An Article V Convention
Is Long Overdue
American Spectator,
by
David Catron
Original Article
Posted By: Garnet,
1/13/2021 6:46:36 AM
Last week’s mayhem in Washington, the mendacious accusations of the Democrats notwithstanding, was not incited by President Trump. The wildly exaggerated “storming of the Capitol,” like the huge protest itself, was caused by the belief — shared by countless millions of Americans — that the voters no longer have any meaningful influence over the Washington establishment. This sense of powerlessness is by no means ameliorated when we see a small cadre of Big Tech oligarchs and the corporate media collude with the Democratic Party to crush dissent from “progressive” orthodoxy. Fortunately, Article V of the Constitution provides a legal remedy for the grotesque hubris of the Beltway ruling class
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 1/13/2021 7:04:57 AM (No. 658951)
Don't agree with term limits for federal judges. Removes them yes, doesn't hold them accountable. Should be a mechanism for citizens to remove. A recall action. Then some leftist judge in say Californistan thinking he/she will make all her leftist buddies happy will face the decision of the entire nation. Changes the dynamics of job security.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
tootall 1/13/2021 7:12:37 AM (No. 658957)
A concern I've heard is that once this door is opened, the power brokers can permanently change the Constitution in any way they want. And all sort of unwanted results might occur and be codified. Seems like that's happening already. To paraphrase somebody who allegedly did something somewhere sometime, 'At this point, what difference does it make!' The cow is out of the barn...I sense more conflict to come. I need to learn more about all ofthis. And I will
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
billa57 1/13/2021 7:22:13 AM (No. 658967)
Many States have already joined. We need this to happen immediately! Leftists have control of Washington, the media, the courts, and elections. A Convention of States can and will force term limits on congress and secure an IRON CLAD voting system. Free speech is no longer allowed and that will have to be addressed also.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
FormerDem 1/13/2021 7:57:17 AM (No. 659011)
We just saw an election stolen. Where is the wisdom in putting the constitution itself within range of those processes? What is needed is to clean up elections. As long as they are dirty, this convention would do worse harm than the biden presidency is going to.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
anniebc 1/13/2021 8:04:36 AM (No. 659026)
FTA
"The latest Convention of States movement was co-founded by former Tea Party activist Mark Meckler and constitutional lawyer Michael Farris in 2013. Since then, COS applications have passed in Georgia, Alaska, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Indiana, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arizona, North Dakota, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Utah, and Mississippi. COS has also passed one chamber each in New Mexico, Iowa, South Dakota, Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia, and New Hampshire. In 2020, COS applications will be considered in Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin."
The major problem is getting Congress to abide by either option of Article V. They are a law to themselves, so what's next?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Fitzroy 1/13/2021 8:20:27 AM (No. 659037)
We need to enforce the constitution we already have, which is quite a good one. It was drafted and ratified by serious and knowledgeable people. Unfortunately, today we are not serious and knowledgeable people. We have abandoned real education, virtue, religion, art, honor, civil discourse and most everything else that holds civilization together. I would not entrust the constitution to this age.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 1/13/2021 8:24:09 AM (No. 659040)
Ummm, so let me get this straight. Congress doesn't give a flip about laws, the Constitution, rules, etc. etc. (except to control the peons), and we want to start messing with our foundational document?
Um, laws are for those who abide by them. Something else entirely is needed for those who don't.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
smokincol 1/13/2021 8:32:12 AM (No. 659047)
first of all, not one person should have gone beyond the stairs of the building and the Trump people should have known better, if they did; secondly, anyone who did go beyond the stairs should be prosecuted, if the DOJ can find time to do such a thing but these are, allegedly, Trump supporters so a rapid prosecution will be inevitable; third, an investigation should begin immediately to uncover who in the federal hierarchy organized the emplacement of capital police, having the knowledge of a very large crowd of people attending the event, etc. we cannot trust the FBI to investigate any incident that might, in any way, involve a demcom member of congress. we all know it was not, totally, Trump people who entered the capital building and this should be the very first piece of evidence presented to the people of this country who are buying this propaganda that it was because of President Trump's involvement. the press, even the Conservative press is falling in line with the propaganda dialogue, which I find very disturbing.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 1/13/2021 8:53:11 AM (No. 659075)
Gotta LOVE the double-barreled alliteration :
"the tasty trough of federal funds"!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 1/13/2021 8:54:57 AM (No. 659080)
My college math is pretty rusty, but how can two-thirds of the states be both 34 and 38? As I calculate it, 38 is three-fourths. Or is this just sloppy reporting.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 1/13/2021 8:56:18 AM (No. 659084)
From a conservative point of view, yes, an Article V Convention of the States is long overdue to clean up a few things. But, this can cut both ways. If too many states were to fall under dim control, there could easily be unintended consequences of such a convention.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
clayusmcret 1/13/2021 9:10:32 AM (No. 659111)
As much as I think America needs an Article V convention, I just don't think our constitution would survive it. Republicans play fair while democrats/communists play blood sports. There's no way an Article V convention wouldn't be hijacked to end America as we know it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MDConservative 1/13/2021 9:46:14 AM (No. 659163)
Here's another pet idea of the fool class...let's have a convention. Okay. And who will be part of those delegations? Hint: It won't be that nice Ed or Agnes down the block. How will delegates be selected? Likely the same old pols? Yeah, likely. And then when the convention assembles and gets down to cases...well, no one thought they could rig a Presidential election, either.
You're ready to take that gamble? I'm certainly not.
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A really dumb move considering the fact
that 99% of congress critters are completely
Constitutionally illiterate and that percentage
is shared by the good people of this country.
Being generous and saying on 95% of what
DC does on any day is UnConstitutional. If
ya don't know whats broke, ya can't fix it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
smaricic 1/13/2021 10:51:39 AM (No. 659265)
Two things:
First, any amendment that would limit the terms of Senators and Congresspersons needs the "magic clause" to pass through the Congress (if that is the preferred path): "this amendment shall not apply to any currently serving Senator or Congressperson."
Second, I've thought about an election amendment a lot since November 3, and here is what I have come up with:
Section 1. All in-person elections for federal offices shall be restricted to four consecutive days ending with the first Tuesday in November. All ballots must be received by official voting places by 11:59 PM that Tuesday night, with the exception of absentee ballots that are lawfully cast by uniformed service members, their family members, or American citizens visiting foreign countries (those three classes of ballots have one more week to arrive at official voting places).
Section 2. Each state and district must clean up voter registration lists no later than one month prior to the start of the election. All deceased voters and all voters who have moved out of the relevant state or district shall be removed from said voter registration lists. No voter shall be permitted to register in more than one state; nor shall any voter be permitted to register more than once within any state.
Section 3. Any voter who wants to vote by absentee ballot must request said ballot in advance, and must show legitimate reasons for absentee balloting. There shall be no mass mailings of ballots to people who have not requested them.
Section 4. Ballot harvesting shall not be permitted in any federal election. Drop boxes for ballots shall be permitted only inside police departments and county election offices, and these boxes shall be monitored by adequate video systems.
Section 5. The cost of holding federal elections shall be shared among the federal government, the states, and local governments. No non-governmental entities may pay for the operation of federal elections; nor may they pay for the operation of any state and local elections that are intertwined with those federal elections..
Section 6. Only citizens of the United States of America may vote in federal elections. Photo IDs shall be required for all voting, and these shall be provided free of charge by the relevant state or district. All mail-in or absentee ballots must be accompanied by a legible copy of the voter's photo ID, and these copies shall be provided free of charge by the relevant state or district.
Section 7. Partisan poll watchers have the right to check signatures, addresses, and photo IDs of all voters, to check all markings on all ballots, and to monitor the counting, tallying, and reporting of all votes; all such monitoring shall be conducted from a distance which they, the poll watchers, are comfortable with. All vote counting centers shall have adequate video monitoring of all registering, counting, tallying and reporting of votes.
Section 8. All voting places must use error-proof systems to register, count, tally, and report the votes. No such system shall be used in any federal election unless it is approved by the Federal Election Commission and by the legislature of the relevant state or district. No computers, equipment, software, or ballots shall be used which are not made in the United States of America by companies owned and operated by American citizens. All such systems must be backed up with paper ballots which can be easily read by the voter, and easily counted and re-counted. No voting systems shall be connected at any time to the internet, or accessible by foreign entities. No software and no software updates shall be used unless these have been approved by the Federal Election Commission and by the legislature of the relevant state or district. All systems, software, and software updates shall be transparent to all parties. All voting systems must insure that no one can trace which voter voted for which candidate.
Section 9. A nationwide system shall be set up by the Federal Election Commission to check that no voter has voted more than once in the same election, or that any voter's vote has been counted more than once.
Section 10. No official vote counts from any state or district shall be released to the press or the public until 8 PM Pacific time on that Tuesday night.
Section 11. All candidates have the right to demand a recount for any federal election if the margin between the leading candidate and the requesting candidate is less than 2 percent of the total vote for that office. Candidates have two weeks after the election to make such a request.
Section 12. All ballots (used and unused), all electronic tabulation materials, all voting logs, and all video evidence must be kept secure for 22 months after the election. All states and districts shall ensure a chain of custody of all such ballots, materials, logs, and video evidence.
Section 13. All state and district legislatures shall go into special session on the Wednesday before any election for federal office, and they shall remain in session for at least one month, in order to ensure and determine the fairness of the election process and the accuracy of the results.
Section 14. The Federal Election Commission shall be expanded from six members to seven. All members of that Commission shall resign on March 1 of all odd-numbered years, at which time seven new members shall be appointed, one by the Speaker of the House, one by the House Minority Leader, one by the Senate Majority Leader, one by the Senate Minority Leader, one by the President of the United States, one by the Chief Justice of the United States, and one by the oldest current Governor among all of the states. If any vacancies happen by the resignation or death of a member, or otherwise, that vacancy shall be filled by an appointment by the current holder of the office which originally appointed that member. The FEC shall be empowered to investigate all claims of voting irregularities, voter fraud, or voter suppression in federal elections, and to make judgements as to the acceptability of voting systems; they shall have subpoena power to help them carry out their investigations.
Section 15. The United States Congress and the state and district legislatures shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 1/13/2021 11:46:32 AM (No. 659369)
#2, please educate yourself on how the process works. What you fear is impossible if you understand what the process is. I looked at it, with this same fear, years ago and was satisfied that it was another great tool that our Founding Fathers had left for us.
Please look this up for yourself, but the point is that there are two ways to propose Constitutional Amendments. The only one we have used is to have Congress propose amendments. The alternative, not yet used, is for 2/3s of State Legislatures to call a convention to PROPOSE changes to the Constitution.
The convention can change NOTHING, only propose amendments.
The only really substantial change is that the convention could bypass Congress, basically if Congress refused to do what the states wanted in the way of starting the ball rolling on a Constitutional amendment. This is a more direct way to get an amendment started, but it still takes 3/4ths of the state legislatures to pass any proposed Constitutional Amendment and make it part of the Constitution, regardless of how it is proposed.
So, yes, it may be possible for "things to get out of control" at a constitutional convention......but they can only PROPOSE AMENDMENTS. Nothing that they do will go anywhere without 3/4 of the states legislatures (38 of them) voting to support any proposed change. 38 states is a pretty high bar, thankfully.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 1/13/2021 11:49:57 AM (No. 659372)
The Democrat/Marxists ignore the Constitution as it stands, now. Why does anyone think they would care if a few tweaks were made? At this point they would take over any such convention and change everything to suit themselves. In the Demokatzi Republic of Amerika, it no longer matters what the law says or what the people want.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 1/13/2021 12:30:08 PM (No. 659421)
No way do I ever want to see one of these conventions, not in the current climate of corruption, Soros money and evil Big Tech pulling all the strings. Not to mention China. I do however want to see limits on how many terms congress can serve, would love a 20 year limit on serving judges, and would like to see it made easier for corrupt, criminal members of congress and judges to be removed from their positions.
But if we let the foxes completely into the constitutional hen house, that would never happen, in fact the reverse would. They are that crooked. Why are these gullible writers even entertaining the notion that this bunch of crooks would not tamper with our constitution if they got the chance?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 1/13/2021 3:40:39 PM (No. 659677)
#18, think about your comments just a bit.
The current hysterical Congress could write ANY sort of Constitutional Amendment and likely get it passed. Damned near anything. And SO WHAT? Then the PROPOSED amendment has to pass muster in 3/4 of the state legislatures.
The ONLY difference in a Article V convention is that the STATES can propose an amendment that the corrupt folks in Congress would never propose. Let's go wild here with supposition and say that some Soros money manages to get a repeal of the 2nd Amendment proposed. Dangerous as hell, no doubt.
But do you think that 38 state legislatures will vote for that? If they don't it goes NOWHERE except to the dumpster of history. So, nothing to fear until the leftists control 3/4 of the state legislatures. I hope that is after I am in the ground for good.
Sad times for the coming generations.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Omen55 1/13/2021 11:23:57 PM (No. 660125)
If not, the meandering knuckleheads who planted their unwashed posteriors in the cushy seats of power for a few short minutes on January 6 will be remembered as Adderall-addled preschoolers compared to the next mob our “representatives” meet charging through Statuary Hall.
And that "mob" will be armed with the 2nd Amend.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Omen55 1/13/2021 11:48:42 PM (No. 660137)
The crazies will push states to COS as they strive to impose their tyranny.
That will be Irony.
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