Turn off the gas: is America ready
to embrace electric vehicles?
Guardian [U.K.],
by
Tom Perkins
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
5/23/2021 5:47:53 PM
In Detroit, auto plants have for decades churned out trucks built with Motor City steel and fueled by gasoline. But this week’s rollout of the Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck offered a vision of the future in America’s automotive heartland: aluminum-clad pickups running off of electric powertrains with lithium batteries. (Snip) “There’s no EV pickup market at the moment, so we just don’t know how big it could be, or what consumer acceptance will be,” she said. Truck consumers are generally unwilling to switch to cars just to go electric, Krebs said. So pitching them on the Lightning not only
Reply 1 - Posted by:
snakeoil 5/23/2021 5:56:26 PM (No. 794679)
The most exciting news since The Edsel.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 5/23/2021 5:59:21 PM (No. 794681)
No. Rich folks toy cars.
24 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
Califedup 5/23/2021 6:00:24 PM (No. 794683)
Electrical cars are losers and another communist death democrat freedom limiting scam to limit our ability to travel when and where we want to. Can't have that in a totalitarian country now can we.
33 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 5/23/2021 6:06:59 PM (No. 794687)
They will never be practical in the US until the day you can drive over 300 miles and then recharge the battery in less than 10 minutes.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 5/23/2021 6:18:24 PM (No. 794695)
Kind of a low bar, #4.
My current Honda Accord will go about 650 miles on a tank of gas at local traffic speeds ~60 mph and below. When we go cross country at 80+, the range drops to a bit under 600, need to refill every 450-500 to have plenty of margin. 300 miles is "pretty short legs".
23 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 5/23/2021 6:35:19 PM (No. 794707)
The Article includes: " . . . and Biden’s $2tn infrastructure plan includes $174bn to support the EV transition."
The above answers whether America is ready to embrace electric vehicles. Ford is not being informative regarding the per battery charge mileage when the truck is carrying a heavy load because it's bad news.
EV manufactures' TV ads usually claim the time to charge the battery from 20% to 80% takes X minutes. They don't advertise that to get from 80% to near 100% the charging time doubles (to 2X).
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Captleemo 5/23/2021 6:44:06 PM (No. 794718)
If America was ready to drive electric cars we would be driving them already. This is being forced on us by professional politicians and UN-elected bureaucrats.
27 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
sanspeur 5/23/2021 6:46:44 PM (No. 794720)
just ask , what Are they saving the gas for ??
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
SALady 5/23/2021 6:47:57 PM (No. 794722)
Why is nobody addressing the massive damage this type of insanity is going to do to world economies?!?!?!?
Seriously, how many people (from oil field workers, to the guys that work on the big oil tanker ships, to all the refinery workers, to the people who work at the gas stations -- and the countless millions of people all over the world who depend on the oil and gas industries to make a living) are going to be out of work and on the welfare plantation if this happens -- or watching their kids starve to death in 3rd world countries?!?!?!?!?
Not only is it a terrible and unrealistic plan for a wide-open country like the USA, it is going to cause wars and countless deaths as starving men can't feed their families because their jobs were destroyed!!!
Not to mention the pollution and massive ecological damage that will be done to this world in trying to produce the toxic batteries that will be needed for all those electric vehicles!!!!
But it will make a bunch of rich whiny lie-berals feel good, so I guess that is all that matters!!!
20 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
anniebc 5/23/2021 6:59:46 PM (No. 794733)
I don't know anybody who owns or wants to own an electric car. Not one soul.
25 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 5/23/2021 7:05:08 PM (No. 794740)
No.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mc squared 5/23/2021 7:05:49 PM (No. 794741)
We here in FL and other hurricane prone states can store gasoline before the power goes out. How can I use the evacuation routes when I can't wait to charge a vehicle. A Pox one all the Greenies.
22 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 5/23/2021 7:23:37 PM (No. 794755)
Nope. the gas and diesel had better keep coming.
9 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
BGray2 5/23/2021 7:24:39 PM (No. 794757)
If you think an accident is bad in a gas car, wait until you see one in an electric car.
8 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 5/23/2021 7:28:43 PM (No. 794760)
Huh. But, dont you need either fossil-fueled or nuclear power generation to power the battery chargers for the millions of electric cars? Come on, dims. Be real. You cant rely on wind-powered turbines to charge the batteries of electric cars. This is a farce and total joke. Is it even possible for you to be real?
14 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
panther361 5/23/2021 7:30:53 PM (No. 794762)
How long before it gets out that raw materals needed for these batteries and other parts come from China?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bad-hair 5/23/2021 7:42:18 PM (No. 794769)
What nobody is saying, at least not where I can read it is how long to charge ?
Drop the temperature to sub zero and what is your mileage range.
Instead of MPG we need miles (of range) per hour (of charging).
At home power (110) it's apparently 6 MOR per hour. Level 2 will get you 30 or so per hour. BUT!!! level3 will top you up in 90 minutes. Level 3 chargers are 400 volt monsters at $60,000 a crack.
How much was that Tesla again? and the 40k Ford is actually closer to 80K if you want audio.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
MickTurn 5/23/2021 7:59:20 PM (No. 794784)
SO genius' where is the Electricity going to come from when there is NO WIND and it's CLOUDY?
MORONS!
6 people like this.
Reply 19 - Posted by:
deerejon 5/23/2021 8:04:39 PM (No. 794788)
Not gonna Happen.That would bring our ecomny to a screeching Halt. The answer is Hell no.
4 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
downnout 5/23/2021 8:29:08 PM (No. 794800)
Keep your mitts off my SUV.
6 people like this.
Reply 21 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 5/23/2021 8:32:06 PM (No. 794803)
My neighbors had a company Tesla for a few months. They decided to drive on a long-distance trip that normally took 8 hours, but took over 12 in the Tesla because they had to stop for recharging. One benefit - the Tesla software helpfully provided directions to charging stations along the route.
3 people like this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
Rokkitt 5/23/2021 9:15:26 PM (No. 794837)
My best car was a 69 Camaro with a 454 big block built with my brother. It hauled has an got me outta more trouble than u could imagine including the liberty city riots
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Venturer 5/23/2021 9:39:58 PM (No. 794857)
The Government forced people into pick up trucks with their CAFE laws.
Any family of more than 4 had to buy one to get the family on board.
Big cars pulled trailers and boats and RV's they had to buy pick ups to haul them.
Every tine the government forces something the American Public is forced to find a way around it.
6 people like this.
Reply 24 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 5/23/2021 10:11:18 PM (No. 794875)
Why not electric planes. John Kerry could use one. Maybe the Hollywood elitist could benefit, too.
5 people like this.
Reply 25 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/23/2021 11:21:02 PM (No. 794908)
No.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
4Liberty2020 5/23/2021 11:32:34 PM (No. 794918)
My husband and I went to the store the other day and watched as a man was plugging in his electric car to the "pump." I went shopping while my husband waited in the car, because he just had hip surgery. When I got back to the car, 30 minutes later, the man still hadn't gotten his car " fueled." My husband said that several other people tried to help him out with the pump without any luck and that the man was on the phone arguing with someone about it. This is really going to be fun watching the world go with all electric vehicles.
4 people like this.
Reply 27 - Posted by:
Trigger2 5/24/2021 2:06:39 AM (No. 794970)
The short answer to the question is: NO, absolutely not. I'm not getting stuck on some country road.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 5/24/2021 7:08:14 AM (No. 795045)
It’s a scam. Just like solar panels, windmills and unicorns.
2 people like this.
Reply 29 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 5/24/2021 7:26:47 AM (No. 795055)
Electric vehicles should pay a road use tax comparable to what internal combustion engine vehicles pay.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Old Army Vet 5/24/2021 8:55:49 AM (No. 795144)
Electric vehicles are not going to replace gas powered for a very long time. When they catch on it has to be because they have a decent range and recharge in about five minutes. I'd also like to know where all of this electrical power is going to come from. As electric vehicles come onto the scene people are going to need charging stations in their homes and at work. I live in a medium sized city in florida and as far as I know there are only about a dozen charging stations available, none of which are in the downtown area. Who is going to install all of these stations, how much are they each going to cost the consumer, where is the extra amount of electric power going to come from and how is it going to be generated? Solar and wind could maybe produce 1% if the need but that's about all. This all means that either fossil or nuclear power is going to be needed. If the electric car crowd have their way both of those sources will be banned. Good luck boys and girls, it ain't gonna work.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 5/24/2021 9:20:31 AM (No. 795169)
I'm going to make a killing selling electric vehicles that have a wind turbine mounted on the roof. The faster you go, the sooner your battery charges and farther you can go........
Huh? Oh........, nevermind.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
dst4life 5/24/2021 2:45:50 PM (No. 795472)
Microwave ovens, Keurig coffeemakers, cell phones, and computers have fueled the public's addiction to getting everything FAST. And if it takes two days, or even two hours, to charge a car, they will quickly scrap it. But Leftists are too stupid to figure this out.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
msjena 5/24/2021 6:05:24 PM (No. 795659)
No.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
msjena 5/24/2021 6:07:28 PM (No. 795660)
All of the woke businesses build those charging stations in their parking lots. I never see anyone charging their car.
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Consumer demand is minimal, if any. And there's no explanation about where you plug it in. Next to the coffee maker ?