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Why We Will Never Control Medical Costs

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Posted By: Judy W., 10/3/2022 6:05:47 AM

The purposes of medicine are expanding rapidly beyond treating actual illnesses/injuries and promoting wellness, to also facilitating life fulfillment and making personal dreams come true. Latest case in point: A gay couple has filed a class-action complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) against the City of New York, suing for unlawful workplace discrimination because they were denied coverage for fertility services. If successful, health insurance nationally may eventually be required to pay for IVF/surrogacy services for male gay couples. From the Guardian story: (Snip) But the couple, both being male, cannot have children together. Hence, the litigation.

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So if male couples become entitled to surrogate babies, will women be forced to carry their babies so that the mens's dreams can be fulfilled? Why don't these buffoons adopt some kids? I'm sure it's legal in New York.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rich323 10/3/2022 7:13:02 AM (No. 1294048)
President Trump was heading towards historic advances in medical charges and insurance practices. Insulin was going to be totally free in his second term. Insurance across state lines to make competition, hospitals required to list prices etc. Once Covid hit, big Pharma tied to the FDA as we now know followed by Biden’s reversals, set us back to the Obama years whose goal is still single payer that would be controlled completely by the government.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Krause 10/3/2022 7:13:44 AM (No. 1294050)
One of these guys is going to have to grow some eggs.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Strike3 10/3/2022 7:24:33 AM (No. 1294057)
Surely one of the two poofsters can get pregnant or are they calling Doctor Khumar a liar?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 10/3/2022 7:30:59 AM (No. 1294061)
Because big pharma purchased congress, CDC, FDA and doctors.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: jinx 10/3/2022 8:03:25 AM (No. 1294084)
First of all, force the President and all members of Congress to use Obamacare. Then you will see a fast exit from government owned medical care. Obama and the insurance companies ruined our good medical care.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: homefry 10/3/2022 8:21:59 AM (No. 1294099)
I am old enough to remember when almost no one had health insurance, if you got sick you paid the doctor. THEN came medicare. No longer did the patient foot the bill, so now the patient didnt care what it cost and prices soared.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: seamusm 10/3/2022 8:50:54 AM (No. 1294124)
The author points to the recent phenomena of using the courts to expand definitions and coverage. But as a physician I have witnessed unrelated costs/charges due to totally unrealistic consumer expectations and medical systems now led by business-types who think of medicine as medical care as Neiman Marcus profit centers.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDConservative 10/3/2022 9:07:55 AM (No. 1294134)
What's with controlling prices in a "free" market economy, whether medical or anything else? Medical costs spiral because they can, with very little actual public effect. Most folks are covered to some extent by insurance. They have no idea what the prices of services are. They go to the doc or hospital and hand over a co-pay that is a fraction of the negotiated "special" price charged that company's clients. And those with the ability to pay cough up the extra needed to cover the Medicare/Medicaid bunch. The market is kept from being competitive by a number of government interventions, even down to whether this or that piece of equipment can be installed. The fear is that prices will be driven down...and that's not the plan. Toss in the small sizes of medical school classes as another way to manipulate the market. There are also plenty of foreign immigrant docs yearning to be free out there. And here we are still looking for more ways to have government manage our lives and our economy...we're all socialists now.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rinktum 10/3/2022 9:28:49 AM (No. 1294155)
#1, I heartily agree with you as do most Americans with a smidgeon of common sense. However, our vaunted political class has a different interest and that is to keep their gravy train rolling. Government is not our friend. It may be helpful at times but we pay an extremely high price for very little. #5, I like the way you think. No legislature should ever be able to pass a bill into law that excludes them. They must be made to live by the laws they set up for the rest of us. When you get down to the nitty gritty, we have a raging class war in this country. It really doesn’t matter what your skin color is or what political party you identify with, all that matters is the numbers in your bank accounts. It’s always about the money. These people can overlook anything, crime, debauchery, even sexual abuse of children and sex trafficking, but the thing they all recoil from is the great unwashed masses. We turn their stomachs with our love of God, family, faith, and country.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: zoidberg 10/3/2022 11:01:52 AM (No. 1294242)
Be fruitful and multiply. Be fruity and don't.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: paral04 10/3/2022 1:23:34 PM (No. 1294343)
This would be a good decision for King Solomon to make. He would say, "When one of you get a uterus and breasts, we will see about paying for your fertility services".
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Reply 12 - Posted by: red1066 10/3/2022 1:23:41 PM (No. 1294344)
Almost everything around the medical industry is guided by insurance. Medical companies create new products and don't create new products based on years of testing and the chance that huge lawsuits could be brought against said company when something goes wrong. Hospitals allow such products to be used in the hospital and doctors use these medical products based on the same thing. Malpractice insurance costs are enormous not only for doctors, but for the hospitals as well. Every item in a hospital and every item a doctor uses is reviewed from the perspective of malpractice insurance costs. If a doctor wants to use a new device in surgery, it has to be reviewed by the legal department and approved for use in that hospital. It's a long process that takes time and money.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: columba 10/3/2022 2:41:52 PM (No. 1294390)
I ran across a medical recipt this week. It shows that my father and mother paid $8 for my mother to spend a day in the hospital in Vista, Calif after my birth.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: stablemoney 10/3/2022 3:25:35 PM (No. 1294418)
The medical system has been a fraud every since the government to it over.
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