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Why Afghanistan has Crumbled

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Posted By: Ruhn, 7/25/2021 10:48:44 AM

Much like Iraq in 2011, the departure of the U.S. military from Afghanistan has created a security vacuum causing the situation in the country to deteriorate at an alarming rate. Emboldened by the U.S. military withdrawal, the Taliban have captured over 120 of Afghanistan’s 387 districts. (snip) Such a massive loss of territory to the Taliban in just sixty days of fighting is sending shockwaves around the world and is reminiscent of the dreadful chaos created by the Islamic State in the Iraq region in 2011 after President Barack Obama withdrew U.S. troops from that country.


A few observations: apples and oranges in comparing the current situation in Afghanistan now with the US withdrawal from Iraq in 2011. Unlike Afghanistan now, the Iraqi regime did not capitulate—although it was close. That required massive intervention via Operation INHERENT RESOLVE that continues to this day. Also Afghanistan is, and always has been, a tribal society with superficial nationalism based on political boundaries largely drawn up by European powers (i.e. the Durand Line). The closest recent National unifier could have been Massoud of the erstwhile Northern Alliance. But AQ snuffed him out on September 10th, 2001.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: TJ54 7/25/2021 10:56:17 AM (No. 856430)
So sad, too bad. The US would have had to stay forever in that hellhole. No thanks
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MDConservative 7/25/2021 11:12:21 AM (No. 856447)
It is what it is...after 20 years, thank God and Greyhound we're gone.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: HPmatt 7/25/2021 11:15:09 AM (No. 856451)
SHAME ON OUR MILITARY LEADERS, AND POLITICIANS, who spent thousands of AMERICAN LIVES and treasure, to support this puppet farce. They wd never be able to reach ‘independence’, and these fools legit going - FOREVER…. They s/b put in prison for this QUAGMIRE….right along Kennedy in Hell.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Maggie2u 7/25/2021 11:15:49 AM (No. 856452)
One of our mistakes was in not arming and training Afghan women how to fight. The Taliban might not be so eager to murder women in soccer stadiums if they can shoot back.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 7/25/2021 11:21:13 AM (No. 856457)
Afghanistan isn't a place, it's a nightmare with no waking.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: ThreeBadCats3 7/25/2021 11:22:12 AM (No. 856459)
Who understands the motives or goals of dictators and rulers. They may feel good about themselves, gain wealth or “power”, but I’ll wager don’t live any longer, healthier or have more pleasure. Their victims may suffer, and we sympathize, but in the long run, who cares. It is still ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: virbots 7/25/2021 11:27:07 AM (No. 856463)
Withdraw quickly, Taliban takes over quickly. Withdraw slowly, they take over slowly. Either way, Taliban takes over. So might as well get it over with.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Come And Take It 7/25/2021 11:27:19 AM (No. 856464)
Because it's filled with 7th Century barbarians who worship a death cult. Trying to civilize these places is a total waste of blood and treasure, and its time we stop trying. Let the Chinese have their turn at it - they will fail as all have before them. Let's see how much stomach they have for the Graveyard of Empire.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Maggie2u 7/25/2021 11:37:40 AM (No. 856477)
Poster #8, in the last 70 years the Chinese Communist Party has killed 60 million of their own people. I don't think they would hesitate one second to kill millions of Afghani's if they get in their way. The Western governments will sit back and let them do it, look how they let the Chinese unleash an epidemic that has killed millions worldwide and so far, hardly a harsh word of criticism.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird 7/25/2021 11:45:39 AM (No. 856490)
A backward tribal country, lost in centuries past. I have thought that it should be nuked and made into a huge flat sports field - soccer?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Come And Take It 7/25/2021 11:54:56 AM (No. 856504)
#9 - So? Let them try. Russia wasn't exactly playing kinder and gentler with the Afghans either, and they managed to do just about as well as we did. I doubt the Chinese, who would be even more brutal, will accomplish anything either. I am done caring about what the rest of the world does, so long as it doesn't affect or harm the US directly. We cannot afford to continue 'nation building' while our nation crumbles. If the Chinese want to try and massacre the Afghans, I simply don't care, but I don't think it will prove to be as easy as they might think it will be. If you want to fight the Chinese over Afghanistan, be my guest, but count me out. They aren't worth the effort.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NorthernDog 7/25/2021 12:17:05 PM (No. 856529)
It's not a functioning country - more like a collection of tribal lands with one semi-civilized capital. You cannot tame a wild beast.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 7/25/2021 12:29:06 PM (No. 856540)
Its quite simple, Biden is why. Trump explained it last night in his speech.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 7/25/2021 12:37:23 PM (No. 856547)
The Arab/Muslim culture is tribal and primitive. This is 2021; the Arabs are immersed in the year 700. It is a waste of neurons to think they are capable of acting any other way.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 7/25/2021 1:30:48 PM (No. 856593)
We should have just bombed it flat and stopped there. My family wouldn't be short one important member, and we'd have trillions more in money, and thousands more good men alive. Nothing wrong with Afghanistan that a 20 warhead spread wouldn't significantly improve.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: stablemoney 7/25/2021 1:56:09 PM (No. 856618)
The Afghans are armed, and could fight, but they are not. We should have spent our $9 trillion in the USA.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: chance_232 7/25/2021 2:06:56 PM (No. 856632)
The author left out another reason. Culture There never was a single unifying ruling government. There never was self determination, a desire for freedom, a desire to better ones self. There were no national institutions. Tribalism etc. Afghanistan more accurately reflects feudal Europe before the rise of the church and conquering consolidators
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Highlander 7/25/2021 2:26:47 PM (No. 856652)
“Why Afghanistan has Crumbled…” Because it’s a s__thole country?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 7/25/2021 5:35:52 PM (No. 856806)
5. They don’t give a sheet, kinda like SE Asian country we bled for.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: LaVallette 7/26/2021 6:28:39 AM (No. 857074)
The lesson be clearly learnt from every type of foreign intervention in an internecine war: Eventually both sides will turn against you for "prolonging the hardships". By all means, let there be freedom and liberty throughout the world but the struggle for it beings with ME!!. It cannot be delivered on a platter while other people, especially foreigners, fight for them on my behalf.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: MickTurn 7/26/2021 8:54:34 AM (No. 857198)
Once again the Deep State/Military Industrial Complex MURDERED all the troops that died there or were maimed, FOR NO REASON other than pure GREED!
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