers did recommend an easier venue for the SCIF to operate with secured communication channels; but Rogers did not notify President Trump about the use of the NSA database for political spying.
I don't see the evidence for this conclusion anywhere in the article.
1. 10/20: Rogers is briefed on all the illegal searches of the NSA database.
2. "October": IC heads recommend Rogers be fired.
3. 11/17: Rogers travels without authorization to see the President-elect.
4. 11/18: Trump abandons Trump Tower and moves his SCIF to Bedminster.
How does Sundance know what the conversation was? Was he there? It's not a 4-star admiral's job to offer technical support for setting up a SCIF - but he might very well have informed him of surveillance activity. Remember, it was about this time that obama and the media began mocking Trump for claims about "wiretapping" of Trump Tower.
I still submit that ADM Rogers was the only patriotic player in the entire corrupt cabal that was the IC at the time.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Venturer 8/26/2025 12:28:03 PM (No. 1995725)
I could be wrong, I was once, but it sure sounds to me like he did tell Trump and was fired for doing it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/26/2025 12:53:34 PM (No. 1995735)
It is a good idea to read the linked material in these articles.
Although there is no direct evidence, there is a great deal of circumstantial evidence to indicate he DID tell Trump and that precipitated Trump's move. His visit to Trump plus his attitude toward the misuse of the NSA database to surveille American citizens unfdoubtedly precipitated his firing. He had to go.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 8/26/2025 1:59:12 PM (No. 1995764)
It's a really tough position to be put in to discover illegal activity and realize that the only way to really stop it is to carry out illegal activity yourself. THAT is the position that Rogers was put in. He did shut down the DB access. That was a legal action. Telling Trump, not yet President, was problematic but might have been the right thing to do. What was Trump told? We don't know. Maybe Trump was told nothing. Maybe he was told he was being spied on, without details. Maybe he was told everything and was grateful enough to keep quiet about it.
We now know what the IC and BO et. al. did and it was criminal. BO can't be held legally responsible but his already sagging reputation is about ready for a final flush. It will be great if the IC and BO's minions are held accountable.
As for the IC spying, it shows that things done with the best of intentions can be corrupted by evil people. What if any FISA warrants that involve political figures need to be approved by a 6 person committee. 3 dems, 3 Republicans. The courts seem to be rubber stamping the requests. That needs to be fixed.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
thefield 8/26/2025 2:01:53 PM (No. 1995767)
According to my finger counting Trump was still campaigning for president.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
thefield 8/26/2025 2:08:03 PM (No. 1995772)
Dates are screwy. November 8th was election day. What did November 2015 or October 2016 have to do with searches un l ess done for Biden.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/26/2025 2:38:28 PM (No. 1995775)
The video of the Devin Nunes presser is revealing. He tells us that the NSA database information accessed and disseminated was not about Russia. It was"incidental" information that had been ollected on Trump during the campaign and afterward and on his transition team members. Most occurred during the last months of 2016. Although Nunes did not ise the word, he was clearly talking about "spying".
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#8 - The unauthorized searches of the NSA database from November 2015 until April 2016 (when Rogers learned of it and immediately put a stop to it) were performed by "FBI contractors" (read, Perkins Coie) for the hillary campaign. Now that the DNI has released internal documents, the role played by the FBI in coordination with the campaign to hinder the Trump campaign has been exposed. Note the dates: Rogers cut off contractor to the database on April 18 2016. Perkins Coie - now cut off from their source - turns to Fusion GPS (and ultimately, Christopher Steele) to gather their intel on April 19. It's all there for anyone to see.
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By October 2016, the IC heads had been made aware that Rogers was playing by the rules and therefore hindering the opposition research on the Trump campaign. He was a dead man walking, and Clapper wanted him fired. On October 20, he received a full briefing of all unauthorized access to the database, and a month later decided to take the train to New York City for an unofficial call on the President-elect. Who knows if and how that act mitigated any of the damage inflicted on the Trump Presidency over the next four years?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 8/26/2025 3:49:29 PM (No. 1995791)
All we really need to know - - is that the vile cretin Clapper - - undoubtedly under orders from the Deep State 0bama/Hilary conspirators - - wanted Admiral Rogers to be fired.
This automatically - - and unquestionably - - makes Admiral Rogers a patriotic hero. Now - - let's frog march all of the conspirators.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
caljeepgirl 8/26/2025 5:42:05 PM (No. 1995849)
Yes. We've known all this for a long time. I well remember talk of Mike Rogers early on and have always admired him for his spine.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Gallo3 8/26/2025 6:51:44 PM (No. 1995886)
Sundance's point being that Russiagate is only a distraction as in 'Look A Squirrel!'- to take attention away from Obamagate/Spygate which is the real treason.
All the years of Russiagate and Muellergate hustling was all to conceal the illegal surveillance of opposition political campaigns which was ordered and initiated by President Barack Hussein Obama.
All the rest is a nest of hoaxes designed to hide the truth.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
RedLegLeader68 8/27/2025 6:23:36 AM (No. 1995998)
No. #. "and Logic" certainly goes well with your analysis.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Zigrid 8/27/2025 9:55:54 AM (No. 1996095)
I'm out of my league here....so I leave it to my poster friends to tackle this bit of news....
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Hermoine 8/27/2025 10:49:18 AM (No. 1996116)
Unfortunately, this article is way too "rabbit hole" for me and would be a huge time suck. Selfishly, if anyone with a better operational knowledge of this info could break it down into bit size bullet points, that would be super helpful.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Sully 8/27/2025 1:07:08 PM (No. 1996202)
#s 3 and 4: agreed. What did Rogers go to Trump Towers for, brunch?
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