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Posted By: Big Bopper, 11/8/2020 9:15:33 AM

Democracy is not necessarily the best, fairest or most effective form of government. Bear in mind that two and a half millennia ago in the first democracy, Socrates was sentenced to death by 500 Athenians. In our own representative democracy, we just had an important election. Here are some observations on the state of our democracy. Spoiler alert: It’s better than in Athens, then or now.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/8/2020 9:27:24 AM (No. 598708)
Please... Stop the "Oh but it's not that bad..." How many of you pitched a fit when you were young because a sibling cheated at a game and then expected you to let them get away with it? This ISN'T a game. Ad the consequences are deadly. Look at the hit-lists the Democrats are proposing. We should be making lists of our own. The information is out there. Though I wonder how many realize that the top of the list isn't Biden, Harris, or even Soros. You damn Democrats have made a mistake when you ignored the "don't tread on me" warning.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rand Al'Thor 11/8/2020 9:27:29 AM (No. 598709)
We don't live in a democracy. We live in a Representative Republic. Hence the electoral college.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/8/2020 9:28:03 AM (No. 598710)
Democracy, isn't democracy if one side cheats.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: John C 11/8/2020 9:35:27 AM (No. 598720)
FTA: most of the media and pollsters are both biased and incompetent. This is a very serious problem. If people don’t trust the media, and they don’t, for good reasons, where are they supposed to get the news?(Snip) assuming the current results hold after court challenges, Joe Biden will be a weak president because he’s a weak man. He’s incompetent, unprincipled, inane, slightly senile, spineless and pretty shady. ....
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Safari Man 11/8/2020 9:41:35 AM (No. 598725)
This is a PRE-mortem. Reports of Trump’s demise are greatly exaggerated.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 11/8/2020 9:41:38 AM (No. 598726)
This will be in evidence at the SC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxFA1RCuuBg Biden admits the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics and you guys did it for the Obama administration. Trumps great lawyers are quietly paddling under the waters. Alito's Order a day or so ago did not come from out of the blue.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: poliposter 11/8/2020 9:54:55 AM (No. 598751)
"From your lips to God's ears," #6.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: poliposter 11/8/2020 9:56:42 AM (No. 598755)
Apologies for the double post, but if they can do it for the Presidential race, they can certainly do it for the GA Senate runoff races. If we lose the Senate, we've lost everything.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Big Bopper 11/8/2020 10:01:30 AM (No. 598761)
Nos. 6 and 7: The president's lawyers aren't all that great, they're more politicians than lawyers. Notably missing is a truly great lawyer like Ted Olson who argued Bush v. Gore before the Supreme Court. As for the Ga. runoff, the Republicans will easily win both seats. Dems don't come out for runoffs because they're not really that engaged. NC has been called for the GOP, so the Senate will wind up safely GOP at 52-48. (Thank God)
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/8/2020 10:08:28 AM (No. 598766)
Glenn, for the umpteenth time, snap out of it. We are a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Big Bopper 11/8/2020 10:19:11 AM (No. 598778)
No. 10: Glenn is in pretty good company in referring to America as a "representative democracy." John Adams and Thomas Jefferson referred to America with that exact phrase. http://volokh.com/2010/04/09/more-on-the-republic-vs-democracy-debate/ If your point is that America is not a "pure democracy," fine. But "pure democracy" is not the phrase Glenn (or Adams or Jefferson) used.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bpl40 11/8/2020 10:27:53 AM (No. 598786)
My personal assessment at this point - Sunday Nov 8 AM. Chances of flipping to Trump Pennsylvania - 20 votes - 90% Wisconsin - 10 votes - 60% Nevada - 8 votes - 40 % Pennsylvania will be 100% if Justice Barrett sides with the Conservatives If the other don't come about, it ends up in the House. Where Republican delegation outnumber the Democrats.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 11/8/2020 10:30:17 AM (No. 598788)
For God's sake Glenn! Trump lost because of fraud, not because of his tweets or the first debate, or anything else. It is very, very bad that Biden has seemingly won. It's beyond comprehension! You can't soft pedal this. The fix was in, the same as in 2012--Obama didn't win that one honestly either. Let's all hope that Trump can get this reversed. Can you imagine the Obama holdovers running State (Rice), Justice (Eric Holder), HHS, Education, Treasury, EPA, etc.? My God, we are back to the dreary pre-Trump days. Think about it!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Italiano 11/8/2020 10:32:50 AM (No. 598790)
I didn't like Jimmy Carter, but he was my President. I really didn't like Bill Clinton, but he was my President. I loathed Barack Obama, but he was my President. Biden? No way. And Harris??? Hopefully, God will step in and take care of that.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: judy 11/8/2020 10:39:15 AM (No. 598795)
Oh come on, for 4 years these same people tortured Trump for no reason. Sorry but I don't heal that fast. The best President in history was & is crucified daily.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Kate318 11/8/2020 10:43:48 AM (No. 598799)
I dismiss any articles or posts that include Trump’s so-called “mistakes” as an excuse for what has happened. He asked for a red wave and we gave it to him, including his re-election. Anyone who gives credibility to anything other than vote fraud is complicit. The good news is that we who vote Republican will now be spared the stress, time and energy of elections, as there is no point if all this is allowed to stand.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: andyboy 11/8/2020 10:57:08 AM (No. 598816)
I don't see the "mortem" yet, Glenn. And the reason Trump is behind in votes is not his personaity -- it is massive, blatant fraud.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bogeegolf 11/8/2020 11:01:58 AM (No. 598820)
This is it. This is where we hold the line! I’ve seen way too much defeatism in the threads here this morning. I’m thankful to see others aren’t giving up though. Self governance demands that we fight this. At the very least send Trump an encouraging message let him know we are behind him and not just a bunch of knee buckling Congress critters Certainly , send money if you can. This is not over.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Luandir 11/8/2020 11:21:05 AM (No. 598839)
Should China Joe eventually be certified the winner, it will not be because of Trump's behavior. It will be because Democratic machines in multiple states colluded (yes, COLLUDED) to blatantly override the will of the people.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 11/8/2020 11:59:13 AM (No. 598874)
You're a dope and I'm never reading another one of your columns.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird 11/8/2020 12:51:25 PM (No. 598940)
Trying to reconcile #1 with the article and its writer, who voted twice for President Trump, supported him, and predicted he would win. ????
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bighambone 11/8/2020 12:56:27 PM (No. 598945)
The liberal Democrats are experts at election fraud as they have been involved in perpetrating election fraud, especially in the big cities run by liberal Democrat machines, for well over 100 years. Such election fraud could have been made obsolete many years ago by election anti-fraud reform laws and regulations passed by the legislatures of the individual States, especially where it has been rampant. The reason that has not been done is because election fraud has always benefited liberal Democrat politicians and their political machines. That can clearly be seen when Democrat judges issue rulings that it is OK to count ballots received after Election Day and that there is no need to verify the identities or signatures of voters. As long as Election fraud benefits the liberal Democrats they will oppose and will never support changing the election laws to stamp out such fraud. Even a moron could figure that out.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Luke21 11/8/2020 1:37:34 PM (No. 599010)
This is garbage. Stop reading and posting this stuff.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: RuckusTom 11/8/2020 5:28:11 PM (No. 599243)
Last I heard, we don't have a "democracy". We have a representative Republic.
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