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Posted By: Moritz55, 11/22/2023 3:39:09 AM

On Nov. 22, 1963, we lost not only a popular young president, but we also lost our national innocence. We lost our trust in government. Once lost, it has not returned and never will. The rifle shots fired at the president’s motorcade changed my own life as I watched TV coverage of my bloodied "friend" Lee Harvey Oswald dragged into the Dallas Police Station. When the Secret Service knocked on my door the morning after the assassination, they came for me as someone identified as a "known associate" of the presumed JFK assassin. My involvement with Lee and Marina Oswald began in June 1962.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: gwholmessr 11/22/2023 6:39:03 AM (No. 1602975)
How did Oswald know to take a job at the book depository? How did he know the route that the President would take? I’m just asking because a citizen wouldn’t know that in advance to put a plan together such as an assignation. Johnson wanted to be President is all I’m saying
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 11/22/2023 6:39:57 AM (No. 1602976)
I learned a lot more about Oswald's CIA connections in the books "Dr. Mary's Monkey" and "Me and Lee"!!!!!!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/22/2023 6:40:22 AM (No. 1602977)
I will point out to the Author, the the route of the cavalcade did not originally go past the book depository. It was a last minute change for "security" reasons. Having an assassin in place, then moving the target to the assassin is the very definition of a conspiracy. JFK did not want involvement in Vietnam. He despised LBJ. He was planning on dropping him from the ticket. The CIA and the Military Industrial Complex wanted Vietnam and LBJ was their instrument. They wanted to test their new toys on the battlefield, and were concerned that rising unemployment might make the democrats too unpopular at home. JFK had to go before he made his re-election plans public. Lack of outcry: my own father told my mother to be silent about what she knew because the unrest caused by such news would give Russia the opportunity to attack us with Nuclear weapons. Recall that school kids were regularly have nuke drills where they huddled under their desks for five or ten minutes when an alarm sounded. The media has been an arm of the Democrats since WWII. Any conspiracy evidence brought to them would result in "accidents" and no story, for lack of evidence. Small local papers would be denounced as "subversive" and a few would have unfortunate things happen to them, which would be used to make others shut up. Even today, with the internet, the conspiracy theories are out there, but get little traction due to pushback from "legitimate" sources. Actual evidenced crimes - Hillary's top secret emails and Biden's decades long hoarding of sensitive documents are swept aside, unpunished. I get the impression the author is a useful idiot. He would have done better not to speak at all.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: gwholmessr 11/22/2023 6:42:40 AM (No. 1602979)
It was Trumps fault.. lol
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Reply 5 - Posted by: homefry 11/22/2023 7:22:59 AM (No. 1602990)
They killed the wrong kennedy.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Strike3 11/22/2023 7:50:10 AM (No. 1603021)
John Kennedy was a darling of the people but not so popular with the US Government. His daily drug use, dalliances with the ladies and associations with hollywood figures and the mafia were frowned upon and a burden on the Secret Service. Oswald may have been a failure in life but he was not a total incompetent or a dummy. He was a devout marxist who had been to both Russia and Cuba and obviously had strong emotions guiding him. Any interaction with the CIA would have been a highly classified matter. A cheap rifle can kill as well as an expensive model at the relatively short distance. Kennedy was not "well-guarded" he was recklessly riding in an open-topped car so he could be seen and adored by the masses. There was no conspiracy but that did not change the background that JFK was disliked by many people. The government, however, may have been involved in the murder of Jack Ruby as a pre-emptive cover-up, we will never know. JFK's New England arrogance and "charm" would have clashed violently with the Texas lack of sophistication of LBJ but the pairing drew in millions of votes from both ends of the country so it was a wise combination for the election. JFK's assassination was nothing more than a Secret Service failure but he made it very difficult for them to do a proper job.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: spacer 11/22/2023 8:13:04 AM (No. 1603038)
Just a couple of things. Popular Kennedy was behind Goldwater in the months before his assassination. His presidency was in shambles with his bungling of the Bay of pigs and Khrushchev's mocking him over the "missile crisis" . His whoring around with known prostitutes IN the Whitehouse was making low rumblings throughout the press. Years after Kennedys death Hugh Sidey wrote about one such event while talking to the young "popular president pool side in the Whitehouse. After a little back and forth a door at the far end of the pool opened and two young pretty women stepped toward the pool dropped their robes and jumped into the pool naked. At that Kennedy cut short their talk stood up dropped his robe and joined the two prostitutes naked. Sidey's only remark was how stunned he was about the president physical appearance he looked like a frail 13 year old boy. As far as conspiracies go I remember hearing the crack pot Jesse Ventura opining about the ability of a mere sharpshooter , not expert, moron like Oswald could get off three crack shots with a cheap bolt action rifle shooting down ward at a target moving away from him. That said interesting read.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Vitaman 11/22/2023 8:23:11 AM (No. 1603045)
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
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Reply 9 - Posted by: seamusm 11/22/2023 8:27:13 AM (No. 1603049)
I tend to favor actual witnesses not 'story-tellers'. That said, this author's first-hand knowledge of Oswald himself is important but unconvincing. On the contrary, the doctors who saw JFK's body at Parkland describe wounds utterly inconsistent with the 'lone gunman' theory - I am inclined to believe them. What I do not completely get is why no insider has ever come forth to put the lie to the Warren Report- they'd stand to make millions and forever fame.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: southernboy 11/22/2023 8:33:04 AM (No. 1603054)
A belated attempt to tamp down the witnesses coming forth the last few days whose testimonies blow the "single gunman" theory out of the water.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Adam 11/22/2023 8:37:52 AM (No. 1603056)
It's a myth that the motorcade route was changed. That said, the timeline of how the motorcade route was decided on is a valuable thing to discuss. While a trip to Texas in November had been in the works since May, little had been decided about the itinerary of the trip. On October 16, 1963, when Oswald was hired to work at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD), no motorcade route had been determined. The reason no motorcade route had been determined was the destination of the luncheon, where the President would make a speech, had yet to be determined. Governor Connally of Texas was pushing for the Woman's Center. Ken O'Donnell, on the White House side, was pushing for the Trade Mart. On November 14, 1963, they agreed to having the speech and the luncheon at the Trade Mart. Only then, and not before, had the motorcade route even been discussed. Since the Trade Mart and the Woman's Center are on different sides of Dallas, the route would have been entirely different had the Woman's Center been used. Why does this matter? Because it means Oswald was not a "patsy:" the conspirators couldn't possibly have known to put Oswald in the line of fire at the TSBD as early as October 16 when no one -- and I do mean literally "no one" in the world -- knew Kennedy would pass by the TSBD back on October 16, when Oswald was hired. Of course, Oswald didn't know either but then Oswald's original target wasn't Kennedy anyway: it was General Walker. But Oswald failed in his attempt to kill Walker. So he was left with a high powered rifle and no target. When the motorcade was announced and Oswald realized JFK would pass right by his job site, it became a crime of opportunity. All the information regarding the itinerary of the Texas trip is accessible to the public in the National Archives.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NHGuy 11/22/2023 8:52:55 AM (No. 1603065)
Good job #11.... facts are stubborn things, especially when you go up against the ones who ask all the questions without seeking the true answers. The fact is Oswald did it. My belief is that the CIA and others are holding back files not because they were part of a conspiracy, but because they screwed up in not following or arresting Oswald prior to 11/22/63. Releasing those files would be an embarrassment, and all bureaucracies fear embarrassment most of all.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Muguy 11/22/2023 10:09:11 AM (No. 1603100)
The government cover up continues. Usually, articles like this appear for several months preceding each anniversary of 11/22/63, all claiming that Oswald did it alone with no others involved. The evidence of the media’s complicit “Mockingbird” collusion is almost silent this year. The evidence has been out there for 60 years that the story we’ve been told is not true but anyone who would say otherwise is beat down as a kook of conspiracy theorist, or the new term in the lexicon a”denier”. The Physicians who worked on the President in Trauma Room One at Parkland hospital in Dallas NEVER changed their assessment of the body they saw that day. If you look in the appendix if the Warren Report, you can read for yourself what they said. Deputy Press Secretary Malcolm Killduff said at the press conference that it was a shot to the head pointing to the temple over the right eye near the hairline and he used his index finger to show where the fatal shot entered the head. Not only that, over 30 doctors and nurses were eye witnesses to a large open wound in the back of JFK’s head! Ballistics tell us entry wounds are small, exit wounds are large. That means the fatal shot did not come from the 6th floor of the TSBD. The evidence is out there— google it. The one man did it scenario has never been tenable, and the documents withheld by the Vegetable’s dereliction of duty covers up what probably leads to fill in the blanks.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 11/22/2023 10:53:22 AM (No. 1603131)
I hate to throw cold water on this but the fact is JFK was not all that popular at the time of his assassination. The civil rights pot was boiling over and many blamed JFK and Bobby for stirring that pot. After the assassination of course the story of "Camelot" was written and carefully projected by Jackie and the rest of the Kennedy clan along with the democrat party who, for the most part, couldn't stand the young attractive President and the rest of the family who they thought of as outsiders to the true blue collar democrats who were in control. The Union thugs who got JFK elected working with his father were happy to be rid of him and his brother who had a particular animus towards Jimmy Hoffa and the thugs he ran. So rewrites of history are just great and the fact is no one wants to think that a lone wolf like Oswald could turn the world upside down, but more likely than not he did. The book "Case Closed" is probably the best and most accurate book on the subject written by James Posner.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Kate318 11/22/2023 11:13:34 AM (No. 1603148)
A long-winded article that offers nothing new, except maybe Oswald was a lone gunman or maybe it was a conspiracy. It is Fox News, after all. There will be no stories that promote “conspiracy theories” against the government. The posters in the comments section after the article aren ‘t buying the story either.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: nelsonted1 11/22/2023 11:14:11 AM (No. 1603151)
My only comment is the chance of shooting down hill at a head moving forward is very difficult. The problem is shooting downhill since most shots go high. Add the size of a moving head and you have an almost miracle and then doing it again. The first shot exited his throat from behind. He had to have been rocking and twisting after the first shot then he gets hit again in the head. Shooting downhill three times at a target moving forward at an angle hitting Kennedy in neck then head. Not impossible because it was done and with range from 175 ft to 265 ft. I am not getting into the rifle, scope and ammo used just the shooting. And wouldn't most people have nervous jumping ahead of the shooting and not take a second after the first shot to stare at the. unbelievable first shot or at least the second? I'm a shooter and really doubt all these things come together into all this. Of course, everyone is different but not taking a moment to just watch the chaos after obvious success before taking the second or third. What I'm suggesting is it would take a phenomenal shooter with inhuman nerves of steel to hold himself together. There is a big caviat here: I'm imagining putting myself in Oswald's shoes and that is nearly always a fools errand.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: cold porridge 11/22/2023 12:04:44 PM (No. 1603172)
This article sounds like it was written by the CIA to try to displace blame of their involvement. " If there were indeed a conspiracy, it is remarkable that the silence of conspirators (and their children and grandchildren) remains unbroken over six decades. " No, it is not remarkable, many many were silenced and disappeared shortly after the assassination, people that could speak up. I was 13 at the time, but I remember thinking at the time that we would never know for at least 70 years who fired the fatal shot. It now looks like we will never know. I do know a few things, Johnson hated the Kennedys and Johnson was facing a court case in a few months that could finish his career. Many in the CIA and FBI were vehemently against Kennedy since Kennedy said he wanted to destroy them.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: buckeye1 11/22/2023 2:35:12 PM (No. 1603225)
For the length of this man's argument he has a weak case to say that Oswald acted alone in the Kennedy assassination.
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