Oops: FAA Admits ‘Unintentionally Deleted
Files’ Caused Jan 11 Mass System Failure,
Nationwide Flight Chaos
Breitbart Politics,
by
Simon Kent
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
1/20/2023 10:10:30 AM
A red faced U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) admitted Thursday its staff “unintentionally deleted files” in a key computer system causing the January 11 commercial airline ground stop, which affected more than 11,000 flights and caused mayhem for travelers.
Reuters reports the FAA said the human error occurred while personnel were working “to correct synchronisation between the live primary database and a backup database”, and it had “so far found no evidence of a cyber attack or malicious intent.”
The system outage occurred on January 10, but the ground stop was not issued until the following morning by which time countless flights were already being grounded
Reply 1 - Posted by:
thomthomp 1/20/2023 10:29:06 AM (No. 1383156)
Sadly, we have reached a point where I question any explanation coming from any government agency. There have just been too many lies and cover ups. But if this one is true, it seems to me that as the new generations, brought up with the "everybody gets a medal" philosophy, take over running our systems incompetence seems to follow them. I did not sees in the article where anyone was fired or disciplined for this grievous error or any supervisors relieved of their position.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Kate318 1/20/2023 10:49:01 AM (No. 1383177)
BS. They intentionally stopped those flights. For what purpose, I do not know, although I have my suspicions.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Speedy2 1/20/2023 10:59:54 AM (No. 1383184)
Leave it to the FAA to screw things up. Incompetent government employees.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
LeeBertie 1/20/2023 11:06:10 AM (No. 1383194)
Sigh
Why is it I do not believe anything, electronic or hardcopy, is ever deleted "unintentionally" by any government agency?
(Yes, I actually do know why.)
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
LesUNo 1/20/2023 11:20:34 AM (No. 1383214)
Inefficiency is running rampant in this country. I am seeing it everywhere I turn and have learned to trust nothing.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
thekidsmom66 1/20/2023 11:20:47 AM (No. 1383215)
I don't think they intentionally stopped the flights; rather, it is an outdated system, which Mayor Pete acknowledged way before the holidays, but did nothing to rectify, as he was too busy flying hubby around on taxpayer funded planes. So, the "unnamed" staff member is being blamed to cover Pete's extremely unqualified and incompetent backside.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Rubinski 1/20/2023 11:45:26 AM (No. 1383238)
There’s a theory floating around that the system was hacked and that the government paid off the hackers in Bitcoin. The same thing happened in Canada a few days later and in the Philippines. Additionally, Bitcoin went just like it would if the government had made a large Bitcoin purchase.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
davew 1/20/2023 11:47:00 AM (No. 1383240)
There are usually redundant backup systems that are used to capture "commits" from the active database during operations. These are sometimes delayed by an hour or so to prevent any catastrophic logic errors detected in the primary system from propagating to the backups and crashing them. Most of this is automated but if there is a problem with the network or security credentials between the clustered systems its possible that the backup system did not receive updates and was out-of-sync.
If the administrators switched from the active to the backup at some scheduled time and rebuilt the active files by first recovering the disk space, the most recent commits would not have been propagated to the backup. In a safety critical system like the NOTAMS this would cause a loss of integrity in the information and force a rebuild from log files or other pre-database sources.
Most organizations that deal with these types of critical failures have well established checkpoint procedures that make this type of catastrophic failure very unlikely. When they happen it takes time to rebuild a system from scratch and, in the case of filed flightplans being dependent on a single point of failure, prevents the release of aircraft for flights thus grounding of the entire fleet.
A more distributed, redundant system would have avoid this single point of failure (as is done in the commercial world) but the government is all about central control.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 1/20/2023 11:47:18 AM (No. 1383243)
"I'm from the government, I'm here to help" terrifying words.
Probably an affirmative action hire who is totally incompetent, but cannot be demoted or fired.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
nwcudagal 1/20/2023 11:47:37 AM (No. 1383244)
More dire consequences ahead as long as people are hired for the boxes they check and not their knowledge.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
chance_232 1/20/2023 11:57:17 AM (No. 1383264)
Accidentally deleted the files, like the democrats accidentally released all of those names or Joe Accidentally filed top secret documents in the garage.
Those files were intentionality deleted.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Californian 1/20/2023 12:01:27 PM (No. 1383271)
I'm with 8 on this.
These systems are not bullet proof although for the money spent on them they should be but the government isn't hiring the best people. They won't work for the government for any price.
Given 2 options: someone screwed up the backups vs a conspiracy to prevent flights for a few hours.... I've seen plenty of backups screwed up over the years. Or backups not even running and the person or team responsible ignoring it. It happens in the real world everyday. Bad backups or no backups is why all these companies and small cities hurt so bad when there's a ransoms] ware attack. They should be able to just restore from last backup and go on but can't.
Vs "the government needed to shut down all flights because uh... stuff! Yeah!"
I'm going with human error.
And why did no one get fired? It's the government.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
planetgeo 1/20/2023 12:12:11 PM (No. 1383283)
"Unintentionally deleted files"? By any chance was the contractor named "Clinton Solutions, Inc.?"
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
billsv 1/20/2023 1:23:37 PM (No. 1383345)
I really don’t this is what happened. The same thing happened in Canada and the Philippines that are totally separate and disconnected systems. Crypto currencies rose dramatically immediately afterwards. All signs of a hack that were paid off with crypto currency to get the systems back online. The FAA appears to be lying to the Ametican people
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
danu 1/20/2023 1:34:20 PM (No. 1383350)
kkklntoon deja vu? seems there was recent news that similar happened--
...in the phillippines.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
caljeepgirl 1/20/2023 1:49:45 PM (No. 1383366)
I 'heard' somewhere the 'mistake' was caused by contractor personnel; totally believable in a typical IT environment.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Felixed 1/20/2023 1:57:11 PM (No. 1383372)
A "good" theory is one that encompasses the fruits of "pattern recognition".
I believe we saw a pattern of near-simultaneous outages in America, Canada and the Philippines. With the price of Bitcoins spiking soon after.
Have at it, "conspiracy theorists" - why believe whatever your government tells you when critical thinking invites a play day?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
thefield 1/20/2023 2:09:05 PM (No. 1383381)
The government has in its employ the best code crakers, the best private code crackers in the us and the world at its beck and call and they can't stop hackers?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/20/2023 2:40:09 PM (No. 1383403)
How do you know it was really unintentional?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Californian 1/20/2023 3:04:56 PM (No. 1383416)
19, because I've paid people a lot more than their government contractor who have a lot more experience than their government contractor who still occasionally broke stuff.
Occam's Razor applies here.
Bitcoin went up because the whales are doing their yearly wash. Ethereum has a new NFT scam going with bored ape video games. We don't need complex and open ended conspiracy theories that make no sense to figure out someone made a mistake at a keyboard. The only surprise is things run as well as they do, considering who is running them. Breaks and outages should be way more common than they are.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 1/20/2023 3:42:15 PM (No. 1383430)
Democrats will do anything to create chaos. Expect more of this.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
joew9 1/20/2023 6:32:42 PM (No. 1383524)
Every time Windows does an update to my computer some function stops working for good.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 1/20/2023 7:29:24 PM (No. 1383561)
They keep telling me it's raining and all I feel is p iss down my back.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/20/2023 8:58:13 PM (No. 1383605)
What we had here was the full dress rehearsal for next time.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Thos Weatherby 1/20/2023 11:29:25 PM (No. 1383668)
Was this a test to use at a future time? A Democrat future Red Flag.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
cat2 1/21/2023 5:57:32 AM (No. 1383715)
“so far found no evidence of a cyber attack or malicious intent.” How about: stoned on legalized marijuana?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Msquared112 1/21/2023 6:38:15 AM (No. 1383728)
There are no failsafes for this kind of massive security problems?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
petrichor 1/21/2023 7:04:16 AM (No. 1383742)
"Accenture has been awarded a 16-month, $3.4M contract to supply the Department of Transportation's Federal Aviation Administration with Financial Management and Information Technology Migration Support"
Maybe one of those interns that Accenture passes off as experienced.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Midwest Mom 1/21/2023 7:47:07 AM (No. 1383771)
Exactly poster #1
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 1/21/2023 8:06:58 AM (No. 1383782)
In re #7, that is interesting information. I checked the investment app I subscribe to for tracking my investments and doing my trades, and lo and behold bitcoin jumped bigly (north of 30 percent) on January 11th, the same day that the air traffic control system went down. Coincidence? Or not?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
pensom2 1/21/2023 9:17:11 AM (No. 1383847)
Thank you, #8 and #12. Your comments are obviously learned and insightful. I'm persuaded. There are plenty of credible conspiracies coming out of this administration, but plain incompetence best explains this failure.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
janjan 1/21/2023 9:56:49 AM (No. 1383909)
After a 37 year career working in IT I can tell you without doubt that blaming IT is a reliable thing because people don’t know any better and easily believe it. If files can be deleted by humans that will take the whole system down they either have some serious security issues or they are lying.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
MickTurn 1/21/2023 10:46:07 AM (No. 1383999)
Civil Service, where only the incompetent survive!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Zigrid 1/21/2023 11:13:53 AM (No. 1384033)
When you put people in charge of a mass aviation system...it helps if they are qualified...not just the right skin color and confused gender status ....and that goes for the transportation secretary who flew to Portugal with is partner while Americans suffered in airports across the country....of course on a private jet....
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
BigTimeTrumper 1/21/2023 11:59:53 AM (No. 1384065)
Never Fear Pete Buti-Buddy is on top of and all over it....
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
NotaBene 1/21/2023 12:08:59 PM (No. 1384073)
I too would blame affirmative action first.
The efforts to control US people went from Global Warming to financial institutions in 2008 to a lab virus in 2019 to mRNA vaccinations in 2011. Archbishop Viganò predicts that cyber will be the next push for controlling individual freedom world-wide.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Speedypetey 1/21/2023 2:10:32 PM (No. 1384125)
So the FAA is turning into NASA not managed by experience and technical degrees. They need to subcontract all their tech because liberal arts and gender studies hires are going to get people killed.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 1/21/2023 7:21:57 PM (No. 1384253)
Ooooppppsss!!! Accidentally on purpose I’m sure. You want some kid on a computer thinking he’s a certified Microsoft Computer engineer and cyber master doing a disk cleanup and hard drive maintenance. The effects were the objective. Who was affected financially? Stock prices go down? This has to be an event where those in the know made a lot of money on a short stock airline deal. Could be a Paul Pelosi or Hunter inside job.
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