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Posted By: Magnante, 3/12/2021 8:21:28 AM

A conversation on the academic performance of Black law students between two faculty members teaching at Georgetown following a Zoom session was recorded and posted online without their knowledge. As a result, one of them has been fired and tearfully apologized, while the other one is “on leave until the investigation by the Office of Diversity, Equity and Affirmative Action is complete,” for failing to react in outrage over what the Dean of the law school termed “reprehensible statements concerning the evaluation of Black students.” (snip) apparently it is “reprehensible” to truthfully discuss the academic performance of Black students

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bpl40 3/12/2021 8:33:31 AM (No. 721574)
I sent the following letter to Dean Treanor Dear Dean Treanor: I was appalled at the shabby treatment meted out to Prof. Sandra Sellers. The ONLY thing reprehensible here is your comments, your attitude and actions. As for the good professor, she is better off being disconnected from the foul, woke, hypocritical, left wing cesspool you have made of the institution Many years ago my son had applied to your school and was not accepted. Something for which I am grateful now!. Sincerely,Dear Dean Treanor: I was appalled at the shabby treatment meted out to Prof. Sandra Sellers. The ONLY thing reprehensible here is your comments, your attitude and actions. As for the good professor, she is better off being disconnected from the foul, woke, hypocritical, left wing cesspool you have made of the institution Many years ago my son had applied to your school and was not accepted. Something for which I am grateful now!. Sincerely,
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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40 3/12/2021 8:34:20 AM (No. 721576)
Sorry for the double post. Copy and paste on Windows 10 is the pits!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 3/12/2021 8:40:59 AM (No. 721589)
Even Mr. Magoo could see this one coming. Truth is outlawed. This is no different from witch hunts of old. Many millions of innocents will be sacrificed on the pyre of leftist social murderers.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: smcchk 3/12/2021 8:49:29 AM (No. 721606)
Is this not a private conversation? How can they be fired for privately discussing some of their concerns?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mathman 3/12/2021 9:09:50 AM (No. 721629)
Seriously. Any discussion of the academic record of any student should not be posted. Such a discussion might take place in private, if there were no listening devices available. That means off campus, with cell phones and computers OFF. That means not in any public venue, such as a restaurant or a bar. The best venue would be in a nature preserve, not within sight or sound of any other person. Seriously. This kind of stuff is protected at the highest level. The records are not available to the parents of the student. They are not available to professionals. How could anyone be so stupid?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: seamusm 3/12/2021 9:12:35 AM (No. 721632)
Once upon a time, Universities could be censured and have accreditation threatened for such an assault on Constitutional rights. That said, it is probably a firing offense to be so stupid as to not realize that a conversation was being broadcast.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: reefdiver 3/12/2021 9:14:24 AM (No. 721634)
We have seen this before in totalitarian regimes, and the seeds were planted here over the past 40 years or so in schools across the country. If there is no push back, we will soon be living in a full dictatorship, with no first or second amendment rights.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: FourMom 3/12/2021 9:19:45 AM (No. 721640)
Isn't it illegal to record someone without their knowledge? It was when I worked in NYC. Now that Iive in TX, I understand that only one person in the conversation has to give consent, but here clearly neither prof did.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: lakerman1 3/12/2021 9:42:30 AM (No. 721661)
When a student was not doing well in a course I taught, I would ask his or her other professors how the student was performing in their classes. My goal was always to reach the student in my teaching. What this professor was doing was expressing frustration in her inability to reach a segment of students. And she probably was speaking the truth. I don't know what she did that was wrong.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Norway 3/12/2021 9:51:41 AM (No. 721673)
Another casualty of the Woke Inquisition.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: thomthomp 3/12/2021 10:07:25 AM (No. 721694)
The "Office of Diversity, Equity and Affirmative Action" is straight out of Orwell. I wonder if they have black uniforms with armbands.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: skacmar 3/12/2021 10:15:08 AM (No. 721703)
What happens to the student who released the conversation? If I were the student who was being discussed regarding my poor academic performance, I would be very angry! The social justice warrior who thought he had a "gotcha" with what was a private conversation violated the student's privacy as well as the teacher's expectations of privacy. The school should take action against the recorder/releaser for his actions. The Georgetown Office of Diversity, Equity, and Affirmative Action is not fulfilling it's mission if it prohibits the free discussion of why Black students might perform at a lower level than their White or Asian peers.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 3/12/2021 10:17:58 AM (No. 721708)
Learning, knowledge, understanding, reasoning, judgement, evaluation - - those are all White concepts. How dare anyone try to force Blacks to adapt those concepts? Let Blacks be Blacks - - and give them the same degrees and jobs that Whites have! Meanwhile - - please pay no attention to all those superachieving Asians.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Bison65 3/12/2021 10:32:03 AM (No. 721723)
The Ministry of Truth at work. 1984...what a genius Orwell was.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: marbles 3/12/2021 10:40:20 AM (No. 721738)
If she spoke about how well the Asian and Caucasian students were doing would she be fired for not mentioning the black students?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 3/12/2021 11:02:51 AM (No. 721761)
This professor is just speaking the truth. We need "ebonics" for black law students. Here...try this course...it is easier and you'll get an "A" so you too can graduate tops in your class. When in doubt just blame "whitety". There you just earned an "A".
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RockDoc 3/12/2021 11:46:30 AM (No. 721799)
Georgetown, my alma mater, totally lost me when they started a prochoice club on campus and covered the crucifix and other religious symbols for Obama's speech.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/12/2021 12:28:20 PM (No. 721839)
This is all a part of divorcing from the left. We need to take our money back and secede from the left's ruin.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Pucky1 3/12/2021 12:44:39 PM (No. 721849)
Is there any part of this conversation that gives Dean Treanor pause, to consider that preparation and demonstrated capacity for law school may factor into this conversation. Seems the Dean is oblivious to social promotion in K-12 as well as college. Just another AWOKE BLOKE depended on Fed dollars to toe the line.. Mirengoff asks the right questions
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Reply 20 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 3/12/2021 12:44:49 PM (No. 721850)
I see this woman, Andrew Cuomo, and all these kids in Biden's cages at the border right now. The Left places absolutely no value on human life. People, as individuals, are completely useless and dispensable. I've often wondered why Cain killed his brother Abel. No clear motive, but I do see the wickedness of the human heart.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: bgarrett 3/12/2021 12:55:02 PM (No. 721853)
All across America, people are afraid to speak the truth. 'Land of the free'; HA!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bohallx 3/12/2021 1:16:35 PM (No. 721865)
Traditionally the way to deal with AA performance in a group setting is to IGNORE it entirely. When it becomes a drain on group performance you just transfer them to some other place. Attempts to deal with AA's exactly the same way you might deal with others will be used by your own competitors to hurt you, or get you fired. Seen this NUMEROUS TIMES over the years. That Law School faculty lounge must be a dreadful place to hang around lately...... everybody looking over their shoulders, scowling, snork sounds are heard hear and there....... ANIMAL FARM LIVES
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Reply 23 - Posted by: msjena 3/12/2021 2:44:39 PM (No. 721950)
She isn't the only one who has said, truthfully, that many black students are under-qualified for the programs they are admitted to and do poorly. Instead of firing her, why don't they do something about it? Make sure the students who are admitted are able to do the work. Give test scores their proper weight. Grades are not always reliable. Look historically at the students who have failed and see what their objective qualifications were. If they were high or even average, that means it's the student's fault. If they were significantly below average, it means it's the school's fault.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 3/13/2021 7:51:48 AM (No. 722486)
I have an idea for Black slave reparations: free college or trade school. Many schools have large donations and endowments. A scholarship full ride is given for four years to any American born Black person who's family has been here and not immigrated from another country for a set time. They must qualify thus given encouragement to complete and do well in high school. They must come out with a trade or skill for a job from college. It is already available money with a lot donated by the wealthy, and not more taxes. Colleges should go for it since they are so liberal. No substitutes and no checks handed over. A person who has already graduated or dropped out of high school can get remedial two years more to improve chances to enter the program or join the armed service. The US gets more skilled workers and gets rid of this dreaded slavery issue.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: doctorfixit 3/15/2021 1:53:55 PM (No. 724556)
Remove all taxpayer money from colleges an universities.
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