Trump Comes Out On
Top (But Barely) In
First Presidential Debate
Red State,
by
Joe Cunningham
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
9/29/2020 11:02:41 PM
…I don’t know. Skeletor?
This is a hard one, folks. Time and again, this debate proved to me that this is a terrifying time to be alive. Two old men shouting at each other while a third old man tries to get them to stop shouting at each other? Watching this debate was a type of self-destructive behavior that I’ll be recovering from for a while, I think.
However, let’s briefly review who came out on top tonight. Winner: Trump (But Barely)
If we’re talking about a straight-up “did better than the other guy,” I think the winner is actually Trump. In terms of presentation, Trump didn’t stumble over his words near
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Omen55 9/29/2020 11:08:43 PM (No. 556977)
Biden kept lying about what Trump has said.
The lie about Nazis being good people & that Trump called our troops losers.
That BO had a great economy.
One lie after another by Biden.
When you have no facts.
Lie!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Catherine 9/29/2020 11:09:41 PM (No. 556978)
What I learned from this debate: Joe Bide is scary looking. His face looks like a mask or someone pulled all his facial skin back behind his head. He rambled now and then but like Rush said, he didn't fall asleep so the media will say he won.
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Whom ever advised President Trump to be the attack pitbull tonight should be fired. All the interruptions were annoying. The President should of let Bite Me hang himself and let him answer, and then make him look like the dimwit he is. Even arguing with Chris Wallace was uncalled for. I actually felt sorry for Wallace. The whole thing was frustrating to me, and I'm a huge Trump supporter. He is way too smart to act like he did tonight. He was everything that his detractors say about him. Sad.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Californian 9/29/2020 11:11:25 PM (No. 556982)
Joe won by virtue of not falling down or drifting off on stories about Corn Pop. The bar was pretty low.
Seriously, though, I think both put in a mediocre performance. Just lots of yelling back and forth calling each other liars. I was hoping Trump would call out Omar by name during the part about election fraud and ballot harvesting but that news was probably too fresh and unvetted and therefore risky.
Joe needs to stay vertical 2 more times.
Oh and Chris Wallace was terrible as expected. Very unprofessional by any measure.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
VAPMAN 9/29/2020 11:13:18 PM (No. 556983)
Points from this debate:
1) Trump is a fighter and won’t take lying to his face.
2) Wallace is a jackass
3) Biden looks scary.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rinktum 9/29/2020 11:13:55 PM (No. 556984)
The President must have better answers to the Antifa and BLM questions. He needs stats and facts and evidence. I was extremely disappointed in his answer on that subject. One thing I would suggest is to be more positive and tell Americans why life will be better with another Trump term. For me a debate like this was a disaster for both sides and most of all that snake, Chris Wallace. I did not expect fairness but I did expect that he would not do Joe Biden’s debating for him. Republicans are fools to agree to these debates without one conservative moderator. Why do Republicans fail at so basic an issue?? Do they even want to win? Sometimes, I doubt it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 9/29/2020 11:19:56 PM (No. 556987)
Barely? Ha. 47 months vs. 47 years is a great point to pound home.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 9/29/2020 11:21:40 PM (No. 556988)
Was it just me. Or did Wallace at the end keep calling Dementia Joe "O-Biden??" I swear I heard it several times.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Safari Man 9/29/2020 11:22:37 PM (No. 556989)
i didn’t realize how much I despised Joe Biden until that debate. Such a LIAR.
To be honest, nobody will be swayed by these debates. The only way they will make a difference is if Joe slips a digit and cannot function in front of everyone. That didn't happen tonight, so it was a nothing burger.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
jntsrgn 9/29/2020 11:23:26 PM (No. 556991)
I am a huge Trump supporter and will vote for him without hesitation.
However, this debate performance was embarrassing.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
EQKimball 9/29/2020 11:26:32 PM (No. 556994)
To the degree there were any “style points,” Biden got them all by smiling and being calm. Trump was as lovable as John McEnroe. Sorry, but as a passenger on this plane I am watching the ground rising up and am calling home to tell my wife I love her. Our pilot is scaring the you know what out if me.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Italiano 9/29/2020 11:26:57 PM (No. 556995)
A total dumpster fire. Wallace wanted to favor Biden, but Trump wouldn't let him. He is neither a politician nor a pussy, like recent previous Republican participants. Trump should have kept his mouth shut on more than one occasion and let Biden go incoherent and off the rails, but he's Trump. No way. He probably lost some idiot reach-across-the aisle moderates, but there aren't enough of them to matter. Big loser: Wallace. Good, but his colleagues will lionize him.
Trump: Killed it on the economy and law and order.
Biden: Lied through his teeth and will get away with it, like all Democrats, but he didn't pee himself or slobber, so his advisors and his wife, Lady MacBeth, are probably ecstatic. He had to stay quiet and defer to the nutcase leftist base, and that will cost him with Normals, a lot of whom are Democrats.
Biden: He's been a bully his entire political career, and Trump cut his balls off. No Paul Ryan this time.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
anniebc 9/29/2020 11:28:45 PM (No. 556997)
This was a terrible debate, and from what I was able to watch, I attribute most of the failure of it to Chris Wallace. He was too in love with his questions, he interrupted the President as much as he thought the President interrupted Biden, and he failed repeatedly to point out Biden's interruptions. There were certain things Biden said that were clearly not true, and Chris should have called out the blatant untruths by presenting facts. He knew the freaking questions he was going to ask, so he should have come with facts. But then, Chris has trouble with facts, doesn't he? Biden's looking into the camera was creepy as heck, and you could tell he thought he was talking directly to the American people. Bomb! And who knew, Biden was tasked with fixing the economy during the disgraceful eight years of hell we went through with him and obama? I'll bet Smidgen is steaming about that one. You can tell Biden had work done on his face and eyes. Maybe that's why he's been in hiding. I don't believe many minds were changed, but if Biden thinks, after 47 years of nothing, people believe he's capable of doing a smidgen of what President Trump has done, he is senile. Can anyone tell me what Biden's policies are after this debate? Right. . .
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Tusker 9/29/2020 11:29:00 PM (No. 556998)
These things are not “debates”, they are theatre, “rasseling” matches.
Trump beat Biden to a pulp. Trump destroyed Biden.
But, alas, it all means nothing, and it all means everything, as America burns and evil sheep skinned in Virtue continues to flourish with no end in site.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
watashiyo 9/29/2020 11:33:15 PM (No. 557002)
President Trump's #1 enemy is Trump.
President Trump's #2 enemy is Trump.
President Trump's #3 enemy is Trump.
Focus on 4 years of MAGA accomplishments and what 4 more years can do to KAG.
Allow Foaming Mouth Biden blabber mouth his way to self-destruction. Your constant talking over him is preventing that from happening.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
PostAway 9/29/2020 11:35:18 PM (No. 557003)
It appeared to me that Trump’s strategy was to come out swinging, throw Biden back on his heels and then grind away at him before felling him. Biden wasn’t exactly nimble but he was cogent and that alone was a victory for him. How could a man so obviously impaired pull that off? Was there deliberate deception on the part of the Biden campaign designed to lead to conclusions of diminished capacity in order to make a rather average man appear brighter going into the final stretch of the campaign? Is he on drugs? Was he being coached? What gives? In any case, he looked and sounded very old. The scariest part was Pres. Trump saying the election could take months to decide. I think Chris Wallace was trying to herd cats and was actually as good natured about it as anyone could be. Pres. Trump needs to settle down in the next debate or whatever it is and let Biden dig his own grave.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 9/29/2020 11:36:18 PM (No. 557005)
Bite Me appeared to be high as a kite. Did you look at his eyes, pupils wide open. His constant blinking was giving me a headache. There is something clearly wrong with the guy. Got to give his medical team credit for whatever gadget they used to keep the meds flowing into his system tonight. Although his brain seemed to seize up a number of times. He kept placing his hand under his right lapel as if to push meds into his skin.
Tonight was total chaos. Wallace became a third debater. Bite Me was intimidated by Trump's presence and quickness on his feet. But, I would like for the President to tone it down a little on the next debate, look at the camera more, and give us (or the undecided voters that is) something more to chew on as to why he is the best and only guy to move the country forward as the Constitutional Republic that we are supposed to be despite rampant corruption within the federal government.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
tangles 9/29/2020 11:38:29 PM (No. 557009)
Biden had too much "work" done on his slick face. Those new blue eyes are creepy and his scars are way too visible. He looked better in the mask.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
planetgeo 9/29/2020 11:40:05 PM (No. 557010)
I too am a huge supporter of President Trump and will absolutely vote for him, but let's be honest, he was terrible tonight. He pretty much played up all his worst qualities instead of highlighting his very impressive achievements and effectively countering all of Biden's and Wallace's misrepresentations.
Take Wallace's characterization of the federal training programs as "racial sensitivity training". I was literally screaming at the TV. "Critical Race Theory" is flat out racist and is workplace harassment and intimidation of white people, you fool! Racial sensitivity my patootie.
Same goes for Biden's non-answer on law and order. The real shame of Portland, Minneapolis, and Seattle isn't even the rioters, it's the Democrat mayors who openly allow and encourage it, and the Democrat DAs who release all the violent rioters as soon as they're arrested. The Democrat Party is openly supporting anarchy and insurrection! It's way worse than usual "law and order" issues.
Yes, we all value the fact Trump is a fighter. But he's got to do a better job next time on making the case for why and for what he's fighting.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
stablemoney 9/29/2020 11:41:48 PM (No. 557011)
Every word of any clarity by Biden was fed to him through his earpiece. Biden is a man of cliches, name calling, division, loud mouth, not rational argument.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Kate318 9/29/2020 11:49:29 PM (No. 557019)
Spare me the armchair quarterbacking. For what it was and who was involved, Trump did what he always does. He fought. How many times do some of you have to watch the man and still wish he were different to make you and the squishy independents feel better? Trump is not a debater. He wasn’t the first time around, and he isn’t now. And, correct me if I’m wrong but I believe it was Biden who called the President a liar, a clown and told him to shut up. Trump didn’t name call, but he was not going to let Biden or Wallace get away with anything. It’s not a gentlemen’s game, anymore.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
chumley 9/30/2020 12:21:42 AM (No. 557037)
Has anyone's mind been changed by these stupid things? I've seen better debate performances on the playground arguing about which baseball team is better. Biden never said a word of truth the whole time, and Trump just snarled and tried to break his leash. I was embarrassed for both, and for all of us. The stress of watching that fiasco was pretty intense.
Next time I may put my time to better use, like beating my hand with a hammer.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
cedar 9/30/2020 12:45:10 AM (No. 557048)
I’m with #21, Kate318.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Annie Xango 9/30/2020 1:31:50 AM (No. 557060)
thought the distinct difference in his eyes was fascinating..normally they are sort of slitty..too much plastic surgery..tonite the left one was bigger. actually they were both bigger..and the left one looked like it was all pupil....drugs???
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
emmajustin 9/30/2020 2:07:45 AM (No. 557062)
I wish Trump did not interrupt so much. BUT given all the lies from slow joe and the bias from Wallace, I understand why Trump did it. And it is hard to jot down a note for yourself to refer to when it is your turn to respond (as you are jotting something down you are not hearing the next lie so you miss something to respond to). I was surprised slow joe was coherent. I wish Wallace had been neutral.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 9/30/2020 6:02:39 AM (No. 557126)
So to all of you posting negative comments about President Trump, I have one question to ask. What if it was your character being assaulted?
I commented on a Lucianne article yesterday regarding President Trump's taxes. I am so annoyed that everything about him can be microscopically picked apart and Joe Biden gets free rein. Maybe if President Trump had a fair and balanced moderator, he wouldn't have had to defend himself. He could have been on the offensive and presented his plan. . .
All of the negatives coming from posters reminds me of the armchair quarterbacks. . .
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