Will this really be a long war?
Hot Air,
by
Allahpundit
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
3/3/2022 12:08:03 AM
I have no doubt that both sides are willing to make it a long war. Zelensky and his people have proved they’re willing to die for their freedom. Putin has gambled his legacy on subjugating Ukraine. Neither will blink. Which has the makings of a very long war indeed:
Given the durability of the Ukrainian resistance and its long history of pushing Russia back, the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war. The U.K. foreign secretary estimated it would be a 10-year war. Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years — and that ultimately,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
SALady 3/3/2022 12:54:38 AM (No. 1088208)
No, with modern weaponry and technology and overwhelming manpower, and as evil as Putin is, this will be over in a matter of weeks. At least as far as Russia controlling the country and establishing their puppet government.
Ukrainians will keep fighting long after that, but it will be guerrilla tactics -- not war between two armies. This article even states that, so the headline is misleading.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
dickiedeeb 3/3/2022 12:55:37 AM (No. 1088209)
Move over Pfizer you had your time at the trough we re War Inc and the cattle pay for us its american tradition
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
swarfer 3/3/2022 1:08:16 AM (No. 1088215)
The great tragedy is that this conflict was completely avoidable. It was all about NATO membership. Russia's redline was rejected outright by NATO leadership, Biden publicly offered membership and never rejected by Zelensky trying to leave his options open. Ukrainian neutrality would have given them prosperity by generous access to both east and west. Total diplomatic failure. Arrogant NATO globalists have no grasp of geopolitical reality dwelling in a Eurocentric twilight zone. Biden is an incompetent political bottom feeder pretending to be a president. Zelinsky for all his admirable attributes is an amateur politician and was thrown under the bus by those who have no admirable attributes.
Ukraine cannot eject Russia and Russia will not accept NATO on its boarders. Russia has been isolated from the West. Pundits believe this will believe this will bring Russia to its knees, but it's hard to imagine this was not anticipated. Russia will take over all investments abandoned due to sanctions and will continue to trade with the most important country in the world, China. Ukraine is ultimately irrelevant to China other than how it can benefit from it financially and geopolitically.
Russia is a fountain of raw materials, oil, gas, coal, lumber, strategic materials such titanium, nickel, lithium which it can exchange for manufactured goods and technology. Russia boarders China so air, land and sea transportation routes are unaffected by any sanctions. Russia and China share a common adversary. China will pretend to be aloof for appearances, even joining condemnation as appropriate, all the while studying the sanction strategies and their effectiveness while feeding any useful intelligence to Russia and covertly assisting them in devising ways to evade sanctions for mutual benefit.
How long will it last? It will last as long as it takes for Russia to achieve its objectives. The alternative is to be a vassal of NATO which is unimaginable probably to almost everyone.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
smokincol 3/3/2022 1:30:05 AM (No. 1088227)
it doesn't benefit an occupying force when the populace is politically and domestically against it and that is what we have in Ukraine but, in order for a the populace to maintain a military campaign against the occupying force, it must have to be continually reinforced and supplied, the Ukrainians do not have that within the next 3 years from the United States even if there is a Republican House and Senate, diapers is still the Commander in Chief and his base will not allow the continued resupply of the Ukrainians beyond the next 3 months, if they're lucky. the fervor will wain and this will end up being another guerilla campaign but Ukraine is not Afghanistan for Vietnam where the populace can easily hide from the occupying forces, the best thing that could happen is for the Soviet Russian forces to refuse to fight thereby reducing their effectiveness and essentially aiding the Ukrainians ...and... if Vlad the Imposer can maintain his vicelike grip on the situation - very, very complicated and in the meantime many civilians will die just like an any guerilla force campaign
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 3/3/2022 3:17:17 AM (No. 1088243)
Putin will have effective control of the country within a couple of months. Then the situation will become more like Britain fighting the IRA than the US fighting in Afghanistan. That could, indeed, drag on a long time.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NullUnit60 3/3/2022 3:37:33 AM (No. 1088246)
What Allahpundit posts is unimportant and I do not read the words of a leftist shill suffering from terminal TDS.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
NotaBene 3/3/2022 3:54:07 AM (No. 1088249)
Please someone look at a map. Just a bit North was the siege of Leningrad, now named St. Petersburg, where German and Finland soldiers starved 2,000,000 Russians. On the East, Stalingrad by the Volga stopped Germany at the cost of 2,000,000 fighting men. How dare the American NWO Globalistas morons think Russia will concede our medal-covered Deep State CRT inverts their own sovereign interests as a Nation State? If our Army is sent in, prepare to die.
Let the EU and UN defend themselves. They are delinquent in their payments and are yellowbellies now.
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Ukraine is more oppressive than Russia. (don't tell the press). Russia doesn't want another prospective NATO member as a neighbor. (don't tell the press). Ukraine is more corrupt than Russia (don't tell the press).
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 3/3/2022 6:37:06 AM (No. 1088285)
If Vlad goes nuclear it may not be a long war......but it will be the last one.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
chillijilli 3/3/2022 9:11:47 AM (No. 1088426)
Look at how easily manipulated we are. Sheesh. Covid, masks, social distancing, etc have just disappeared overnight---POOF!---after 2 YEARS of solitary confinement and lockdowns. Ukraine and Russia now are the sole focus of the latest media frenzy.
So how long will this Russian conflict last? My guess is it'll last until our government decides to use the sycophant media to whip up hysteria about some other crisis.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 3/3/2022 10:51:26 AM (No. 1088580)
I read about the war or invasion and view the news that reports on it daily then I embarrassly return to hear our stupid woke government with the military. We could never do what the Ukrainians are doing. If Putin accomplishes his goal, he will rule over a burned-out ash pit. Putin will never outlast the people who will forever reject him and his occupying government. It will be a hollow victory for the evil dictator this is Putin's legacy. FVP
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