Ignore the stock market — Wall Street
dealing with painful detox from government
spending addiction
New York Post,
by
Charlie Gasperino
Original Article
Posted By: 4250Luis,
3/11/2025 5:51:12 AM
Wall Street is puking big time, and the sell buttons are working overtime whenever the word “tariff” passes from Donald Trump’s lips. If you listen to the fat cat community long enough, you’d think Trump has been in office four years rather than four weeks, and that a small trade surcharge on a car from Mexico is leading us into economic Armageddon.
I’m no fan of tariffs for lots of reasons, including I hate paying too much for stuff, but I’ve also taken enough econ and studied markets long enough to know that they’re not the end of the world as we know it.
Post Reply
Reminder: “WE ARE A SALON AND NOT A SALOON”
Your thoughts, comments, and ideas are always welcome here. But we ask you to please be mindful and respectful. Threatening or crude language doesn't persuade anybody and makes the conversation less enjoyable for fellow L.Dotters.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
stablemoney 3/11/2025 6:10:55 AM (No. 1912536)
The WSJ is out with rot that this is the Trump recession. What a lie! Any recession will be the Biden recession, which is better than the Biden and Obama bankruptcy they created. Trump's economic policies will work. Trump, an expert at exposing fools, is doing so with all the Wall Street prognosticators and their leftist economists. What will we have to bear next? Paul Krugman?
39 people like this.
Reply 2 - Posted by:
avital2 3/11/2025 6:13:28 AM (No. 1912539)
stay focused - bellweather 10yr Tsy has declined from 4..9% to 4.2 - oil futures from $80 to $67 - these are positives for economy going forward, and also indicate that promises made have become promises kept. in the meantime investors need to adjust portfolios to benefit from a different economic landscape ahead.
30 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 3/11/2025 6:42:34 AM (No. 1912548)
Recessions do not happen overnight. This recession took 4 years (Biden Administration).
37 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
homefry 3/11/2025 7:23:39 AM (No. 1912559)
That market tanked because Trump would not rule out a recession. Why would he? A recession has been predicted now for over a year. I mean it aint like its 2022 and we dont have 2 straight quarters like quid pro joe had, and claimed and was backed by the dim-0 party including their P.R. branch the msm, saying there was no recession.
Trump told the truth. dim-0s dont.
32 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
homefry 3/11/2025 7:25:04 AM (No. 1912561)
I left out, 2 back to back quarters of negative economic growth in 2022 when dim-0s said this isnt a recession.
26 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
czechlist 3/11/2025 8:05:35 AM (No. 1912588)
The left re-defined recession just as they did vaccine.
A market correction has been needed and predicted for years. Investment became speculation as the money supply increased.
22 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 3/11/2025 8:26:08 AM (No. 1912596)
This is comparable to a situation where a person is spending left and right with their credit card. They know full well they don't have the means to make the payment when the bill comes due but they keep telling everyone they are financially fit. That is what happened with the Barack Obama-Joe Biden, Joe Biden-Kamala Harris administrations. They kept spending what we didn't have and the trillions-dollar debt we have in the United States reflects all of it. We now have to reduce and restrict bad financial behaviors. Did anyone expect differently? Four years of the Joe Biden-Kamala Harris and nobody knows who was running the country? You really expected something differently?
21 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
Zigrid 3/11/2025 8:34:19 AM (No. 1912604)
Okay folks...let's settle down...this dip in the market was predicted by President Trump...he said it would be rocky...and all the prognosticators are in free fall...emotionally...looks like nervous Nancy Pelousy is losing some money ...that makes it worth watching...her days as the reigning queen of Washington DC are coming to an end....she looked pathetic at the Union speech by President Trump the other night....
18 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
Venturer 3/11/2025 8:35:43 AM (No. 1912605)
I don't know anything about the market, that is why i haven't got a nickel in it. What I do know is that we cannot go on printing money and spending it like drunken sailors. i don't like what Musk is doing, but it HAS to be done.
Sure it hurts. It is hurting a lot of people, but if we don't stop the spending we are going bankrupt and no one will accept the American dollar.
15 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
Quigley 3/11/2025 9:47:58 AM (No. 1912640)
Biggie Bidet printed money to hire federal workers to do nothing to boost job numbers and to hire illegals to do whatever. Their wages were spent quickly and so puffed up GDP quickly.
In short, he got the nation addicted to crack just like he did to Huncher- for his own purposes in both cases.
Real economic growth takes longer. Printing money and folding it into GDP is not sustainable but it is the Dim way. They call real economic growth "trickle down economics" and insanely believe that the federal government can create growth by spending.
11 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 3/11/2025 11:42:22 AM (No. 1912714)
It may not be wise to ignore it since most retirement portfolios are heavily invested in it. OTOH, I'll panic when broker says panic. The WSJ has become "old yeller." I used to read it religiously back in the days before I found Lucianne.com. She's gone, Rush is gone, and others too numerous to mention (as those old timey death notices used to say.)
6 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
RussZilla 3/11/2025 11:43:26 AM (No. 1912716)
Used to be they could borrow low-interest money to invest and increase their paper fortunes. This led to inflation for us, but their paper money is going upon flames!
5 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
JimBob 3/11/2025 12:00:51 PM (No. 1912727)
Just watching the news and watching the stock market ups-and-downs, I long ago noticed that when there's uncertainty, the market drops. As soon as the uncertainty is resolved -one way or the other- it goes back up.
Remember Lenin's words, that the 'Rats were faithfully carrying out:
"The Surest Way to Attack the Capitalist State is to Debauch the Currency."
The 'Rats and the HairSniffer's handlers were deliberately heading the US for national bankruptcy, while they were shoveling the Taxpayer's wealth into their own pockets as fast and for as long as they could.
Now that some responsible people are in charge, the direction is changing..... and things are uncertain, at least for a while. So, 'the market' prices drop, but in the longer term, hopefully Trump and his team can avert the national bankruptcy that the 'Rats had us headed for, and can avert the long-term financial chaos that such a bankruptcy would cause.
3 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 3/11/2025 12:20:38 PM (No. 1912738)
It's now come to the bitter point that we stop spending money we don't have, or the country will be bankrupt and the '29 depression will not look so bad in retrospect. Printing money has caused the ongoing inflation that has hurt millions of people in the lower and middle class, especially. That increase in prices that the media is carping about now is never mentioned the Biden's ramping up costs for everyone. I don't blame it all on shamblin' Joe. That autopen was working overtime while he napped.
4 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
chumley 3/11/2025 1:11:24 PM (No. 1912762)
All I know is nobody released the Epstein files, nobody involved with the fake Russia dossier has been arrested, the JFK files have not been released, not have the Seth Rich files. Now my retirement money has lost a pretty fair chunk and all we have to show for it is more money given to Israel.
I'm starting to think we've been snookered again.
1 person likes this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
DanvilleBill 3/11/2025 8:14:37 PM (No. 1912904)
Since 1/20/2025 thru today, 3/11/2025:
The Dow is down 4.7%
The S&P is down 7%
The Nasdaq is down 11%
These indicators reflect Trump's stupid tariffs and the new tariffs that are being put on our exported goods and services in retribution. As mentioned above, many of us have pensions that are chock full of equities that make up those indices. As LDotters, along with the broader MAGA collective, refuse to assign any blame for the market's current nose dive to Trump's tariffs today, I wonder if their blind obeisance to anything Trump does will remain if the stock market continues to drop? Like maybe 6 months from now.
For my own benefit, as well as millions of others, I hope the market will not continue to fall
as it heads into correction territory. What can be done to undo what has been done by Trump's tariffs remains a mystery to me.
But this country has a bigger problem than today's equities market.
The national debt, if not fixed by our government, will ultimately destroy America. And probably a large part of the rest of the world. I wonder what our good citizens would like living in stone age conditions. That's what we'll have.
I'm counting on Trump to go to work on at least starting a turnaround on this pending apocalypse. I think he is heading in the right direction with the DOGE work he has set in motion. Keep it up Mr. President.
4 people like this.
Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "4250Luis"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)