Schools punish Black students
3.5 times more often than white
kids, MUSC experts say
The State [Columbia, SC],
by
Lucas Daprile
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
2/1/2021 1:37:33 PM
Elementary schools are 3.5 times as likely to suspend or give detentions to Black children than their white peers, according to a recently released study. The study, which included a researcher from Medical University of South Carolina, used data on nearly 12,000 students from ages 9-10 nationwide to determine how factors like social media, sleep, video games and more affect health, according to the website.(Snip) When researchers accounted for external factors such as family conflict and income, they found white and Hispanic students were punished at roughly the same rate, according to the study. “All other things being equal, Black kids
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Nimby 2/1/2021 1:41:25 PM (No. 681226)
I am sick and tired of this bs
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 2/1/2021 1:41:38 PM (No. 681227)
Probably because the black kids act up 10 times as often as white kids, but only get punished for 1/3 of their misbehavior, and the white kids get punished for all of theirs.
The headline is intentioally very deceptive. The current generation of chip-on-shoulder, hair trigger violence black inner city kids are dangerous, even unarmed.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Mofongo 2/1/2021 1:43:05 PM (No. 681230)
Oh good grief!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Mofongo 2/1/2021 1:43:10 PM (No. 681231)
Oh good grief!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:48:13 PM (No. 681270)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:48:27 PM (No. 681273)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:48:45 PM (No. 681277)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:48:51 PM (No. 681278)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:48:51 PM (No. 681279)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:49:00 PM (No. 681281)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 2/1/2021 1:49:01 PM (No. 681282)
Try doing a survey of who teachers would like in their classrooms. My bet would be Asian, white ,Spanish then black.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Northcross 2/1/2021 1:56:13 PM (No. 681318)
Using leftist logic, we need to start punishing innocent white kids until these statistics even out.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 2/1/2021 1:56:58 PM (No. 681321)
Apparently this thread has the hiccups!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 2/1/2021 1:57:10 PM (No. 681322)
Apparently this thread has the hiccups!
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There’s an echo in here!
As meaningful as the studies that showed cops pulled over blacks 3x whites on a stretch of road.
They set up cameras and blacks were speeding 5x whites.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
bighambone 2/1/2021 2:04:00 PM (No. 681356)
Maybe because they fail to comply with the instructions they are given by school staff and were involved in violent activities? But at the moment it is not politically correct to even think that!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Hermoine 2/1/2021 2:05:34 PM (No. 681363)
Testing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:06:00 PM (No. 681366)
Odd. To find "comparables" they controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:06:04 PM (No. 681367)
Odd. To find "comparables" they controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:06:10 PM (No. 681368)
Odd. To find "comparables" they controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:06:58 PM (No. 681369)
Odd. To find "comparables" they appear to have controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:07:01 PM (No. 681370)
Odd. To find "comparables" they appear to have controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:07:04 PM (No. 681371)
Odd. To find "comparables" they appear to have controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/1/2021 2:07:08 PM (No. 681372)
In my first Statistics in Research class it was shown that the more fire trucks that respond to a fire, the more likely the fire is to cause greater damage and/or loss of life. That statistic led the ignorant to conclude that when buildings are on fire, sending less fire trucks will save lives and property. The ignorant or just plain stupid didn't have the sense to know that a four-alarm fire, which summons the fire equipment from four different stations, is indicative of a massive fire that has already caused significant damage and more fire fighting equipment is needed to protect the nearby exposures as well as extinguish the original fire. Thats is similar to concluding the more doctors summoned to a trauma room or ICU, the more likely it is that the patient will die, so if one has suffered multiple injuries or system failures, fewer specialists treating you will increase your chances of survival. There are spurious correlations among variables in statistical analysis, especially in the hands of the agenda driven, like the global warming and social justice mavens. This article is an example of that.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:07:39 PM (No. 681374)
Odd. They appear to have controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
vesparado1 2/1/2021 2:07:42 PM (No. 681375)
Odd. They appear to have controlled for everything except behavior in school.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/1/2021 2:07:48 PM (No. 681377)
In my first Statistics in Research class it was shown that the more fire trucks that respond to a fire, the more likely the fire is to cause greater damage and/or loss of life. That statistic led the ignorant to conclude that when buildings are on fire, sending less fire trucks will save lives and property. The ignorant or just plain stupid didn't have the sense to know that a four-alarm fire, which summons the fire equipment from four different stations, is indicative of a massive fire that has already caused significant damage and more fire fighting equipment is needed to protect the nearby exposures as well as extinguish the original fire. Thats is similar to concluding the more doctors summoned to a trauma room or ICU, the more likely it is that the patient will die, so if one has suffered multiple injuries or system failures, fewer specialists treating you will increase your chances of survival. There are spurious correlations among variables in statistical analysis, especially in the hands of the agenda driven, like the global warming and social justice mavens. This article is an example of that.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/1/2021 2:08:17 PM (No. 681380)
In my first Statistics in Research class it was shown that the more fire trucks that respond to a fire, the more likely the fire is to cause greater damage and/or loss of life. That statistic led the ignorant to conclude that when buildings are on fire, sending less fire trucks will save lives and property. The ignorant or just plain stupid didn't have the sense to know that a four-alarm fire, which summons the fire equipment from four different stations, is indicative of a massive fire that has already caused significant damage and more fire fighting equipment is needed to protect the nearby exposures as well as extinguish the original fire. Thats is similar to concluding the more doctors summoned to a trauma room or ICU, the more likely it is that the patient will die, so if one has suffered multiple injuries or system failures, fewer specialists treating you will increase your chances of survival. There are spurious correlations among variables in statistical analysis, especially in the hands of the agenda driven, like the global warming and social justice mavens. This article is an example of that.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
TJ54 2/1/2021 2:08:34 PM (No. 681385)
And black “youths” commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes that this propagandist fails to mention. Could there be a connection?
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
TJ54 2/1/2021 2:08:39 PM (No. 681387)
And black “youths” commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes that this propagandist fails to mention. Could there be a connection?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
TJ54 2/1/2021 2:08:45 PM (No. 681389)
And black “youths” commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes that this propagandist fails to mention. Could there be a connection?
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/1/2021 2:08:48 PM (No. 681390)
In my first Statistics in Research class it was shown that the more fire trucks that respond to a fire, the more likely the fire is to cause greater damage and/or loss of life. That statistic led the ignorant to conclude that when buildings are on fire, sending less fire trucks will save lives and property. The ignorant or just plain stupid didn't have the sense to know that a four-alarm fire, which summons the fire equipment from four different stations, is indicative of a massive fire that has already caused significant damage and more fire fighting equipment is needed to protect the nearby exposures as well as extinguish the original fire. Thats is similar to concluding the more doctors summoned to a trauma room or ICU, the more likely it is that the patient will die, so if one has suffered multiple injuries or system failures, fewer specialists treating you will increase your chances of survival. There are spurious correlations among variables in statistical analysis, especially in the hands of the agenda driven, like the global warming and social justice mavens. This article is an example of that.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
planetgeo 2/1/2021 2:08:52 PM (No. 681392)
The repeated postings look like signs of either a server bug or a "denial of service" attack on this forum.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
TJ54 2/1/2021 2:09:02 PM (No. 681394)
And black “youths” commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes that this propagandist fails to mention. Could there be a connection?
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 2/1/2021 2:09:21 PM (No. 681396)
I'd reply to the article but am afraid I'll get the hiccups too.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 2/1/2021 2:09:34 PM (No. 681398)
I'd reply to the article but am afraid I'll get the hiccups too.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 2/1/2021 2:09:43 PM (No. 681399)
I'd reply to the article but am afraid I'll get the hiccups too.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
TJ54 2/1/2021 2:10:06 PM (No. 681400)
And black “youths” commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes that this propagandist fails to mention. Could there be a connection?
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/1/2021 2:10:15 PM (No. 681401)
In my first Statistics in Research class it was shown that the more fire trucks that respond to a fire, the more likely the fire is to cause greater damage and/or loss of life. That statistic led the ignorant to conclude that when buildings are on fire, sending less fire trucks will save lives and property. The ignorant or just plain stupid didn't have the sense to know that a four-alarm fire, which summons the fire equipment from four different stations, is indicative of a massive fire that has already caused significant damage and more fire fighting equipment is needed to protect the nearby exposures as well as extinguish the original fire. Thats is similar to concluding the more doctors summoned to a trauma room or ICU, the more likely it is that the patient will die, so if one has suffered multiple injuries or system failures, fewer specialists treating you will increase your chances of survival. There are spurious correlations among variables in statistical analysis, especially in the hands of the agenda driven, like the global warming and social justice mavens. This article is an example of that.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:14:30 PM (No. 681413)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:14:37 PM (No. 681416)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:14:44 PM (No. 681419)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:15:05 PM (No. 681427)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:15:25 PM (No. 681429)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:15:30 PM (No. 681430)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:15:33 PM (No. 681431)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:15:57 PM (No. 681436)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:17:44 PM (No. 681437)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:17:46 PM (No. 681438)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:18:19 PM (No. 681440)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:18:21 PM (No. 681441)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:18:26 PM (No. 681442)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:18:28 PM (No. 681443)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 2/1/2021 2:19:10 PM (No. 681446)
Bad schools! Bad! Bad!
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:19:13 PM (No. 681447)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 56 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:19:15 PM (No. 681448)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 57 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:19:19 PM (No. 681449)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 58 - Posted by:
Rama41 2/1/2021 2:19:22 PM (No. 681450)
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in here that compares the punishment by race of those committing the same offenses. Nothing about comparative numbers of offenders and nothing about a comparison of how the same offense is dealt with by teachers. We can begin with the premise that all students should be treated fairly, but it appears this study seeks to change that, replacing fairness with, yep, "equity".
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Reply 59 - Posted by:
pinger 2/1/2021 3:05:16 PM (No. 681642)
That’s about the same percentages of those committing felonies. Correlation?
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Reply 60 - Posted by:
Strike3 2/1/2021 3:07:54 PM (No. 681649)
Why such light treatment? The ones I've coached were basically all pains-in-the-ass.
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Reply 61 - Posted by:
Strike3 2/1/2021 3:08:11 PM (No. 681650)
Why such light treatment? The ones I've coached were basically all pains-in-the-ass.
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Reply 62 - Posted by:
Rand Al'Thor 2/1/2021 3:12:23 PM (No. 681670)
Reading the comments, I'm experiencing a feeling of Deja Vu.
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Reply 63 - Posted by:
Rand Al'Thor 2/1/2021 3:13:09 PM (No. 681673)
Reading the comments, I'm experiencing a feeling of Deja Vu.
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Reply 64 - Posted by:
Strike3 2/1/2021 3:15:31 PM (No. 681674)
Why such kid glove treatment? The ones I've coached were basically all pains-in-the-ass.
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Reply 65 - Posted by:
jimboscott 2/1/2021 3:27:42 PM (No. 681704)
Fact...
Young black males are at least SEVEN time more likely to kill someone than young white males.
Factor that into the equation and it would SEEM that 3.5 times more punishment is not nearly enough.
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Reply 66 - Posted by:
jimboscott 2/1/2021 3:27:55 PM (No. 681705)
Fact...
Young black males are at least SEVEN time more likely to kill someone than young white males.
Factor that into the equation and it would SEEM that 3.5 times more punishment is not nearly enough.
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Reply 67 - Posted by:
jimboscott 2/1/2021 3:28:56 PM (No. 681710)
Fact...
Young black males are at least SEVEN time more likely to kill someone than young white males.
Factor that into the equation and it would SEEM that 3.5 times more punishment is not nearly enough.
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Reply 68 - Posted by:
moebellini3 2/1/2021 3:36:27 PM (No. 681722)
All B.S. You can take these studies and put them with the hypocrites who said the election wasn't stolen. We are living in a sick society. Shove it.
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Reply 69 - Posted by:
moebellini3 2/1/2021 3:36:31 PM (No. 681723)
All B.S. You can take these studies and put them with the hypocrites who said the election wasn't stolen. We are living in a sick society. Shove it.
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Reply 70 - Posted by:
moebellini3 2/1/2021 3:36:38 PM (No. 681724)
All B.S. You can take these studies and put them with the hypocrites who said the election wasn't stolen. We are living in a sick society. Shove it.
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Reply 71 - Posted by:
DARling 2/1/2021 3:45:57 PM (No. 681735)
I think they'd get in trouble more if they didn't have screeching moms who storm down to the school and demand to know who is picking on "my baby." I think most teachers probably pick their battles these days.
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Reply 72 - Posted by:
clayusmcret 2/1/2021 3:51:05 PM (No. 681743)
My question would be are black kids committing 3.5 times as many infractions as white kids? And if so, why? That's where the conversation should start.
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Reply 73 - Posted by:
czechlist 2/1/2021 4:02:45 PM (No. 681750)
Not wishing to repeat anything I scrolled through all of the (repeated) comments. In the process I forgot what I meant to say. Oh, bother.
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Reply 74 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 2/1/2021 4:22:42 PM (No. 681764)
If they sharpened their teeth they still wouldn't be more feral.
The old grumpy codger in me is just about nigged out.
......and I'm an old hippie surfer from SoCal.
No one but blacks ever taught me to 'distrust' blacks.
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Sounds lenient to me considering they are 100 times more disruptive and destructive than White children.
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Reply 76 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 2/1/2021 4:39:09 PM (No. 681773)
Wonder when they are going to show the stats on black on black murder in Chicago and other big cities. Sure they will find a way to blame black on black crime on whites.
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Reply 77 - Posted by:
kono 2/1/2021 4:41:01 PM (No. 681774)
None of the factors that the study claims to have factored out of the analysis included the comparative frequency or degree of misbehavior. And if any disparity in the outcome implies disparity in treatment, it implies the behavior was uniform.
At every school I attended (which were several, being a Navy Brat) there were individuals or groups who couldn't seem to stop behaving worse than everybody else. They weren't all the same race or sex; but the majority were African-American (i.e. not the African immigrants or exchange students, the majority of whom seemed to be among the better behaved and more polite students).
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Reply 78 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 2/1/2021 4:56:39 PM (No. 681787)
I can tell you that people who raise feral children, regardless of race, ethnicity, or culture, unleash them on the citizens of the public schools. I can tell you that said feral children raise 16 kinds of hell. I can tell you that feral children of the protected classes get extra considerations. I can tell you that in communities and cultures where parents tell their toddler children to “Hurry the F up!” (I heard this yesterday in the grocery store parking lot), are THE problem. I can tell you that it will get far, far worse since said people reproduce at astoundingly successful rates.
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Reply 79 - Posted by:
joew9 2/1/2021 8:20:30 PM (No. 681954)
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
Op please fix it.
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Notice in the writing the word blacks is capitalized but whites isn't. That summarizes the article. Looking for special treatment.
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Reply 81 - Posted by:
DVC 2/2/2021 3:33:14 AM (No. 682136)
#32, that's an excellent example that correlation is not causality.
On famous example is: If you could show a correlation between cardboard box production in Peoria and the kangaroo population in Australia, do you think the kangaroos cause the cardboard boxes, or do the cardboard boxes cause the kangaroos?
Lots of correlations are pure BS.
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Reply 82 - Posted by:
hoosierblue 2/2/2021 8:24:31 AM (No. 682291)
Bona Fides, must have a sticky key.
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Reply 83 - Posted by:
MickTurn 2/2/2021 5:12:10 PM (No. 682923)
How about How many times did the various kids act up or misbehave? That is the true measure.
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Comments:
This has nothing to do with single-parent homes, with occasional discipline handed out by a series of random boyfriends, or with a culture that admires hair-trigger violent outbursts and a total lack of respect for authority figures.